Useless Labor Party

[noco]

http://www.businessspectator.com.au...urces-and-energy/energy-watchdog-feeling-heat





NSW Liberals getting chummy with Unions. What do you think of that Noco? So far the Folley opposition seems to be looking at the cost savings for households as outweighing potential job losses. NSW Labor not doing as the Unions say. Goes against everything you say about Labor eh.

The unions have got Palszczuk by the short and curlies, that is for sure.....Palazczuk is their puppet on a string...When the unions say to her 'JUMP', SHE SAYS HOW HIGH SIR.

LNP - Liberal National Party
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Labor's laws before parliament mean the private details of Government employees will be provided to union bosses without their knowledge or consent.

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This is what is happening in Queensland.

 

[sydboy007]

The unions have got Palszczuk by the short and curlies, that is for sure.....Palazczuk is their puppet on a string...When the unions say to her 'JUMP', SHE SAYS HOW HIGH SIR.

LNP - Liberal National Party
35 mins ·

Labor's laws before parliament mean the private details of Government employees will be provided to union bosses without their knowledge or consent.

protectyourprivacy.com.au
LNP - Liberal National Party's photo.

This is what is happening in Queensland.

I see you avoid the NSW Liberals siding with unions to try and force electricity users to pay higher prices.

I'm pretty sure if it was a NSW LAbor Govt doing this you'd have ye ol righteous indignation, burning brighter than your incense over rego costs. But when it's a Liberal Govt, it's all good. Not a peep of criticism.

You know vairous Govt agencies will have access to your metadata without a warrant and without your knowledge, with a cost adding up to hundreds of millions of dollars a year. Brought to you by Federal Liberals.

 

[noco]

I see you avoid the NSW Liberals siding with unions to try and force electricity users to pay higher prices.

I'm pretty sure if it was a NSW LAbor Govt doing this you'd have ye ol righteous indignation, burning brighter than your incense over rego costs. But when it's a Liberal Govt, it's all good. Not a peep of criticism.

You know vairous Govt agencies will have access to your metadata without a warrant and without your knowledge, with a cost adding up to hundreds of millions of dollars a year. Brought to you by Federal Liberals.

I don't hear you condemning the CFMEU for taking control of the Plaszczuk Labor socialist government......Labor stands for higher taxes and bigger spending..

 

[sydboy007]

I don't hear you condemning the CFMEU for taking control of the Plaszczuk Labor socialist government......Labor stands for higher taxes and bigger spending..

If you had any understanding of the latest Federal budget you'd know the Abbott Govt stands for high spending and higher taxes.

Lets hope Plaszczuk teams up with the unions to push up your electricity prices. I'm sure you'll be as happy for her as you are for Baird.

 

[SirRumpole]

If you had any understanding of the latest Federal budget you'd know the Abbott Govt stands for high spending and higher taxes.

Lets hope Plaszczuk teams up with the unions to push up your electricity prices. I'm sure you'll be as happy for her as you are for Baird.

You're wasting your time with that bloke Syd.

 

[noco]

I see you avoid the NSW Liberals siding with unions to try and force electricity users to pay higher prices.

I'm pretty sure if it was a NSW LAbor Govt doing this you'd have ye ol righteous indignation, burning brighter than your incense over rego costs. But when it's a Liberal Govt, it's all good. Not a peep of criticism.

You know vairous Govt agencies will have access to your metadata without a warrant and without your knowledge, with a cost adding up to hundreds of millions of dollars a year. Brought to you by Federal Liberals.

In comparison to the unions having access to personal data as opposed to the government with metadata, I know who I would trust and it certainly would not be the communist dominated CFMEU.

The meatdata will and should only be used for radical Muslims and criminals.

 

[noco]

Keep dancing around the question Noco.

NSW Liberals are fighting the AER to stop rather large price drops from July. QLD Labor is allowing more modest price falls from July. Do you think QLD Labor is treating voters better than the NSW Liberals?

My electricity bill has been the highest it has, and every year I pretty much say the same thing, even though my usage doesn't increase. The technical term is inflation

Just for interest sake, how is it the responsibility of the Greens and Labor that your electricity bill is so high? No carbon tax anymore? Could it be that some of the $45B in gold plating of the network has left us with an uncompetitive energy sector?

My bill is higher because Ergon Energy has been forced by the Palaszczuk government to reduce their credit of solar input into the grid.

 

[noco]

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/premi...g-electricity-price-cuts-20150526-gh9m2a.html







http://www.afr.com/news/politics/aer-decision-to-hit-qlds-bottom-line-20150430-1mwmsx







So there's your proof. As you can see the Liberals are out to ensure NSW energy users suffer from an electricity tax to pump the sale value of the electricity assets. They're following the Howard way of assets price pumping. At least QLD Labor are accepting the overspend from the last 5 years and not trying to slug users with even higher charges.

Well,well,well.....that information came from the mouth of Luke Foley, the leader of the Labor socialist left wing party closing allied with the unions.

According to Martin Ferguson, a minister in the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd, Foley lied during the election campaign and he would not hesitate to lie again...I consider him to be a most unreliable source.

Premier Mike Baird should back down and stop fighting electricity price cuts

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May 26, 2015

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Premier Mike Baird made privatisation of NSW electricity assets a defining policy.

Premier Mike Baird made privatisation of NSW electricity assets a defining policy. Photo: Peter Rae

Politics can contort otherwise sane men and women into some very strange positions. But none stranger than the knot Mike Baird has tied himself in thanks to a conflict entirely of his own creation.

We now have a situation in which the Premier of NSW is taking legal action to prevent the state's households from saving up to $313 on their power bills.

The man elected to run this state has begun time-consuming, expensive proceedings to block small businesses from saving up to $528 on their energy costs.
Opposition Leader Luke Foley.

Opposition Leader Luke Foley. Photo: Louise Kennerley

 

[IFocus]

The meatdata will and should only be used for radical Muslims and criminals.

You and others with the same lack of understanding and naive trust of governments (you do realise those commos will one day be in power with the same powers)don't seem to get this is actually the least of our problems and the collection of metadata has and will catch no one.

 

[SirRumpole]

Well,well,well.....that information came from the mouth of Luke Foley, the leader of the Labor socialist left wing party closing allied with the unions.

I hardly think that's worse than a bunch of Right Wing facists closely allied with big business and greedy rent seekers a la Gina Reinhart.

 

[sptrawler]

If you had any understanding of the latest Federal budget you'd know the Abbott Govt stands for high spending and higher taxes.
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And Labor didn't do that?

We have a deficit ballooning out, and you think taxes don't have to be increased, pray tell us how?

 

[Tisme]

The meatdata will and should only be used for radical Muslims and criminals.

Is meatdata Halal Data?

 

[SirRumpole]

And Labor didn't do that?

We have a deficit ballooning out, and you think taxes don't have to be increased, pray tell us how?

You don't listen to anyone else do you ?

Syd and others have proposed various options for tax increases, they just happen to be ones you don't like.

 

[dutchie]

Is meatdata Halal Data?

Lol. Good one Tisme.

 

[noco]

3 months of inaction from the Palaszczuk Green/Labor left wing socialists and there will be little action for the remainder of the 3 years.....No confidence...no action..no infrastructure plan for 1 year .....no jobs except in the public service...housing construction down by 14%.....It used to be "QUEENSLAND THE SUNSHINE STATE", now there is a dark cloud hanging over us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz-q1lvWsFA

 

[noco]

I watch QT in parliament when ever possible but the Labor Party are a joke with the point scoring question they ask and they wonder why many of their questions are ruled out of order.

The Labor MPs carry on like a lot of school kids with their continuous interruption while a Liberal MP is trying to answer the question and the Labor people hate being reminded of their past.

Make sure you read the hundreds of comments of which 99% are derogatory against the Labor party.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...tion-time-ruling/story-fnihslxi-1227378184862

 

[sydboy007]

And Labor didn't do that?

We have a deficit ballooning out, and you think taxes don't have to be increased, pray tell us how?

Taxes do have to increase. Noco is complaining that QLD Labor rasied rego prices, yet totally missed the point that the NSW Liberals want to block some of the proposed cuts to electricity prices to help increase the proceeds from privatisation. It's basically a privatisation tax. Electricity customers will end up paying far more than the Govt will get in the initial sale price.

What you needed to do was have a bit more of a read than just the last thing I said:

If you have a read of my posts #706 and #709 you'd have an answer to your questions

have you missed my long term argument that NG / CGT / Super tax reform has to be done to sort out the Govt revenue issues? Before trying to increase current taxes, or introduce new ones, it would be better to stop the revenue bleed from various policies that distort the economy.

It was Abbott who went to the election promising of tax cuts with no new taxes. Didn't Abbott also promise a cut to the deficit and increased spending. Pray tell us how was that achieveable??

 

[sydboy007]

In comparison to the unions having access to personal data as opposed to the government with metadata, I know who I would trust and it certainly would not be the communist dominated CFMEU.

The meatdata will and should only be used for radical Muslims and criminals.

So you missed all the reporting coming out from the USA where the various agencies using all the data collected from snooping were tracking down terrorists and criminals...

Only it turned out they were sharing peoples private pictures sent to their partners.

There's been plenty of examples where various Govt employees have abused their access to personal information. Are you saying that the same abuse will never ever happen with metadata. It's likely to be as much a criminal enterprise hacking into the goldmine of metadata as Govt abusing it anyway.

But keep those political blinkers on and trust the Govt, at least while it's of a colour you support, because as we all know, they're here to help. Have you ever thought what you attitude will be when Labor is elected again Federally. Will you be so sanguine about metadata then?

 

[noco]

So you missed all the reporting coming out from the USA where the various agencies using all the data collected from snooping were tracking down terrorists and criminals...

Only it turned out they were sharing peoples private pictures sent to their partners.

There's been plenty of examples where various Govt employees have abused their access to personal information. Are you saying that the same abuse will never ever happen with metadata. It's likely to be as much a criminal enterprise hacking into the goldmine of metadata as Govt abusing it anyway.

But keep those political blinkers on and trust the Govt, at least while it's of a colour you support, because as we all know, they're here to help. Have you ever thought what you attitude will be when Labor is elected again Federally. Will you be so sanguine about metadata then?

So that means you are quite happy to give the Muslim radicals and criminals a free reign...Good on you Sydboy....and don't forget the corrupt criminals in the CFMEU.

 

[sydboy007]

So that means you are quite happy to give the Muslim radicals and criminals a free reign...Good on you Sydboy....and don't forget the corrupt criminals in the CFMEU.

Give me some solid evidence that metadata will in any way help with terrorism?

Germany has had similar laws for years and guess how useful they've been? so close to 0 it's not worth mentioning.

You also seem to be ignorant of the fact that is is very easy to bypass the current metatdata laws.

* email - don't use an aussie ISP email system. Could be as simple as using gmail.

* phone calls - use viber / skype / line etc.

* web sites - use a free proxy or pay for a vpn. $40 a year and 5 devices covered for the entire terrorist cell

So the terrorist has no visible footprint within the current metadata laws by using gmail, making calls on the app line, and using a free proxy server or extremely cheap VPN to hide all their web access.

So remind me again why we're spending around $500M to set it up and over $100M a year to keep it running?

https://www.crikey.com.au/2015/03/1...debate-what-it-is-and-why-it’s-bad/?wpmp_tp=2

In February 2015, a Dutch government agency found that data retention in the Netherlands had been unnecessary despite over four years of use. A German parliament study concluded data retention in Germany had led to an increase in the crime clearance rate of 0.006%. Danish police, who have a much wider metadata and content data retention scheme, said the sheer amount of information was too unwieldy to use. Barack Obama’s handpicked NSA review panel found that mass surveillance by the NSA had not been necessary to stop any terrorist attacks in the United States. Australian police forces and the Attorney-General’s Department officials themselves admitted they could produce no evidence beyond anecdotes about what benefit data retention would bring, and said metrics such as crime clearance rates wouldn’t ever show any benefit.

I look forward to you providing evidence that metadata retention will help solve crime and protect us against terrorism, especially when the agencies calling for it were unable to provide any.