Ukraine War
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Let me cherry pick 2 examples that I think my foes use to discredit my propaganda. If i can discredit that, then my propaganda is clearly now valid. I am absolutely good and Russia is absolutely bad.
And you're right. Why would anyone put labs with chemical weapons near the enemies' borders? Surely there would never be a situation during war where that could be useful!
I wasn't sure who to hate til you used words such as "bitter old" and "filthy" and threatened to strangle someone with an "educated leftie" view.. Please sir, tell me more about who I should hate and who I should side with in this obviously simple black-and-white hollywood movie of a world.
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Chemical weapon labs. Highly illegal. Both China and Russia were witnesses that a number of them existed. Must be true eh?
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Who was it that said 'History never repeats itself, but it does often rhyme'
No wonder the Russians don’t want Finland in NATO. As Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine turns into what will be a long winter war there are plenty of folk memories of how the Finns gave the Red Army a bloody nose in 1939-40.
Stalin’s army was reputed to be one of the best in the world. It outnumbered and outgunned the Finns by four to one yet the ghost patrols of the ski troops kept the Russians at bay for months, ripping out sentries’ bellies with their puukko hunting knives.
Today’s war in Ukraine is about to turn even nastier. With the added advantage of western training and western weapons, the Ukrainian soldiers are shaping up to be, like the Finns more than 80 years ago, a modern, fast-thinking home defence force capable of humiliating Moscow.
Those who have chosen to be non-aligned, such as India and other Asian countries, must be scratching their heads; China must be nervous about being in cahoots with what looks like a military power in steep decline. NATO is taking heart: alliance solidarity and expansion can, despite decades of defeatism, shrink the power of Putin and his ilk.
But not NATO member Turkey. While the rest of the alliance has been rushing to ratify the admission of Finland and Sweden, Ankara hasn’t even started on the process. The two traditionally neutral Nordic states cannot join the transatlantic pact until there is complete unanimity.
Instead Recep Tayyip Erdogan pursues a reckless love-in with Putin. The Turkish president imagines he is treading the statesmanlike path; in fact he is administering increasingly stronger doses of strychnine to the defence of the West.
Erdogan was of course quick to offer Putin 70th birthday greetings this month. He opposes sanctions against Russia and actively seeks to profit from the situation. Trade with Russia has hit a new high: $50 billion so far this year. Turkish Airlines is laying on bigger aircraft on its Russian routes because of a tourism boom. Russians have bought more than 8000 properties in Turkey so far this year (it was 5000 last year). Moscow’s oligarchs feel safe mooring and kitting out their yachts in Turkey. When Erdogan wants to annoy the Americans he buys air defence systems from Russia. The result: Putin will never be a pariah as long as Erdogan is happy to help.
The Turkish president wants something in return: help from Russia in winning a new term in office next June. With galloping inflation and a wrecked economy Erdogan needs to pull something out of the hat. That could come in the form of a pre-election offer to young Turkish voters of help in getting on the property ladder. Russia might be ready to finance that.
The Turkish leader is a transactionalist politician. It could even be that he wins from Finland (and especially from Sweden) tougher enforcement of extradition laws against the many Kurdish exiles living there in return for being the last NATO country to accept the two new Nordic members.
Or he may just hold up the ratification process until after his election, by which time the tide of war might have switched in favour of Putin, or western support for Volodymyr Zelensky weakened.
But the relationship with Putin is about more than trading favours. They are both long servers (Putin since 2000, Erdogan since 2014) and have come to understand each other’s limits. As an old spy, Putin likes dealing with neutral states and would certainly prefer Finland to stay that way. He wants an internationally enforced neutrality for Ukraine, dances at private weddings in neutral Austria and is said to have squirrelled some of his fortune in neutral Switzerland.
His strategic aim would be that Turkey leaves NATO and declares neutrality. Knowing that to be unrealistic, he would settle for Turkey being a constant complicating factor, a shifty, unreliable ally for the western alliance. That’s what he has got as long as Erdogan remains in power.
That may mean accepting for a while Turkey’s dealing with an independent Ukrainian state. But Putin knows how to subtly unravel any Turkish relationship with Kyiv. Erdogan co-negotiated the opening of Ukraine’s Black Sea ports but the grain exports are only trickling through to customers in the developing world. Why? Russia is holding up the processing of the cargos – 150 ships are in a logjam.
The already fragile agreement is set to end next month and Putin intends to exploit the deadline to the detriment of Kyiv. Erdogan will be the middleman, extracting concessions from the Ukrainians to the advantage of his friend.
Turkey gave an early boost to Ukrainian troops with supplies of drones. Now these are drying up and Russia is investing in a cheaper Iranian drone force. Result: Ukraine is exposed from the air and Turkey has been taught that it is not the only drone supplier in the crisis.
Erdogan and Putin’s interests collide in many global flashpoints, in Libya, northern Syria, in Nagorno-Karabakh, but they usually stay friends.
The Turkish leader believes this is down to his own diplomatic genius. The Russian leader probably believes he has turned the new sultan into a useful idiot.
They share, and are bonded by, a deep distrust of American intentions. That is not a healthy foundation for the new NATO.
Finland and Sweden should join the alliance immediately and bring with them their highly developed ideas on strategic resilience. Erdogan meanwhile should make his choice: to work towards a joint defence of the West or enjoy a long retirement with Putin, the war criminal.
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"War is also rare between democracies (the number of which has increased in the past 200 years), perhaps because voters tend not to like the costs of it and boot out their belligerent leaders." Remind me what political system Russia has.Vladimir Putin is dragging the world back to a bloodier time
His attempt to conquer Ukraine ignores the lessons of history
Vladimir Putin is a keen reader of history. In long months of isolation during the covid-19 pandemic, say some, Russia’s president lingered in the Kremlin archives brooding over his country’s past as a great power and dreaming of restoring it. He admires the early Romanovs, who cemented their rule at the turn of the 17th century following a dynastic crisis marked by violence and lawlessness in Russia and then set off conquering their way to the Pacific Ocean. In particular he has compared himself to Peter the Great, the tsar who seized land from Sweden and turned Russia into the dominant power in the Baltic region.
In 2014 Mr Putin’s forces seized Crimea, a peninsula in southern Ukraine. People there were eventually handed Russian passports. At the time, the move seemed simply opportunistic. Conquering Crimea was popular among Russians, many of whom considered the territory’s transfer from the Russian Soviet Federation of Socialist Republics to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1954 as illegitimate. But the taking of Crimea, and the support provided by Russia to rebels in Ukraine’s Luhansk and Donetsk provinces, now look more like steps in a grand plan to seize Ukrainian land.
In a rambling speech three days before Russian missiles started falling on Ukrainian cities in February, Mr Putin lamented the loss of the “territory of the former Russian empire”. Eight months into the invasion his forces now occupy some 15% of Ukrainian soil. But it is not going according to plan. Ukraine’s counter-offensive continues to push back Russian troops. On September 30th, following sham referendums, Russia announced it had annexed four eastern and southern regions of Ukraine, though it does not wholly control them. Announcing the move, Mr Putin decried the West’s “fake rules”, including the inviolability of borders. But his invasion has weakened Russia, not strengthened it. In attempting to conquer a neighbouring sovereign country, he tried bucking history. He is failing.
Since the end of the second world war, wars between countries have, for many reasons, become rarer. That is not to say they have disappeared, and the decline in interstate war is not the same as peace: civil wars (such as the one now raging in Ethiopia), state repression and other mass violence continue to inflict enormous human suffering. Wars of independence from colonial repression were often extremely deadly too. But examples of one state sending its armed forces over a border to fight those of another have become far less common.
Even rarer than war between countries, however, is what Mr Putin is trying to do: imperial conquest, or invading a country to make its territory his own. As Yuval Noah Harari, a historian and author, wrote this year, “most governments stopped seeing wars of aggression as an acceptable tool to advance their interests, and most nations stopped fantasising about conquering and annexing their neighbours.” Saddam Hussein believed, wrongly, that Iraq would be permitted by other states to swallow up Kuwait in 1990. Most other examples of such efforts—such as India absorbing Goa in 1961 and Sikkim in 1975—are older still. China might yet try it in Taiwan. But with the exception of Mr Putin’s efforts, and clashes over uninhabited border areas or small islands, the phenomenon has all but disappeared.
The dramatic decline did not happen by chance. The reasons behind it explain something about how states now interact with each other. They also point to why Mr Putin’s war of aggression in Ukraine is so exceptional, and unlikely to end in success.
Evidence for the decline in war is not hard to find. The Correlates of War Project, an international research outfit, has collected data on every interstate war fought since 1816, after the Napoleonic wars. These data confirm that wars—meaning conflicts between states with at least 1,000 battle deaths in one year—are becoming much rarer.
The causes are many. Where economies rely on international trade which can be disrupted by conflict, the cost of war increases. In turn, lower trade barriers help to reduce the potential spoils. After all, invading territory in order to impose trade terms, or to access new markets, is hardly rewarding if markets were already open. This is not a sufficient condition for peace, as the first world war showed, but it does reduce the incentives for conflict. War is also rare between democracies (the number of which has increased in the past 200 years), perhaps because voters tend not to like the costs of it and boot out their belligerent leaders. Some scholars even argue that, depending on how strictly you define democracy, two have never gone to war with each other. Finally, strategic nuclear weapons would make total war so destructive as to be hard to imagine.
Smaller conflicts remain common, but even counting all interstate clashes with over 25 deaths, the proportion of the world’s population killed in battle has sharply declined (see chart). This is in part because improved training and equipment protect soldiers better than ever, and medicine has improved. Researchers estimate the wounded-to-killed ratio in wars has more than doubled over the past 50 years.
In Ukraine, however, the human cost has already been extraordinarily high. Estimates vary, but at least 16,500 soldiers have died from both sides, and that number may be as high as 50,000. In September Ben Wallace, Britain’s defence minister, claimed that Russian casualties (the dead and the wounded) amounted to 80,000.
As a big and deadly war, Mr Putin’s invasion of Ukraine looks unusual when compared with historical trends. But his aim, to use force to permanently enlarge his country’s already immense territory, is not just a rarity. It is an aberration. According to the Correlates of War data, since the late 1970s no large conquests took place until the seizing of Crimea in 2014. Attempted conquests have steadily declined too: in data going back to the first world war collected by Dan Altman, a researcher, violent bids for territory have fallen from roughly one a year to almost none, if small islands and unpopulated areas are excluded.
In a typical decade between 1850 and 1940, perhaps 1% of the world’s population saw their rulers change as a result of conquest, according to the Correlates of War data. But in the past 40 years, excluding Ukraine, fewer than 100,000 people (or 0.001%) have experienced the same, almost all of them in long-disputed areas during the war between Armenia and Azerbaijan in 2020.
A variety of factors explain the almost complete elimination of states successfully seizing each others’ territory. The economic benefits have shrivelled while the costs have become extraordinarily high; the modern expectations of a state make it difficult to rule a group of people against its will; and international norms and institutions mean that other states are more likely to intervene to prevent it.
Six-day war
1967
Even if the destructive force of a modern war doesn’t destroy an area’s productive potential, economic activity, once driven almost entirely by land and natural resources, is now more reliant on human capital. Workers are unlikely to toil in conflict zones, or under the control of invaders. If they can, they will often leave. The security measures often required to maintain control over territory require restrictions on movement and trade that can sap its growth.
Take the West Bank, seized by Israel during the six-day war against Arab states in 1967. In the decades since, Israel has built scores of settlements, both in an arc around East Jerusalem, which it formally annexed in 1980, and more widely across the West Bank. Today around 60% of the area is under full Israeli control; the rest is either under joint Israeli and Palestinian jurisdiction or controlled mostly by the Palestinian Authority overseen by Israel.
Some Israeli politicians accept that most of the West Bank would be the core of a Palestinian state in a future peace deal, others want to annex it fully. But in the meantime it has withered. According to the UN, the GDP per person of the West Bank and the Gaza strip, also captured by Israel during the six-day war, was just $3,700 in 2019, compared with $44,000 for Israel. Gaza proved so tricky to keep under control that Israel withdrew its last 8,500 settlers in 2005.
Carl Kaysen, who served as deputy national security adviser to President John F. Kennedy and taught at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, questioned in 1990 whether a conquered industrialised society could ever be fully incorporated into a modern state against the will of its inhabitants. The population needs to be won over. People can sometimes be exploited economically. Peter Liberman, of the City University of New York, has pointed to Japan, which seized Korea, Manchuria and Taiwan between 1895 and 1931 and built an “economically booming and politically submissive empire”. But this was only possible using enormous brutality, and under obvious military control.
Globalisation has eroded the incentives to conquer too. A vast reduction in shipping costs over the past century has allowed countries to look far beyond their neighbours for a greater share of trade and resources. And, as tariffs and other barriers to trade between countries have fallen, it has become pointless to integrate markets by force.
Afghanistan
2001
Those attempting to hold territory face increased challenges. America and its allies found as much in their efforts to turn impoverished Afghanistan into a modern democracy after they invaded and deposed the Taliban in 2001.
Despite the occupiers’ overwhelming military advantages—such as control of the skies—Taliban forces eventually triumphed, resulting in a humiliating withdrawal for America in 2021. Highly motivated guerilla fighters, often supported by a sympathetic civilian population, were far readier to suffer casualties and privation than were the occupiers. Neighbouring Pakistan, whose army and spies long backed the Taliban, badly complicated America’s efforts to impose order. The extraordinary costs of sustaining a military occupation in a remote, land-locked territory in Asia, meanwhile, became ever harder for American politicians to explain to voters.
In part, this is because expectations on what states need to provide their citizens have grown, be it education, health care or economic opportunities. That increases costs (and the need for revenue), and introduces points of friction between citizens and the state, such as schooling. In many countries, people also have clearer national identities than they once did. Primary education, which plays an important role in instilling such identities in children, especially through language learning, is a frequent source of conflict in occupied areas. Stable borders play a role in building national identities too, solidifying them over the decades. In Ukraine, even predominantly Russian-speaking parts of the east and south have become vehemently anti-Russian. In Odessa, a port city which holds a treasured place in Russia’s history and culture, Ukrainian flags now fly from every street corner.
And options for controlling the occupied, at least for conquerors with a conscience—or the desire to look like they have one—are more limited than they once were. Slavery and “divide and rule” tactics, like those Britain used to maintain order in the empire, are now held as morally bankrupt and barbaric almost everywhere (even if they remain far from wholly eliminated). Genocide is even more so—to the point outside states perceive a responsibility, and right, to protect populations from it, using military means if need be.
Kuwait
1990
It is not just atrocities such as genocide that will prompt other states to intervene and stop an occupation. On August 2nd 1990, Iraqi forces moved into Kuwait. Less than four weeks later Saddam Hussein announced that Kuwait had become the 19th governorate of Iraq. The reaction from the rest of the world was swift. A day after the invasion the UN Security Council unanimously passed resolution 660, condemning it. Even Russia and China were happy to sign up to an American-led intervention against Saddam. Eleven more resolutions followed and, after Saddam ignored several deadlines to withdraw, Operation Desert Storm began. A coalition of 35 countries routed the Iraqi army in just six weeks.
The first Gulf War happened at a time of American supremacy at the end of the Cold War, and is the clearest recent example of the norm against conquest being enforced. By and large, public opinion no longer holds conquest to be a legitimate tool of statecraft, which influences how leaders act. It also limits conquest in other ways. Customary behaviour, or the adherence to norms, is one source of international law. And multilateral institutions such as the UN give these norms power by upholding them.
The establishment of a consensus against big land grabs is part of why so few countries have expanded their borders by force since the end of the second world war, including in places where few expected borders to be stable, such as in newly independent parts of Africa. Although Moroccan and Mauritanian soldiers invaded Western Sahara in 1975, other more recent border changes in the continent have been the result of secession (as in Eritrea and South Sudan) not conquest. Norms and institutions may not preclude states from attempting conquest. But public attitudes, international law and institutions make them even less likely to succeed.
Empire state of mind
Mr Putin has long been blind to these arguments. And he cares little for others’ interpretation of the past. “People with their own views on our country’s history might argue with me, but I think that the Russian and Ukrainian peoples are practically one single people, no matter what others might say,” he declared in 2014, less than six months after he seized Crimea. Perhaps comments like these should have alerted Western powers to his wider territorial ambitions in Ukraine much sooner.
But now that they have woken up, they seem determined to uphold the norms that have halted other countries from expanding their borders by force. Western countries have not sent their forces to fight in Ukraine. But they are supplying Ukraine with their most advanced conventional weapons, training its soldiers, funding its government, and attempting to cripple Mr Putin’s invasion with sanctions. On the 21st September, in a speech to the UN General Assembly, President Joe Biden put it bluntly: “If nations can pursue their imperial ambitions without consequences, then we put at risk everything this very institution stands for.”
Correction (October 25th): A previous version of this article misstated the number of interstate wars since 1992 with over 1,000 deaths. Sorry.
The data and code to replicate this analysis can be found here.
Of course not! Identity is very important as you suggest. We need to believe in the freedom loving Americans! They surely have trustworthy faces and a history of telling the truth ?
Knobby22
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You prove my point, sir.
US, Israel, Saudi Arabia... countries known for apartheid and genocide. We can never say anything bad about them or it's "racist" / gaslighted. But it's totally ok to fabricate lies, insult, threaten and humiliate Russians / Russia.
Anybody who has read a book knows who the real fascists and genocidal maniacs in this world are ???
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Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
Supremacy of the Military
Rampant Sexism
Controlled Mass Media
Obsession with National Security
Religion and Government are Intertwined
Corporate Power is Protected
Labor Power is Suppressed
Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fraudulent Elections
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Hmmm, looks suspiciously like the management at Essendon Football Club.
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It is one of the reason Russia wanted Ukraine.ukraine is an underdeveloped European country still relatively young and dirt poor: there is a reason Ukrainian girls are populating European prostitution, nice girls but mostly dirt poor and a mafia ruling the country.
Putin thought they would join(back) the mother country and bring new blood without the issues the EU has with its "new blood".
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Are we talking Biden or Putin, or most probably both?
The note about sexism is disputable and probably indicative of a woke origin.it is hard to see the nazi or stalin as strongly sexist, quite the opposite.
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Suggest stopping shipments of oil from Russia to India
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Ukraine power, water supplies smashed across the country.
No water, no power = no sanitation, no food, strangled industry
Winter plus no water, no power = mass disease, widespread hunger, civilian deaths beyond measure as cold and hunger take their course
Welcome to Ukraine 1933-4 revisited courtesy of their Russian saviours.
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Evidence of widespread cannibalism was documented during the Holodomor:[52][53]
No water, no power = no sanitation, no food, strangled industry
Winter plus no water, no power = mass disease, widespread hunger, civilian deaths beyond measure as cold and hunger take their course
Welcome to Ukraine 1933-4 revisited courtesy of their Russian saviours.
Russia targets Ukraine energy and water infrastructure in missile attacks
As winter looms, Moscow escalates missile attacks on vital utilities such as hydro plants, substations and dams
Holodomor - Wikipedia
Evidence of widespread cannibalism was documented during the Holodomor:[52][53]
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More to come from Putin. Clearly determined to turn Ukraine into a festering wasteland.
The end game ? A failed Ukraine state led by a Ukrainian vassal.
All agriculture under the control of Russian entities as well as power infrastructure (nuclear power stations) and natural resources.
A population ground into the dirt.
Be interesting to see the Ukraine response. Perhaps some selective head hunting ?
Ukraine said Russia launched 55 cruise missiles on Monday but most were shot down.(AP: Russian Defense Ministry Press Service)
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Russian strikes on Ukrainian infrastructure on Monday were in part a response to a drone attack on the Black Sea fleet over the weekend, President Vladimir Putin has said during a news conference in Sochi, indicating more action could follow.
"That's not all we could have done," he told a televised news conference.
Russia sent a barrage of missiles over the weekend that hit critical infrastructure in Kyiv, Kharkiv and other cities.
Officials said 80 per cent of consumers in Kyiv were left without water supplies "due to the damage to a power facility" and hundreds of localities in seven Ukrainian regions were left without power.
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The end game ? A failed Ukraine state led by a Ukrainian vassal.
All agriculture under the control of Russian entities as well as power infrastructure (nuclear power stations) and natural resources.
A population ground into the dirt.
Be interesting to see the Ukraine response. Perhaps some selective head hunting ?
Russian President Vladimir Putin says attacks on Ukraine infrastructure 'not all we could have done'
Posted 1h ago1 hours agoUkraine said Russia launched 55 cruise missiles on Monday but most were shot down.(AP: Russian Defense Ministry Press Service)
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Russian strikes on Ukrainian infrastructure on Monday were in part a response to a drone attack on the Black Sea fleet over the weekend, President Vladimir Putin has said during a news conference in Sochi, indicating more action could follow.
Key points:
- Russian strikes left 80 per cent of consumers in Kyiv without water and hundreds throughout Ukraine without power
- Ukraine said it shot down 45 cruise missiles Russia launched on Monday
- Russia says it will donate 25,000 tonnes of wheat to crisis-hit Lebanon
"That's not all we could have done," he told a televised news conference.
Russia sent a barrage of missiles over the weekend that hit critical infrastructure in Kyiv, Kharkiv and other cities.
Officials said 80 per cent of consumers in Kyiv were left without water supplies "due to the damage to a power facility" and hundreds of localities in seven Ukrainian regions were left without power.
Putin says attacks on Ukraine infrastructure 'not all we could have done'
Russian President Vladimir Putin says strikes on Ukrainian infrastructure were in part a response to a drone attack on the Black Sea fleet, indicating more action could follow.
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Battleaxes. Dominant. Impossible to live with. It’s just as well that they’re second-class citizens. See what happens when you give them a bit of power? Your Liz Truss! No woman has led Russia, except the crying woman Gorbachev. I like Margaret Thatcher though. Genuinely terrifying.
On the LGBTQ+ community
In Russia there are no lesbians, gays, bisexuals or transgender people. Never have been and never will be. We are all MEN, except for the women. And they are tougher than your weak, snivelling males. You listen to too much ABBA. Dancing Queen is the root of all your decadent Western problems.
On protestors
At every mass demonstration, whatever their banners say, what they are really shouting is ‘I need a haircut!’ Round them up like dogs. Shear them like sheep. I know Express readers agree with this. In fact, I think you crazy old bastards would press for harsher punishment even than me.
On Boris Johnson
It was a terrible thing that he was stabbed in the back. He was a true champion of Express readers and, if you know what I mean, a true friend to me. One of us. He will be back, of that I have no doubt. There must be some way I – sorry, I mean, you – can help him make Britain great again.
On the EU
I despise it. A threat to our sovereignty. No man can call himself a man if he is ordered about by Belgians, Like you, I did everything I could to help Britain leave it. But unlike you I don’t have to suffer the consequences but instead laugh heartily from Kremlin. Ha.
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