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Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

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IFocus said:
Ok, OK Trump only ever tells the truth...........how much did he pay that pr0n star again..........sorry pr0n stars.........
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That's all you have got???

Where have I said Trump isn't a liar. I've specifically said he is a "shtbag of the highest order". That doesn't mean everyone else is of pure virtue. There has been a concentrated effort to knock him down in the polls after Trump start gaining traction the last week and a bit.


The fact you guys can only accept that Trump is the liar and everyone and everything against trump is the bastion of truth is a little scary. We have had 4 years of Democrat and media lies and you brush over the history in some kind of blind trance.


And what on earth do you guys put up?
Anon sources.
Witnesses that can't remember anything except some far fetched story that even people supposedly there shoot down.
Its been a four year gotchya moment that never came and none of you batted an eyelid.

Its like some kind of mental illness. At first it was amusing trolling through. Now its to stop one way traffic.
I hope he loses, so the sunshine and lollipops can come back out for you lot.
 

A potential plus point that may be building slightly for Donald Trump is that virtually all Americans know he is a liar. Some are now wondering why so many appear to be repeating a known fact and some now see it as a comedy act. He appears to be mocking those who seek to discuss this on and on at CNN, Fox, CNBC and other US TV channels. Florida is now closing as Trump catches up in latest polls on Saturday. Betting odds are improving for Donald Trump. https://www.ft.com/content/b3297609-e63b-4161-8287-7ab1179d0c40
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/
https://bookies.com/news/presidential-election-odds-daily-tracker
Moderators for upcoming presidential debates were announced Wednesday. All three debates will feature just one moderator, beginning with Fox News anchor Chris Wallace Sep. 29 in Cleveland.
The second debate, on Oct. 15, will be moderated by Steve Scully, the political editor at C-SPAN, who served as an alternate moderator for the 2016 debates.
Kristen Welker, a White House correspondent for NBC News and a co-anchor of the weekend “Today” program, will moderate the third debate on Oct. 22. This will be her first time moderating a general-election debate.
 
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'They capitulated to Trump': Michael Steele on the fight for the Republican party's soul

He was the first Black chairman of the GOP but he is campaigning for its defeat in November. Trump’s ‘collaborators’ will face a reckoning, he believes


Michael Steele, a top Black Republican, defies assumptions. He appears as a pundit on the liberal-leaning MSNBC network with a quotation from Ronald Reagan displayed on his office wall. He has been a member of the Grand Old Party for more than four decades, but is now openly and actively plotting its defeat in November.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...teele-donald-trump-republican-party-interview

‘Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter.’
Dr Martin Luther King ​
 
It is amazing how many Republicans are actively attacking him. The closer they were to him, the more they attack. Saw 2 stories today that didn't include yours Baz and I am not even actively looking.

So many sustained Republican attacks.
The GOP is fighting for the soul of their party.

This is going to be the most interesting election ever.

If its close it will be even more interesting as I would ecpect Trump will refuse to leave and will call, what will be, in effect, private militias but like everything else he won't properly lead them so it won't go very far Imagine though if one group took over a city?
 

At the moment, from what is happening in the streets with the rioting and looting, the likelyhood of a group taking over a city seems much more likely to be Democrat and media led, if Trump wins.
 

This story came out in Reuters a few days ago. It details a broader range of Independent and Republician identities who are actively campaigning against Trump .

Exclusive: Biden garners more Republican endorsements, this time from ex-governors
Tim Reid
4 Min Read

(Reuters) - Nearly 100 Republican and independent leaders will endorse Democrat Joe Biden for president on Thursday, including one-time 2020 Republican presidential candidate Bill Weld and the former Republican governors of Michigan and New Jersey, people involved in the effort told Reuters.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...nts-this-time-from-ex-governors-idUSKBN25U1AK
 

The people actually in the room have denied the story that Trump denigrated fallen soldiers.

To those who think he skipped it because of the weather. He went to a ceremony in Suresnes in the pouring rain the next day.

So looking like another bs story as everyone that was supposedly in the room seems to be denying.
 
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At the moment, from what is happening in the streets with the rioting and looting, the likelyhood of a group taking over a city seems much more likely to be Democrat and media led, if Trump wins.
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The rioting is about social issues to many to list, killing of unarmed black men (shooting people repeatedly in the back is a bad look) but realistically not due to political motivation, most of the rioters wont even vote Trumps knows this.

Unlike the white supremacists that US Federal agency's really fear!
 
It is a shame our vocal minority have to jump on the shirt tails of any issue that allows them to behave badly.
 
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Put a "h" at the start of link.
It automatically links post any other way I try and do it.
 
moXJO said:
We have had 4 years of Democrat and media lies and you brush over the history in some kind of blind trance.
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The Democrats aren't in power.

By all means people should point out when the Democrats are lying, but the guy with the power has to take responsibility for his actions.
 
Bob Woodward. Fear.

In 2018 Bob Woodward (who broke the Watergate scandal) was able to write a book on the Trump Presidency with hundreds of hours of interviews including Donald Trump and many administration officials.

The book details aides of Trump as they try to deal with Trump's behavior. According to the book, aides took papers off of his desk to prevent him from signing them. White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly referred to Trump as an "idiot" and "unhinged", while Secretary of Defense James Mattis said Trump has the understanding of "a fifth or sixth grader," and John M. Dowd, formerly Trump's personal lawyer, called him "a xucking liar" telling Trump he would wear an "orange jump suit" if he agreed to testify to Robert Mueller in the Special Counsel investigation.[14]

According to the book, Trump has called Jeff Sessions, his attorney general, "mentally retarded" and described him as a "dumb southerner".[15][16] Trump has denied ever using "these terms on anyone", although tape recordings from 2004 contradict this assertion.[16]

CNN's editor-at-large Chris Cillizza described Fear telling a similar story compared to mainstream media reporting and other 2018 books – journalist Michael Wolff's Fire and Fury and former Trump aide Omarosa Manigault Newman's Unhinged – that the Trump administration has a "chaotic, dysfunctional, ill-prepared White House" led by Trump, "a man hopelessly out of his depth in the job, but entirely incapable of understanding how desperately out of depth he actually is".[17]

Real power is, I don't even want to use the word, fear.[2] Donald Trump

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear:_Trump_in_the_White_House
 
So. Given how effectively Bob Woodward skewered Donald Trump in Fear. Why did Trump agree to another series of interviews for Bob's next book ?
He did indeed. It's called Rage and will be released next week. Meanwhile the best bits.

5 Takeaways From ‘Rage,’ Bob Woodward’s New Book About Trump
Mr. Woodward reveals that President Trump sought to play down the severity of the coronavirus and repeatedly denigrated the U.S. military.

Feb. 7 interview with the journalist Bob Woodward for his upcoming book, “Rage.” But it was a vastly different story than he was telling the public at the time. Mr. Trump would later admit to Mr. Woodward that publicly, he “wanted to always” play down the severity of the virus.

Mr. Woodward conducted 18 interviews with the president for the book, which goes on sale next week. Mr. Trump also granted Mr. Woodward access to top officials inside the White House, revealing the inner workings of the president and his administration.

Here are five takeaways.

Mr. Trump minimized the risks of the coronavirus to the American public early in the year.
Despite knowing that the virus was “deadly” and highly contagious, he often publicly said the opposite, insisting that the virus would go away quickly.

“I wanted to always play it down,” Mr. Trump told Mr. Woodward on March 19. “I still like playing it down, because I don’t want to create a panic.”

And while he was saying publicly that children were “almost immune” to the virus, he told Mr. Woodward in March: “Just today and yesterday, some startling facts came out. It’s not just old, older. Young people too — plenty of young people.”

In April, as he began to urge the country to reopen, Mr. Trump told Mr. Woodward of the virus, “It’s so easily transmissible, you wouldn’t even believe it.”
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I wonder the families of the 180,000 plus people who have already died from COVID 19 will feel about this revelation?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/09/us/politics/woodward-trump-rage-takeaways.html


 
basilio said:
“I wanted to always play it down,” Mr. Trump told Mr. Woodward on March 19. “I still like playing it down, because I don’t want to create a panic.”
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Maybe,that will be shown to have been very astute of him, at a later date.
If there is shown to be a residual component, that remains dormant until the immune system is compromised, then surfaces and causes major health issues for those previously infected.
We have mulled that issue since the outbreak began.
But lets just grab the headline.
Let's not think past the headline.
The headline is god.
Let's take the other route, if there is a residual component and it is suspected, then Trump says anyone who gets this, cops a death sentence, later in life. How would that work out.
 

Sorry, but there is a difference between not wanting to create panic and telling the public the truth so they can take proper precautions.

The virus got away in the US because people thought it was nothing to worry about and therefore didn't change their behaviour to avoid getting it or spreading it.

Another one of Trump's attempts to rewrite his history I'm afraid.
 
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