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Looks like a coup is unfolding in Venezuela.

VP Pence broadcast a speech encouraging freedom and democracy.

Heard that the crowds we're seeing aren't there for the opposition, they were out to commemorate the country's anniversary in overthrowing its previous dictators some 60 years ago. The opposition sure take advantage of that and make it appear (in the West) that it's a popular uprising.

Well done for stage craft.
 
I hope you don't base every decision you make on that ROI criteria. I hope you incorporate some moral, ethical and a social concience component into your decision making.
I vote for whichever party, I feel will provide an economic and social guidance, that aligns with my underlying belief's.
I leave the judging of those beliefs, to those who believe themselves to be paragons of virtue, as there are plenty who fall into that category.:xyxthumbs
 
I vote for whichever party, I feel will provide an economic and social guidance, that aligns with my underlying belief's.
I leave the judging of those beliefs, to those who believe themselves to be paragons of virtue, as there are plenty who fall into that category.:xyxthumbs

Does that mean your Jihad against anything not right wing is over?
 
Does that mean your Jihad against anything not right wing is over?
I would call it more a realist, putting forward an alternative view, to the emotional,tambourine playing wailers. :xyxthumbs
But hey, it takes all kinds, that is what makes life interesting.
 
Perhaps this is one of the reasons Trump isn't interested in getting the government working again. After all it is the FBI that is pulling together the case against him.

The Wheels of Justice Are Grinding to a Halt
FBI agents say the government shutdown is costing them confidential sources, postponing indictments, and shutting down investigations.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...s-say-operations-compromised-shutdown/581014/
 
When should we take bets on air line crashes around US airports because of the breakdown of air traffic controllers ?

Air traffic controllers' union issues dire safety warning over shutdown
‘We cannot even calculate the level of risk currently at play, nor predict the point at which the entire system will break,’ representatives write

Union leaders representing air traffic controllers, pilots and flight attendants issued an urgent warning on Wednesday that the month-long government shutdown was threatening the safety and security of the nation’s air travel system.

We cannot even calculate the level of risk currently at play, nor predict the point at which the entire system will break,” the union leaders wrote. “It is unprecedented.”

In the joint statement, the National Air Traffic Controllers Association president, Paul Rinaldi, the Air Line Pilots Association president, Joe DePete, and the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA president, Sara Nelson, described a “growing concern for the safety and security of our members, our airlines, and the traveling public due to the government shutdown”.

They said staffing at air traffic control facilities was at a “30-year low” as the rate of employee callouts continued to rise.
To compensate for the staffing shortages, the union leaders said controllers were working overtime, including 10-hour shifts, six days a week. ( That sounds so safe..:eek:)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/23/air-traffic-controllers-government-shutdown-warning
 
BIG NEWS..

- Donald Trump has agreed to reopen Government for three weeks - without a wall.
- Roger Stone his confidant has been arrested by the FBI on charges of colluding withe Russians.

Trump agrees to temporarily reopen government after America's longest shutdown – as it happened
Move comes as president faces intense scrutiny after the arrest of key ally Roger Stone in Mueller’s Russia inquiry

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...b024f0efeaea01#block-5c4b46fde4b024f0efeaea01
 
More details on Roger Stone's arrest.
Roger Stone says he won't testify against Trump after Mueller indictment
Stone allegedly made multiple attempts to contact WikiLeaks via intermediary about hacked Democratic emails
Jon Swaine in New York, Sabrina Siddiqui in Washington and Paul Owen

Sat 26 Jan 2019 03.37 AEDT First published on Fri 25 Jan 2019 22.27 AEDT

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Roger Stone says he will not 'bear false witness' against Donald Trump – video
Roger Stone, a longtime adviser to Donald Trump, has said he will not testify against the president after he was arrested by the FBI on Friday morning and indicted on seven criminal charges.

Stone, a veteran Republican operative, appeared in federal court in Fort Lauderdale charged by special counsel Robert Mueller with obstruction, lying to Congress and witness tampering. He was released on $250,000 bail and denies wrongdoing.

Mueller alleged in a long-anticipated indictment that Stone, 66, was asked by Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign to get inside information about emails that were stolen from Democrats by Russian government hackers and passed to WikiLeaks.

A senior campaign official “was directed” to tell Stone to find out what damaging information WikiLeaks had about Hillary Clinton even after it was reported that the material being published by the group came from Russia, the indictment said.

The allegations were the first to connect Trump’s campaign to the explosive release of the emails stolen by Russian operatives. Their release disrupted Clinton’s campaign and led the Democratic party’s chairwoman to resign.

US intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia’s interference was aimed at damaging Clinton’s campaign and helping Trump. Mueller is investigating whether any Trump associates coordinated with the Russian effort.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/25/roger-stone-trump-ally-arrested-on-seven-charges
 
A funny but more biting review of when Donald Trump met Vladimir Putin.
It certainly demonstrated Donald enormous resilience and rhino thick hide. Any normal person would have been shamed out of office...

You really have to wait for the diplomats response to the suggestion of a second meeting with Putin in the White House. Pure gold.
 
I really enjoyed SOTU speech.

I enjoyed laughing at the peurile, petulant display from the Dems even more. The Donald wins again.
 
An interview i read the other day of Pilger where he said some thing quite profound.

Some thing like the US elites hated Trump because he was the US unmasked
 
An interview i read the other day of Pilger where he said some thing quite profound.

Some thing like the US elites hated Trump because he was the US unmasked

This is the remark

"Donald Trump can also be described as just another (violent) American President. His distinction is that he is a caricature. Many in the U.S. elite loathe Trump not because of his personal behaviour but because of a far more profound embarrassment; he is America without the mask."
 
This is the remark

"Donald Trump can also be described as just another (violent) American President. His distinction is that he is a caricature. Many in the U.S. elite loathe Trump not because of his personal behaviour but because of a far more profound embarrassment; he is America without the mask."

That is pretty uncomfortable isn't it ? Unfortunately very close to the truth.
 
Illuminating to hear how The Don tried to heavy the FBI while it was investigating his links with Russia.

Every Day Is a New Low in Trump's White House
The president steps over bright ethical and moral lines wherever he encounters them. Everyone in America saw it when he fired my boss. But I saw it firsthand time and time again.

On Wednesday, May 10, 2017, my first full day on the job as acting director of the FBI, I sat down with senior staff involved in the Russia case—the investigation into alleged ties between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. As the meeting began, my secretary relayed a message that the White House was calling. The president himself was on the line. I had spoken with him the night before, in the Oval Office, when he told me he had fired James Comey.

A call like this was highly unusual. Presidents do not, typically, call FBI directors. There should be no direct contact between the president and the director, except for national-security purposes. The reason is simple. Investigations and prosecutions need to be pursued without a hint of suspicion that someone who wields power has put a thumb on the scale.

The Russia team was in my office. I took the call on an unclassified line. That was another strange thing—the president was calling on a phone that was not secure. The voice on the other end said, It’s Don Trump calling. I said, Hello, Mr. President, how are you? Apart from my surprise that he was calling at all, I was surprised that he referred to himself as “Don.”

The president said, I’m good. You know—boy, it’s incredible, it’s such a great thing, people are really happy about the fact that the director’s gone, and it’s just remarkable what people are saying. Have you seen that? Are you seeing that, too?

He went on: I received hundreds of messages from FBI people—how happy they are that I fired him. There are people saying things on the media, have you seen that? What’s it like there in the building?

This is what it was like: You could go to any floor and you would see small groups gathering in hallways, some people even crying. The overwhelming majority liked and admired Director Comey—his personal style, the integrity of his conduct. Now we were laboring under the same dank, gray shadow that had been creeping over Washington during the few months Donald Trump had been in office.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ew-mccabe-fbi-book-excerpt-the-threat/582748/
 
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