What is racism?

[bellenuit]

You mean the pagan winter solstice celebration from which most of the Christmas symbolism was derived.

To be honest there is nothing religious about the way most Aussies celebrate Christmas, its moved past that.

The bible actual speaks against cutting down a tree, bringing it into your home and decorating it with gold because what we now call a Christmas tree is a pagan tradition, Many other examples also.

The fact is celebrating at that time of year goes across many cultures, and if we didn't have something to celebrate, were would have to invent something.

the things tink mentioned eg family, happiness, children are not owned by Christians, they are very secular things worth celebrating, and you don't need to referenece middle eastern mythology to do it.

If you want to teach kids the real historical origin of each of the traditions I am fine with that, using it as an opportunity to preach to kids one religion is wrong.

I don't have time to look it up at the moment, but I believe the fat white bearded Santa in the red suit originally came from a Coca Cola ad.

 

[Value Collector]

I don't have time to look it up at the moment, but I believe the fat white bearded Santa in the red suit originally came from a Coca Cola ad.

True story.

 

[Value Collector]

True story.

Lol, and linking the discussion of Race + Religion and influence of Art, Some Christians have a have time coming to grips with the fact that Jesus (If he existed at all) was not white, He was Middle eastern.

 

[Tisme]

Islam messing with soldiers and social media minds:

http://www.shortlist.com/news/wounded-british-soldiers-muslim-message-goes-viral

 

[SirRumpole]

Lol, and linking the discussion of Race + Religion and influence of Art, Some Christians have a have time coming to grips with the fact that Jesus (If he existed at all) was not white, He was Middle eastern.

Would you call Jews "white" ?

Benjamin Netanyahu looks pretty white to me.

 

[Tisme]

Would you call Jews "white" ?

Benjamin Netanyahu looks pretty white to me.

There's Jews and then there's Jews. Jesus descended from David and all the way back to Adam and the almighty so he was a real Jewboy.

Then are the wannabe Jews, like the Paradesi and European (off whitey) Ashkenazi Jews who think they are white...especially when they play Irish characters in American shows But we all know what whitey really is don't we

 

[wayneL]

There's Jews and then there's Jews. Jesus descended from David and all the way back to Adam and the almighty so he was a real Jewboy.

Then are the wannabe Jews, like the Paradesi and European (off whitey) Ashkenazi Jews who think they are white...especially when they play Irish characters in American shows But we all know what whitey really is don't we

No, what is it?

 

[SirRumpole]

No, what is it?

They are the ones with the superior culture

 

[Value Collector]

Would you call Jews "white" ?

Benjamin Netanyahu looks pretty white to me.

We are talking about early Jews from the middle eastern tribes, they would have looked more Arab than white.

Jesus descended from David and all the way back to Adam and the almighty.

D

Cool story bro, needs more dragons.

(I do realise that the bible does actually contain dragons and unicorns)

 

[luutzu]

We are talking about early Jews from the middle eastern tribes, they would have looked more Arab than white.



Cool story bro, needs more dragons.

(I do realise that the bible does actually contain dragons and unicorns)

It does? Dragons and unicorns? No way.

Btw, just reminded me how in Vietnam, all the statues and drawings and book illustrations I saw of the old kings and emperors... all of them look just like Uncle Ho.


back to Jesus: One of them look like a terrorist.

 

[luutzu]

They are the ones with the superior culture

Sooo... Asians are White? haha

 

[luutzu]

There's Jews and then there's Jews. Jesus descended from David and all the way back to Adam and the almighty so he was a real Jewboy.

Then are the wannabe Jews, like the Paradesi and European (off whitey) Ashkenazi Jews who think they are white...especially when they play Irish characters in American shows But we all know what whitey really is don't we

I couldn't tell the difference between a Jew and an Arab. If you tell me the guy i Jewish, I'd believe you... if you say he's Arab, I would believe it too.

 

[luutzu]

Would you call Jews "white" ?

Benjamin Netanyahu looks pretty white to me.

Heard that in Israel, the White Jews considered themselves more superior to the Arab Jews. White tend to be from Russia or other part of Europe; the Arab Jews are still Jewish but been around the Arab states too long they're not as superior.

 

[SirRumpole]

Sooo... Asians are White? haha

So, what aspect of Asian culture do you consider superior (I know you were having a joke but I'm prepared to admit that there are some aspects of our secular Anglo culture that may be deficient).

 

[Value Collector]

It does? Dragons and unicorns? No way.

H]

Lol, yep dragons and unicorns, doesn't seem like a historical document when you get to those verses huh, lol

Look at this Christian try and jump through mental hoops to explain the fire breathing dragons, he try's to say what the meant were dinosaurs, his logic still means men walked with dinosaurs, but to get around that he claims the world isn't billions of years old, it's only 6000 - 10,000

[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4WiExWRLyuo[/video]

In other videos they claim the unicorns were actually meant to be rhinos, but rhinos have two horns, and are from Africa, not the Middle East, so their logic is agin flawed.

 

[Tisme]

No, what is it?

Ask Luutzu

 

[luutzu]

So, what aspect of Asian culture do you consider superior (I know you were having a joke but I'm prepared to admit that there are some aspects of our secular Anglo culture that may be deficient).

I know more about Western culture than Eastern so can't really say. I don't really know what is Western or Eastern culture or value to be honest. Beside the holidays and the food, they're all the same to me.. or at least one culture can't claim exclusivity to it.

But one thing, and this may be just a stereotype since I don't know White families, and don't really know any Asian family beside my own and the relatives... but maybe one aspect I think Asians are more preferable to me would be the Confucian aspect of respecting your elders.

But then too much of that isn't good either. We can't listen and follow orders just because the parents want it that way... but then I don't like kids who treat their parents as though they're equal and so talk back etc. But that's probably true across all cultures.

 

[luutzu]

Lol, yep dragons and unicorns, doesn't seem like a historical document when you get to those verses huh, lol

Look at this Christian try and jump through mental hoops to explain the fire breathing dragons, he try's to say what the meant were dinosaurs, his logic still means men walked with dinosaurs, but to get around that he claims the world isn't billions of years old, it's only 6000 - 10,000

[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4WiExWRLyuo[/video]

In other videos they claim the unicorns were actually meant to be rhinos, but rhinos have two horns, and are from Africa, not the Middle East, so their logic is agin flawed.

Yea, it'd be a fairytale when it contain dragons and unicorns.

Actually, I haven't seen a kids' book that contain both dragon and unicorn - that'd be a bit too unbelievable, haha

 

[luutzu]

Ask Luutzu

nice try McGregor.

 

[wayneL]

Is there any evidence exactly what colour the ancient Israelites were?