wayneL
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anon said:So after all of the above arguments what conclusion did the forum members come to? Did the muslim fanatics blow the Twin Towers up, or was it done by the George Bush-CIA Inc.?
I've given it a simple test and my conclusion was that CIA was guilty, not of blowing the towers up but of not preventing them from being blown up by the muslim fanatics.
The test was based on the American Culture of taking legal action for any and every occasion that they think they can win, and thereby get huge financial rewards. 9/11 wasn't just any occasion. It was The Occasion which will be remembered for ever. Some three thousand people were killed and enormous financial losses were suffered by the occupiers and by those who dealt with them. If ever there was a case for a huge number of very expensive law suits against the U.S. Government - this would have been it. That is, if there was a shred of evidence connecting CIA or George Bush to it. It's almost five years now since the big event, and there have not been any legal action against the U.S. Government in relation to the huge loss of life and for the huge financial losses resulting from the 9/11 event.
Proof is in lack of proof, lack of any credible evidence against the CIA conspiracy theory. On the contrary, there is a lot of real evidence linking muslim extremists to this crime of the century. But even intelligent people will believe what they want to believe as we have seen on this thread.
anon
wayneL said:anon
There is (or was) a 7 billion dollar class action suit against Dubya et al. It was never reported in the MSM (surprise surprise surprise)
Let me try to find some references to it.
Freeballinginawetsuit said:Julia the palestinians never had a home and were always a nomadic wandering mob not really acknowleded by their fellow Arabs.
The spoils of WW2 for the allies was Palestine. Considering what happened to the JEWS in the holocaust and the action of Europe in appeasing Hitler, what would you have considered just?
Incidently pretty much every country has snatched land in war/hostility, England did it with Australia from the aborigines (killed most of them off in Tassie as well).
The Israelis fought off the Arabs in the Yon Kippur war, held their own ground and snatched some new stuff for buffer zones.
Much of the Arab nations have not gotten over this. The fact is they cannot oppose Israel militarily and have resorted to their terrorist activities since the 60s.
Some one on this thread said Israel invented Terrorism, what a pile of rubbish.
Nations that are not effective militarily or do not wish to invade a country resort to the use of rabid individuals as terrorists to inflict harm.Why do you think Hizzbolah are in the South next to Israel, to terrorize and why is the Leboneze Army not in the South. Why has Lebonan got an active Militia policing its Southern Border?
Julia said:So are you saying that the country of Palestine simply didn't exist at the end of WWII?
Julia
From ABC, September 8, 2006
Video shows Twin Towers attack preparations
The Arab television channel Al-Jazeera has broadcast a video which it says shows Osama bin Laden and suicide candidates of Al Qaeda preparing the September 11, 2001 attacks against the United States.
Al-Jazeera had said earlier it would broadcast "a video that included scenes showing for the first time Al Qaeda leaders preparing the September 11 attacks and practicing for their execution".
The video shows bin Laden and two of the 19 Islamist militants that took part in the attacks, Saudi nationals Hamza el-Ramdi and Wael el-Shemari.
They speak of the situation faced by Muslims in Bosnia and Chechnya.
The footage also shows hand-to-hand combat practice between people wearing masks over their heads.
Al-Jazeera says it has only aired a few minutes of a document, which it says lasts about an hour-and-a-half.
Happy said:Trying not to deviate from main theme of this thread only appropriate comment would be – more unanswered questions?
Happy said:Trying not to deviate from main theme of this thread only appropriate comment would be – more unanswered questions?
Dan_ said:However if you are interested in watching a documentary and havent seen many (or any of the above) I would recommended Loose Change 2nd edition as the one to watch, it’s developed and narrated by a young guy (can't remember his name) it is very well presented and deals with a lot of factual evidence. For example it measures the melting point for steel in the buildings against recorded temperatures of burning aviation fuel and clearly highlights that the steel can withstand this type of heat for many hours (in some cases days)
imaginator said:And the engineers are saying it is impossible that fire could bring down those towers, it was clearly explosives/detonators (as in a demolition job).
From ABC, September 14, 2006
Syria sees chance to improve ties with US after attack
Syria suggested that its efforts in foiling a brazen daylight attack on the US embassy in Damascus could pave the way for an improvement in tense relations between the two nations.
It earned rare praise from US President George W Bush's administration for thwarting Tuesday's attack, which saw Islamist gunmen using mortars, automatic weapons and explosives-rigged vehicles to try to storm the compound.
Three attackers and one Syrian security guard were killed in a gun battle outside the embassy following the unprecedented attack in Damascus that also left 14 people injured but no American casualties.
A fourth gunman died of his injuries in hospital, state-run SANA news agency said on Wednesday, adding that all four assailants had been Syrian nationals.
"Due to his critical condition, investigators were unable to interrogate him to unravel this terrorist operation," for which there has been no claim of responsibility, the agency said.
SANA's report appeared to contradict claims by a senior US official who said in Washington late on Tuesday that the gunman captured during the attack had been cooperating with Syrian authorities.
As the US embassy remained closed amid warnings to Americans to keep a low-profile, some believed the attack could help to improve ties between Washington and Damascus.
Syrian officials have called the attack a "terrorist" act, with state media describing the assailants as "tafkiri" Islamist radicals.
Relations between Washington and Damascus took a turn for the worse in February 2005 amid accusations that Syria was involved in the murder of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri.
Tensions mounted over Syria's support for the Muslim Shiite Lebanese Hezbollah group in its month-long war with Israel and last week the White House branded Syria and regional ally Iran "especially worrisome" threats.
The United States praised Syria for protecting its embassy and citizens and foiling the attack.
"I do think that the Syrians reacted to this attack in a way that helped to secure our people and we very much appreciate that," US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said.
The Syrian government daily Tishrin meanwhile urged the international community to close ranks in the fight against terrorism.
"The international community must step up its efforts for a real fight against terrorism," it said in an editorial.
Syria's embassy in Washington on Tuesday had blamed the attack on US policies in the Middle East and said it must review its position on Iraq and the Palestinians.
Analysts also hoped both sides would draw lessons from the attack and move towards improving ties in order to stem terrorism.
- AFP
Syria suggested that its efforts in foiling a brazen daylight attack on the US embassy in Damascus could pave the way for an improvement in tense relations between the two nations.
Julia said:So will we now have the conspiracy theorists declaring that GWB had a chat with Osama and jacked up the whole thing?
Julia
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331This one links Christianity, 9/11 and the Federal Reserve. If your Christian you might be offended by Part 1, Sources ==> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/sources.htm
Good follow on from Zeitgeist
This is a great video. Links, CIA to Drugs, Wall Street, etc and also goes into the background events of 9/11
Covers in detail the proven history of government sponsored terrorism, and focuses on the 7/7 London bombings and 9/11
This has no narration or conjecture, only news footage and interviews to tell the story
Determined to find the law that requires American citizens to pay income tax, producer Aaron Russo ("The Rose," "Trading Places") set out on a journey to find the evidence. This film which is neither left, nor right-wing is a startling examination of government. It exposes the systematic erosion of civil liberties in America since 1913 when the Federal Reserve system was fraudulently created. Through interviews with U.S.
Congressmen, a former IRS Commissioner, former IRS and FBI agents and tax attorneys and authors, Russo connects the dots between money creation, federal income tax, and the national identity card which becomes law in May 2008. This ID card will use Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) chips which are essentially homing devices used to track people. This film shows in great detail and undeniable facts that America is moving headlong into a fascist police state. Wake up!
The Federal Reserve, or the Fed as it is lovingly called, may be one of the most mysterious entities in modern American government. Created during Wilson's presidency to protect the economy in times of financial turmoil, its real business remains to be discovered. During the Wilson presidency, the U.S. government sanctions the creation of the Federal Reserve. Thought by many to be a government organization maintained to provide financial accountability in the event of a domestic depression, the actual business of the Fed is shrouded in secrecy.
Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
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Folks, this is a major story and will be totally ignored by ABCNNBBCBS.
This is a peer-reviewed report in a science journal which confirms the presence of a manufactured material consisting of tiny flakes of aluminum metal coated with iron oxide discovered at four different locations in the wreckage of the World Trade Center.
Aluminum and iron oxide, mixed equally by weight, is the classic recipe for thermite. This material is very fine, increasing its burn speed, and apparently has some additional components (besides the very fine granular size) which lower the ignition temperature.
This report directly contradicts the official government claim that there was no trace of internal explosives in the ruins of the World Trade Center.
See Thermite and the WTC Collapses
See 9/11: All In One Chunk
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