What do Aussies believe re: Evolution?

[son of baglimit]

Re: What do Aussies believe re Evolution?

now what would the great pumpkin think ? (linus is crying)

 

[wayneL]

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Natural selection nothing absurd about it, happens all the time, it happening as we speak. Example of this can be seen in species with short life spans , where the creature with the favourable mutation lives and breeds ,the others die and become extinct. Evolution my friends.
Again this may all be an illusion but the evidence is strong that this is what happened on a large long term scale.
To call a theory with a strong body of evidence absurd is absurd. I not saying you shouldn't keep your minds open to other possibilities , I just saying to totally ignore something with such strong evidence is silly. But some people still think the earth is flat despite all the evidence to contrary.

You're not building a straw man here are you?

 

[Pat]

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Man will create something to explain that which he cannot.

I often wonder why. I suppose it it a source of power, manipulation etc. Why not worship the hand that feeds you? Keep it simple Simon LOL...
I just voted, thanks Joe.

 

[spooly74]

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Hi Wayne,
Just curious, you seem to agree the life has evolved over a period of time here on Earth.
Is the "all by chance" you have a problem with to do with the origin of life?

 

[Pat]

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Yeah, if I had to pigeonhole myself Pat, that's about where I'd be too.

And if you let yourself be free to fly? Where are you now? (in a nutshell ???)

And another point regarding the bible, religon etc. Perhaps the "spiritral leaders" teach as if the bible was/is an accurate account.

 

[2020hindsight]

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Wow! I'm one of them, according to the dictionary??? A single word describes my belief..... Anyone else out there like me? LOL

lol - well Pat you can blame Dukey - he's the one who first mentioned it here (to my knowledge). Then again, everyone knows he’s off on some oriental adventure – forget about sniffing the roses – he’s into much stronger stuff than that lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=65397&highlight=pantheism#post65397

 

[2020hindsight]

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couple of contradictory quotes

actually controversial - and arguably provocative, lol -
AND my GUESS is that Wayne will like the first one, lol

"When all men think alike, no one thinks very much" ....... Walter Lippmann

BUT I PERSONALLY PREFER THIS ONE ... i.e. I personally think that thinking about such things as "whether evolution is a fact" is a thing of the past , and the concept of evolution is arguably "fait accompli" viz:-

"Civilisation advances by extending the number of important operations which we perform without thinking " ..... Alfred Whitehead

PS I just posted a poem on the poetry thread.
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=201073&highlight=cincinnatti#post201073

 

[2020hindsight]

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coupla quotes - just for fun (dont blame me blame that Wilde Twain pair)

"Man - a creature made at the end of a week , when God was tired" ..... Mark Twain

"I sometimes think that God, in creating Man, somewhat overestimated his ability" ... Oscar Wilde

 

[2020hindsight]

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I think it was 123billion billion billion stars btw. = 123 trillion trillion (elsewhere given as "about 100 x 10^18") - !!

apologies
123 x 10^18 was correct
but this is 123 million million million ( not what I said back there )
the words are wrong, the number isn't
- what's a few zeros between friends. lol.

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970115.html
sheesh NASA say its 1,000 million million million = 10^21
(going up)
in any event it's "heaps"
and it's also pretty approximate etc

 

[wayneL]

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And if you let yourself be free to fly? Where are you now? (in a nutshell ???)

Interesting wording Pat. I guess my involvement in these threads is to bowl a few googlies and hopefully promote some radical thought... to be free to fly, so to speak.

As to where I am... well that's something that is consistently "evolving" Where I am now, I hope not to be next year, if that makes any sense.

 

[spooly74]

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Another theory for evolution.

Basically, meteorites containing organic carbon fertilized the Earth ...

 

[Lert]

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On a lighter note, the funniest cartoon I've seen was was done by Larsen 10 or so years ago titled 'God making snakes'. God was at the workbench with a heap of clay and was rolling out snakes and then hanging them up to dry.. God's voice balloon said "these are a cinch". Whenever I think about it I just crack up

 

[2020hindsight]

Re: What do Aussies believe re Evolution?

Another theory for evolution.
Basically, meteorites containing organic carbon fertilized the Earth

spooly what a brilliant youtube ( in fact set of youtubes)
thanks man
here's the "family" ( as you must already know)
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=evolution+vs.+creationism

and , lert, lol - no need to post that cartoon - perfectly painted in the imagination lol.
Isn't the human mind bludy great lol .

 

[So_Cynical]

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Another theory for evolution.
Basically, meteorites containing organic carbon fertilized the Earth ...

Nice vid and a twist on my theory of preference...cosmic bacteria.

 

[Wysiwyg]

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The human cerebral cortex has grown rapidly over the last million years. With it, we've learned to use tools, industrialised, and built nuclear weapons. But the older, primitive parts of our brain are still there—fuelling our emotions, our fears, our greed, our impulse to destroy our neighbours.

What separates us most from other creatures on the planet is the size of our brain. One hundred billion nerve cells, packed into 1400 cubic centimetres - bigger than any other species. Thanks to it, we're the dominant species on the planet—forget the huge jaws and the sharp spines running down the back, who needs them?

It's been a long time in the making though. About a billion years ago, brains were pretty basic—just groups of specialised cells with the ability to transmit electrical signals to move other groups of cells—primitive limbs. The idea was, in an environment where an organism needed to get away in a hurry from another on the lookout for a snack, mobility was a good idea.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/features/surviveourbrain/

Humans have the greatest ratio of brain to body mass of any animal.

 

[2020hindsight]

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Humans have the greatest ratio of brain to body mass of any animal.

gday wys
and certainly the greatest ratio of unused brain to used body mass

 

[Wysiwyg]

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G`morning 2020........Professor Colin Groves on current models , DNA and dogs.

Q1: The is a current theory that all modern humans evolved from a small group in Southern Africa. What is the evidence for this and how convincing is it?
Submitted by Dennis Murray

A:The current model is that modern humans evolved from a small group in sub-saharan Africa. The group had to be reasonably small because there is strong DNA evidence to suggest that the common ancestor in the female line goes back to only 200,000 years ago. You would expect it to be much longer ago if the group was large. There is strong DNA evidence to support this, as DNA of all kinds, not just mitochondrial, is much more diverse in Africa. Basically, modern humans are a subset of Africans.

The group that gave rise to us possibly lived in North East Africa (Ethiopia or Kenya) and just spread out. This group had some sort of advantage over the other groups and species alive at the time - maybe they discovered a new tool type or formed a symbiotic relationship with the ancestor of the dog (dogs keep you warmer, look after kids, have an alarm bark, and possibly help with hunting). This meant they could out-compete the other groups as they spread out.

- Prof Colin Groves, School of Archaeology and Anthropology, Australian National University

 

[2020hindsight]

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G`morning 2020........Professor Colin Groves on current models , DNA and dogs.

maybe they ..... formed a symbiotic relationship with the ancestor of the dog

love it lol
sounds like the dyslexic agnostic insomniac (sheesh - typos !!Lol) was onto something after all - and all this time I thought it was a joke

sounds like "Dog made man" ?

 

[Lucky]

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Dinosaurs???

 

[rub92me]

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Ultimately, the theory of evolution argues for none other than spontaneous generation. I argue that that is absurd.

Uhm, talking about a strawman.