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na they're noisy's. indian mynas are bigger and darker.
when researching how to get rid of them (so other natives would feel welcome), i read they were vegetarian. but no, they eat everything.

toms look good rastan, nice work.

i put seasol liquid fertilizer on yesty. am interested to see how they go.

anyone have a fav commercial fertilizer? i usually just use chook/cow poo and compost.
 
nioka said:
Don't confuse the Indian mynas with the native Noisy Myna although the native one can be a bit of a pest. They bully other birds and where you find them in numbers you rarely see finches, willy wag tails etc. The only difference is that it is legal to destroy the import but not the native one.
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Just a really pedantic point (sorry :eek: ). The feral bird is an Indian Mynah, whereas the native bird is a Noisy Miner.

Here is the Noisy Miner, be amused by these;

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Here is the Indian Mynah, eradicate these:

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INORE said:
do you think the australian native people feel this way about the imigrants into australia.....destroy them whenever possible???
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lol i think humans are a tad more important than a feral pest. But please i dont wanna get started on the "animals are just as important as us topic".


Thanks for the update guys i was only aware of the indian mynas as thats all i get at my place. Well the native ones always are welcome at my place but the ferals are only welcomed to my air rifle. :)
 
arminius said:
na they're noisy's. indian mynas are bigger and anyone have a fav commercial fertilizer? i usually just use chook/cow poo and compost.
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I hear blood and bone works really well (doesnt smell either). Family friends use it all the time.
 
Those noisy mynas, my wife calls em clowns are the only birds we let swim in the pool. They become entertainment at times.

Surprised nobody has mentioned snow peas and blue lake beans.
I grow tomatoes, zuccini (luv stuffed zuccini's), snowpeas, beans, long mild chillis, parsley coriandar, chives & basil. Only seeds I buy are zuccini seeds,
a few plants are left for seed production as mentioned by jessica rabbit.

Been at it 40 odd years, and the garage spout thrust into a wheely bin overcomes the Melbourne water shortage with an overflow into the pool.

I never spray or buy fertiliser. Just good old cow manure and worm manure, casting, I believe they are called.

A net search handles any queries I ever had

austek
 
nioka said:
Don't confuse the Indian mynas with the native Noisy Myna although the native one can be a bit of a pest. They bully other birds and where you find them in numbers you rarely see finches, willy wag tails etc. The only difference is that it is legal to destroy the import but not the native one.
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Um is that a asian myna bird? I don't think australia has any native myna birds. All are introduced!!
 
Ageo said:
I hear blood and bone works really well (doesnt smell either). Family friends use it all the time.
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You've found blood and bone that doesn't smell? Love to know the brand.
Any I've used stinks for several days. Also causes the dog to become delirious with desire to munch into it.
 
Julia said:
You've found blood and bone that doesn't smell? Love to know the brand.
Any I've used stinks for several days. Also causes the dog to become delirious with desire to munch into it.
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lol ill ask my family friends which 1 they use (as they use it always, and say it doesnt smell).
 
Great thread folks!! - I never imagined so many ASFers would be vege gardeners! Made me feel good after a string of bad news to image you all munching on your home grown veges. :)There nothin better... well almost nothin.;)

- Unfortunately I'm not in a position have a patch at the mo... such is the life of the itinerant


Heres one for those people with bug problems - there are a number of organic sprays you can make yourself. Neem is one - though i havn't tried it.
Another is tobacco spray... I've tried it with some success especially for soft bugs like caterpillar infestations etc.
- Sorry Julia - probably won't help with your FIFO bugs like grasshoppers - you'll kill a few - but more will arrive to replace them.
The recipe here calls for 1 cup of tobacco (butts OK i think but more stinky!) and 1 gallon of water.
- I'd use warm water and add a little simple dishwashing detergent or soap. -

> Its basically a 'contact' spray I think and it breaks down quickly -> meaning you have to spray it on the bugs - you probably won't kill any/many from them eating it on the leaves or fruit. The soap will help the spray water get good 'contact' with the bugs rather than beading off.

Wouldn't recommend it if you have nice bugs you want to keep as it will probably get em all.
and of course it's toxic.... >>> wear gloves, don't mix it with your hand, don't breath it.

... of course if you're a smoker then.....??:rolleyes:

The other biggie for Oz soils is Organic matter - we generally need to put in a fair bit of work to raise the OM content. so MULCH MULCH MULCH!!!
Your vege patches will get better as the years pass and the OM content increases.

go for it ASF gardeners - I'll join you as soon as I have a plot...
 
Dukey said:
Great thread folks!! - I never imagined so many ASFers would be vege gardeners! Made me feel good after a string of bad news to image you all munching on your home grown veges. :)There nothin better... well almost nothin.;)

- Unfortunately I'm not in a position have a patch at the mo... such is the life of the itinerant


Heres one for those people with bug problems - there are a number of organic sprays you can make yourself. Neem is one - though i havn't tried it.
Another is tobacco spray... I've tried it with some success especially for soft bugs like caterpillar infestations etc.
- Sorry Julia - probably won't help with your FIFO bugs like grasshoppers - you'll kill a few - but more will arrive to replace them.
The recipe here calls for 1 cup of tobacco (butts OK i think but more stinky!) and 1 gallon of water.
- I'd use warm water and add a little simple dishwashing detergent or soap. -

> Its basically a 'contact' spray I think and it breaks down quickly -> meaning you have to spray it on the bugs - you probably won't kill any/many from them eating it on the leaves or fruit. The soap will help the spray water get good 'contact' with the bugs rather than beading off.

Wouldn't recommend it if you have nice bugs you want to keep as it will probably get em all.
and of course it's toxic.... >>> wear gloves, don't mix it with your hand, don't breath it.

... of course if you're a smoker then.....??:rolleyes:

The other biggie for Oz soils is Organic matter - we generally need to put in a fair bit of work to raise the OM content. so MULCH MULCH MULCH!!!
Your vege patches will get better as the years pass and the OM content increases.

go for it ASF gardeners - I'll join you as soon as I have a plot...
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In the meantime, Dukey, have you considered some pots? Or even just a few of those polystyrene boxes in which lettuces etc are packed for supermarkets? Toss some good quality potting mix plus some mushroom compost and blood and bone and you could grow a few vegies, herbs etc.
 
Julia said:
In the meantime, Dukey, have you considered some pots? Or even just a few of those polystyrene boxes in which lettuces etc are packed for supermarkets? Toss some good quality potting mix plus some mushroom compost and blood and bone and you could grow a few vegies, herbs etc.
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Nice idea pots. But I'm just moving about too much at the moment Julia.
Moved back from Japan 2 months ago; Travelling in WA a month ago; in NQ with the oldies now; heading to the Sunny coast next week. Hoping to find work and home - & a vege patch - there somewhere!!!!!!!!!!
Can't wait to just STOP moving!!!!!
 
Julia said:
I notice that most of the comments are from the southern states.
We grew wonderful vegetables (and flowers) in New Zealand, but since moving to Qld I've found it's a real struggle. Prepared the ground as others have described, put in the seedlings,and they grow quite well until they are about half mature. Then all the bugs and diseases discover them and have a **** field day. I've even relinquished my ideals of growing organically and used poisons but it makes little difference. I can grow herbs and tomatoes but have given up on other vegetables. Such a shame.
Two things could drive me back to NZ: the plentiful water supply and the wonderful gardening.

Great to hear of others' success.
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Do you need a lift to the Airport :)
 
austek said:
Surprised nobody has mentioned snow peas
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Howdy austek,

Grew them for the first time last year, absolutely delicious (raw in salads, they were too good to cook) until the heat killed them fairly quickly in December. Do you cover the plants are all with any mesh or are they just out in the open sun?
 
Julia,

Try purple king climbing beans. The like hot weather, grow fast, bear heavily and last for a long period providing you pick the beans at least every second day. There are some lettuce types also like hot weather plus cucumbers, melons etc.
 
nioka said:
Julia,

Try purple king climbing beans. The like hot weather, grow fast, bear heavily and last for a long period providing you pick the beans at least every second day. There are some lettuce types also like hot weather plus cucumbers, melons etc.
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Thanks for that suggestion Nioka. I've tried the Scarlet Runners which I used to grow with such success in NZ but haven't tried the Purple King.
Yep, have had some success with soft leaved lettuces, but any of the cucurbits succumb to powdery mildew before producing any decent fruit.
 
Mofra said:
Howdy austek,

Grew them for the first time last year, absolutely delicious (raw in salads, they were too good to cook) until the heat killed them fairly quickly in December. Do you cover the plants are all with any mesh or are they just out in the open sun?
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Mof I have a wooden set up like soccer goal posts, 2 round posts 7 foot high
each end and a piece of 6X1 inch across the top in open sun. The top board has 3mm holes drilled 4inches apart. That is 24 holes. I hang down good quality sash type cord from the holes.
Snow peas go in around March thruought winter, they don't like heat or wind. Then tomatoes go in spring end Sept, and run up the same strings.

It's all about seasons. Seed suppliers never get the season right on packets.
Sell more seeds that way.

The goal post idea is a lot smarter than tomatoe stakes and tidier. Professional hydroponic growers do it that way. You can use specially made clips to attach climbers to string or just wind them up the string as I do.

Never water the leaves they get some sort of white mould mildew. Tomato leaves are probably best left fry as well


austek
 
Julia said:
the cucurbits succumb to powdery mildew before producing any decent fruit.
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In summer I grow them on a trellis. The sun and air will keep the mildew down.

I did read onemore as meaning you to fly south. ?????????? Aussies usually only hate kiwis when it is associated with sport. Although I was once told in a NZ bar that I was an akubra hatted, pelaco shirted, stanima trousered bas****.
 
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