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The useless Labor Party wants to bring back the useless Carbon Tax.

Excellent (a la Mr Burns)

They are just so funny.
 
dutchie said:
The useless Labor Party wants to bring back the useless Carbon Tax.

Excellent (a la Mr Burns)

They are just so funny.
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Don't know what I've got to do with this :confused: oh yes the cartoon Mr Burns.....

All I can do is wonder why this thread had gone on for 33 pages when the title should have been the start and finish of it.
 
MrBurns said:
Don't know what I've got to do with this :confused: oh yes the cartoon Mr Burns.....

All I can do is wonder why this thread had gone on for 33 pages when the title should have been the start and finish of it.
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How is your Abbott Govt any better?

2 budgets and how much meaningful reform?

A whitepaper that's already neutered to the point of worthless.

A PM who's weather vane politics are so plain to see with his on off on off support for an iron ore inquiry.

PM captains call fro no changes ever to super when the whol industry and pension association are saying a look at the issues, along with the pension and pensioner incomes needs to be all ont he table and looked at wholistically, but the Govt is playing politics with the issue because they want to appear to different to Labor.
 
Extra extra read all about it .........

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BILL Shorten is emerging as Julia Gillard reincarnated, with Labor poised to take key Gillard policies to the next election ”” including a price on carbon and softer boats policy.

Labor’s powerful left faction is pressuring Mr Shorten to soften his stance on national security and end the controversial turnback policy that stopped illegal boat arrivals.

Pressure is mounting on the Opposition Leader to take a stand on key issues after focus groups described him as “wishy-washy” and “weak”.

Former NSW Labor treasurer Michael Costa last night said Mr Shorten had taken Labor too far to the left.

Mr Costa’s comments echo former UK prime minister Tony Blair’s warning to then-Labour leader Ed Miliband before the British party was decimated at this month’s election.
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...-failed-policies/story-fnpn118l-1227364478193

No guessing which way the News Corp wants this to play out.

Wikipedia describes it best ...

Profoundly anti-Labor, The Telegraph's tongue is firmly planted up the rear end of the Australian Liberal Party. This is especially the case with its most high-profile columnists, among them Piers Akerman, Miranda Devine, Tim Blair and Andrew Bolt who are stridently politically conservative, and unabashedly provocative. Blair for instance, in 2014, labelled all arts students as a 'grasping kind' whose 'pointless degrees' fitted them for 'pointless careers as academics, public servants and drug addicts', in an article that began by favourably invoking a New Zealand musical troupe whose members were arts graduates.[9]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph_(Australia)
 
sydboy007 said:
How is your Abbott Govt any better?

2 budgets and how much meaningful reform?

A whitepaper that's already neutered to the point of worthless.

A PM who's weather vane politics are so plain to see with his on off on off support for an iron ore inquiry.

PM captains call fro no changes ever to super when the whol industry and pension association are saying a look at the issues, along with the pension and pensioner incomes needs to be all ont he table and looked at wholistically, but the Govt is playing politics with the issue because they want to appear to different to Labor.
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Isn't this thread supposed be about the "USELESS LABOR PARTY"?

In case you have forgotten, there is another thread about the Abbott Government.
 
After all this about the missile destroyers over budget and 3 years late, Shorten still wants the submarines built in Australia...He has no idea about economics ...perhaps he should be talking to Mark Latham who a degree in economics.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...blows-out-to-9bn/story-e6frg8yo-1227364435942

The Air Warfare Destroyer program will run about $2 billion over budget and be nearly three years late, according to a forensic audit to be released today.

The total cost to build the three missile destroyers will exceed $9bn, meaning each ship will cost approximately $3bn. Comparable ships built by Navantia in Spain cost about $1bn.

If Australia had bought the ships ready-built in Spain, it could have had nine for the price of three, or saved $6bn.
 
noco said:
After all this about the missile destroyers over budget and 3 years late, Shorten still wants the submarines built in Australia...He has no idea about economics ...perhaps he should be talking to Mark Latham who a degree in economics.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...blows-out-to-9bn/story-e6frg8yo-1227364435942

The Air Warfare Destroyer program will run about $2 billion over budget and be nearly three years late, according to a forensic audit to be released today.

The total cost to build the three missile destroyers will exceed $9bn, meaning each ship will cost approximately $3bn. Comparable ships built by Navantia in Spain cost about $1bn.

If Australia had bought the ships ready-built in Spain, it could have had nine for the price of three, or saved $6bn.
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Well even Abbott can't make up his mind if he was selling Japan on the FTA for the subs or if he was worried about losing too many seats in SA so going ahead with building the subs there.

You get these issues when the PM has no spine and makes decisions based on the latest polling.
 
sydboy007 said:
Well even Abbott can't make up his mind if he was selling Japan on the FTA for the subs or if he was worried about losing too many seats in SA so going ahead with building the subs there.

You get these issues when the PM has no spine and makes decisions based on the latest polling.
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Syd, unlike Shorten, I am sure Abbott will make a decision in the best interest of Australia.

Shorten wants to support his communist dominated union mates and build the subs in Australia irrespective of the cost.

If Labor attempted to build the subs in Australia, they will finish up like the navy air missile defense ships, $2 billion over budget and 3 years late....If Shorten builds the subs here, they will finish up in the same fate as the ships.
Most likely cost 3 times as much and probably 5 years late. ...By the time they hit the water, they will be obsolete.
 
noco said:
Syd, unlike Shorten, I am sure Abbott will make a decision in the best interest of Australia.

Shorten wants to support his communist dominated union mates and build the subs in Australia irrespective of the cost.

If Labor attempted to build the subs in Australia, they will finish up like the navy air missile defense ships, $2 billion over budget and 3 years late....If Shorten builds the subs here, they will finish up in the same fate as the ships.
Most likely cost 3 times as much and probably 5 years late. ...By the time they hit the water, they will be obsolete.
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They couldn't build school halls without blowing millions of taxpayers dollars so I don't think I'd let them loose on submarines :rolleyes:
 
noco said:
Syd, unlike Shorten, I am sure Abbott will make a decision in the best interest of Australia.

Shorten wants to support his communist dominated union mates and build the subs in Australia irrespective of the cost.

If Labor attempted to build the subs in Australia, they will finish up like the navy air missile defense ships, $2 billion over budget and 3 years late....If Shorten builds the subs here, they will finish up in the same fate as the ships.
Most likely cost 3 times as much and probably 5 years late. ...By the time they hit the water, they will be obsolete.
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MrBurns said:
They couldn't build school halls without blowing millions of taxpayers dollars so I don't think I'd let them loose on submarines :rolleyes:
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Oh, you mean the Abbott Govt that promised a nation wide FTTN rollout in years of opposition in it's first term then reneged on the promise within a few months of getting into office. Yup, they certainly know how to promise the world and fail to deliver.
 
sydboy007 said:
Oh, you mean the Abbott Govt that promised a nation wide FTTN rollout in years of opposition in it's first term then reneged on the promise within a few months of getting into office. Yup, they certainly know how to promise the world and fail to deliver.
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Syd, what the hell are you talking about?

The Abbott government is still proceeding with the NBN, they are doing it more economically than Labor.....Conroy was behind schedule and over budget just like all Labor projects..The FTTN would have cost a fortune to complete...Something which we could not afford without going deeper into debt......We have enough problems left by the Green/Labor socialists and I am sure I don't have to go into detail about that.

Once again you are off the theme of this thread but of course that is the way Labor operates.....diversification away from the real problem.
 
noco said:
Syd, what the hell are you talking about?

The Abbott government is still proceeding with the NBN, they are doing it more economically than Labor.....Conroy was behind schedule and over budget just like all Labor projects..The FTTN would have cost a fortune to complete...Something which we could not afford without going deeper into debt......We have enough problems left by the Green/Labor socialists and I am sure I don't have to go into detail about that.

Once again you are off the theme of this thread but of course that is the way Labor operates.....diversification away from the real problem.
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Have you forgotten that Abbott and Turnbull both promised before the 2013 election that they would rollout the NBN so that all households would have a minimum of 25Mbs, with a goal for 2019 of 90% of the population getting 50Mbs. In december 2013 Turnbull admitted that policy was not going to be achieved, thoyugh he should have been more honest to say it was never achievable.

Now, the other topic was your submarines. I'm wondering if Abbott will follow the Howard seasprites doctrine. $1.4B junked because they ended up so unsafe to fly. Reminds me a bit of the JSF, the largest boondoggle in US history and likely to see Australia so far behind most Asian countries in the next 10 years in terms of air power. Not sure what Howard was more gun ho to sign up Australia for. The Iraq War, $2.5B last year and counting, The USAUS FTA, leaving us with a PBS bill over $200M a year higher, or the JSF. Decisions based mainly on short term politics than the long term interests of the country.

As for being on topic, I'm just highlighting that claims you make for Labor being useless as just as applicable for the Liberals.
 
dutchie said:
This is the crux of the submarine debate.

(my bolds)
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Ah, you have heard that Sinodinos recently admitted that Abbott made is nope nope nope on changes to super based purely on the politics "It's a strategic decision."

I think Abbott's more worried about bums on the treasury benches than he is about the long term welfare of the country.
 
sydboy007 said:
Ah, you have heard that Sinodinos recently admitted that Abbott made is nope nope nope on changes to super based purely on the politics "It's a strategic decision."

I think Abbott's more worried about bums on the treasury benches than he is about the long term welfare of the country.
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I thought it was nope, nope, nope to people smugglers....you seem to be in a muddle with your rhetoric.

The Useless Labor Party costs us over $11 billion with their stupid policy on open borders and we are still counting.
 
sydboy007 said:
Have you forgotten that Abbott and Turnbull both promised before the 2013 election that they would rollout the NBN so that all households would have a minimum of 25Mbs, with a goal for 2019 of 90% of the population getting 50Mbs. In december 2013 Turnbull admitted that policy was not going to be achieved, thoyugh he should have been more honest to say it was never achievable.

Now, the other topic was your submarines. I'm wondering if Abbott will follow the Howard seasprites doctrine. $1.4B junked because they ended up so unsafe to fly. Reminds me a bit of the JSF, the largest boondoggle in US history and likely to see Australia so far behind most Asian countries in the next 10 years in terms of air power. Not sure what Howard was more gun ho to sign up Australia for. The Iraq War, $2.5B last year and counting, The USAUS FTA, leaving us with a PBS bill over $200M a year higher, or the JSF. Decisions based mainly on short term politics than the long term interests of the country.

As for being on topic, I'm just highlighting that claims you make for Labor being useless as just as applicable for the Liberals.
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Conroy promised us 100 Mbs of which he had no hope of attaining.

I repeat, Conroy was already way over budget, behind time and had sent some contractors broke in the meantime....One of I know in Townsville....Conroy was hopeless.

My gawd you are becoming desperate to bring Howard into the firing line.
 
Conroy was almost the worst example of someone totally unfit for public office, though it's a close competition in the ALP for that title.:rolleyes:
 
With just 17% membership in the private sector and some 42% in the public sector, the communist dominated unions sure have a lot of say in how the Queensland state government is run.

Watch the state public service now explode back to the bad old days of Anna Bligh.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...nions-is-payback/story-fntuy59x-1227365702491

Annastacia Palaszczuk needs to level with Queenslanders on this one, particularly the public servants whose independence is being diminished by this document,” he said.

“I don’t think Queenslanders voted to allow union bosses to have access to the personal details of every new government employee and they certainly didn’t vote for union encouragement to be at the top of the Palaszczuk-Gordon Government’s agenda.”

Union delegates will also be given taxpayer-subsidised office space, telephones, computers, noticeboards and other facilities – and allowed to recruit members and conduct union business during office hours. And you will pay for it.
 
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