"What we really need is for the governments of Australia and New Zealand to step up and start enforcing maritime laws in these waters or who knows what the whalers will do next."
My bolding.
Funny that in these waters, neither government mentioned above have any legal jurisdiction whatsoever; ergo they cannot possibly enforce any maritime laws without causing legal issues themselves.
Of course, the sensationalist that the Pirate Captain Paul Watson is, knows this and uses it simply to stir up emotional & irrational argument from those who dont know it.
Ato there is nothing irrational arguing that Japanese Government whaling is not research. Their propaganda that it is makes that argument irrational.
The Japanese Government signed up to an international agreement that they flaunt directly. That is irrational.
Focus, I think you're missing the point. That the japanese are using a loophole to do their whaling has never been in question.
What is in question though is australia's claim to these waters. 98% of the world does not recognise these claims. Indeed there are many australian legal scholars that debate our own claims and state we have no legal case. That is one of the main reasons we have not brought anything up in a legal case.
Also what is in question is just how close these animals are to extinction. The majority of the whales that are hunted and killed for consumption are no where near extinction. Mink whales are the rabbits of the sea.
This guy is an attention seeking ***** who has no problem setting up misquided people and putting them in harms way, yet never have we heard a headline where he was the one sitting on a ships bow in front of a japanese vessel coming their way. Why...because he's a coward.
I have all the respect in the world for a person who believes in a cause. But only when the do it in a legal and harmless way. And there are many ways he can move his cause forward without acting like a coward. Violence is not the solution here.
Focus, I think you're missing the point. That the japanese are using a loophole to do their whaling has never been in question.
What is in question though is australia's claim to these waters. 98% of the world does not recognise these claims. Indeed there are many australian legal scholars that debate our own claims and state we have no legal case. That is one of the main reasons we have not brought anything up in a legal case.
Also what is in question is just how close these animals are to extinction. The majority of the whales that are hunted and killed for consumption are no where near extinction. Mink whales are the rabbits of the sea.
This guy is an attention seeking ***** who has no problem setting up misquided people and putting them in harms way, yet never have we heard a headline where he was the one sitting on a ships bow in front of a japanese vessel coming their way. Why...because he's a coward.
I have all the respect in the world for a person who believes in a cause. But only when the do it in a legal and harmless way. And there are many ways he can move his cause forward without acting like a coward. Violence is not the solution here.
Killing of a whale goes no where even close to the efficiency I described above, its a long drawn out process of killing by brutalization of a highly intelligent mammal. To me gut retching same as if I failed to put an animal down quickly,
yeah sorry, but still just a glorified fish. When they learn to multi-task, invent things and make my world easier and more fun to live in, then I may be impressed.of a highly intelligent mammal.
give the Japanese a inch they take a light year.
yeah sorry, but still just a glorified fish. When they learn to multi-task, invent things and make my world easier and more fun to live in, then I may be impressed.
You make considerable sense Gordon./QUOTE]
Yes, this is what happens when I don't drink for a month. This phenomenon is caused by febfast.
You make considerable sense Gordon./QUOTE]
Yes, this is what happens when I don't drink for a month. This phenomenon is caused by febfast.
lol
Start a religion mate, I'll be your Deacon. We'd be bound to make a quid. Febfast has a ring to it.
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It is all a fad this whale bothering.
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yeah sorry, but still just a glorified fish. When they learn to multi-task, invent things and make my world easier and more fun to live in, then I may be impressed.
Too general of a statement.
To me it just sounds as though you're anti japanese full stop.
???????????????????????? Dont think you really know what you are talking about. You have been watching too many selected pictures. I could put togrther just as many "bad" results on farm kills. Have you actually been there?
I am sure you could nioka but stick to the facts on how a whale dies when shot with the explosive harpoon.
This makes our discuss pointless................thanks for the trivialization I thought you had something serious to say..............
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So given that rationalisation, I should not have taken any of your points serious after writing that the anti whalers can do anything they want because they wear a white hat, as opposed to a black hat that the japanese wear?
double standards?
This makes our discuss pointless................thanks for the trivialization I thought you had something serious to say..............
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So given that rationalisation, I should not have taken any of your points serious after writing that the anti whalers can do anything they want because they wear a white hat, as opposed to a black hat that the japanese wear?
double standards?
Good point
The bomb on the end of the harpoon explodes on a time fuse set to ge off as the harpoon is lodged within the whale. This, in almost all cases, causes instant death. As with most things killed there are "death throes" (chop off a chickens head and it is dead but it will still thrash around).
If by any chance the whale is not instantly killed then another bomb is fired immediately. The second one is on a wooden dummy harpoon but the bomb is no dummy. They contain more explosive than half a dozen grenades.
Mountain gorillas are not stable enough to be harvested sustainably.
Reminds me of an old Playboy mag cartoon where a crayfish is dropping humans into a boiling pot of water.
Caption read "Its OK the loud shrieks are just air escaping from the lungs.”
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