Ukraine War

[finicky]

? If/when this quietens down Australia should head-hunt on irresistible terms some of the top Ukrainian miltary strategists to analyse our defenses against China.

 

[sptrawler]

Read somewhere (forgot the link. Sorry) out one group of 30 "volunteer" prisioners recruited by Wagner only 15 survived the first encounter.

The survivors get another turn the next day, it's called on the job training.

 

[qldfrog]

? If/when this quietens down Australia should head-hunt on irresistible terms some of the top Ukrainian miltary strategists to analyse our defenses against China.

Call Washington and London ?

 

[Dona Ferentes]

you might think that Israel could reverse its decision not to supply their (very effective) Iron Dome defense system to Ukraine, at the very least to test it against the new spate of Iranian 'kamikaze' drones that have recently been supplied to the Russians. This would be a good bit of tech insurance, IMO, given the stated "Death to Israel" stuff the mullahs come out with.

 

[noirua]

Unfortunately the USA contains many Oligarchs as well, who made their fortunes in dubious ways. I prefer to get my information from reliable sources on twitter. With the smaller republics within the Russian federation erupting, Putin is in a world of pain as are his henchmen and propagandists.

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This is in no way a reflection on goats.

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German Police Raid Residence of Russian Oligarch Alisher Usmanov; Tax Evasion and Money Laundering Suspected

www.occrp.org

Outside of Russia, Usmanov is well known for acquiring a major stake in the U.K.’s Arsenal Football Club and for his investments in Apple and Facebook

Usmanov’s villa near Lake Tegernsee.

Usmanov’s personal Airbus A-340 jet.

The Dilbar has two helipads and 60 cabins and is one of the largest yachts in the world.

 

[Value Collector]

? If/when this quietens down Australia should head-hunt on irresistible terms some of the top Ukrainian miltary strategists to analyse our defenses against China.

I think the USA are providing a lot of intel and advice to the Ukrainian Army, so we should already have the benefit of the strategists behind the Ukraines.

On the topic of Military strategy, the USA/Pentagon must be loving this conflict from an academic perspective, it’s like the best war game / training exercise they could imagine where they get to put the Russian Army to the test in real life situations and monitor all their strengths and weaknesses.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

ICW always provides a measured view on things, raising interesting points, all gleaned from publicly available information. Today's effort drills down to the shortcomings with a campaign assessment special edition [that] focuses on Russian military mobilization efforts.

Institute for the Study of War

Russian President Vladimir Putin is unlikely to overcome fundamental structural challenges in attempting to mobilize large numbers of Russians to continue his war in Ukraine. The “partial mobilization” he ordered on September 21 will generate additional f

www.understandingwar.org

 

[JohnDe]

European countries becoming less reliant to Russian fuel blackmail.

Baltic Pipe: Norway-Poland gas pipeline opens in key move to cut dependency on Russia​

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Leaders from Poland, Norway and Denmark have attended a ceremony to mark the opening of the new Baltic Pipe, a key stage in the drive to wean Poland and Europe off Russian gas.​

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The pipeline will transport natural gas from the Norwegian shelf via Denmark and through the Baltic Sea to Poland. It is the centrepiece of a Polish strategy to diversify away from Russia that began years before Moscow’s February invasion of Ukraine triggered a global energy crisis.​

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The flows from Norway along with supplies via liquefied gas terminals are central to Poland's plan. The country was cut off from Russian gas supplies in April, allegedly for refusing to pay in roubles.​

 

[JohnDe]

Baltic Sea bubbles as Europe claims 'sabotage' on major undersea gas pipeline

 

[basilio]

The Russians are having trouble finding the 300,000 fit young cannon fodder requirements for their next push into Ukraine.

Many of them are fleeing the country to Georgia.

So. Simple Russian answer. Set up an enlistment centre at the Georgian border and conscript the fleerers into the army on the spot..

Be a shame if these enlistment centres were torched out like a number of others around Russia.

Satellite images show queues out of Russia stretching for kilometres

As Russian men line up for kilometres at border crossings to avoid President Vladimir Putin's mobilisation efforts, some have reportedly been issued draft notices at the Georgian border.

www.abc.net.au

Arson attacks on enlistment offices spike after Putin starts mobilization

A rash of fires broke out at Russian enlistment centers and government buildings in the wake of Wednesday's partial mobilization announcement.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Dona Ferentes]

The results of fake referendum in the occupied parts of Ukraine:
#Luhansk Obl. - 98.42% in favour of joining Russia
#Donetsk Obl. - 99.23% in favour
#Zaporizhzhia Obl. - 93.11% in favour
#Kherson Obl. - 87.05% in favour

...and yet no spontaneous expressions of joy breaking out in the streets!

 

[againsthegrain]

The results of fake referendum in the occupied parts of Ukraine:
#Luhansk Obl. - 98.42% in favour of joining Russia
#Donetsk Obl. - 99.23% in favour
#Zaporizhzhia Obl. - 93.11% in favour
#Kherson Obl. - 87.05% in favour

...and yet no spontaneous expressions of joy breaking out in the streets!

seems a bit low, no 101%?

 

[Value Collector]

won't be much trading if Russia uses nukes , the chances are they would multiple launch that's something over 2000 warheads plus some other nasty stuff basically used as decoys ( they know NATO will NOT use discipline or precision so will throw all the dice and see how many Russians survive )

I don’t know if they would launch multiple, that would surely mean the end of russia.

But they might test the resolve of the western nations but doing a small tactical bomb

 

[divs4ever]

I don’t know if they would launch multiple, that would surely mean the end of russia.

But they might test the resolve of the western nations but doing a small tactical bomb

i disagree , Russia has been incredibly patient so far , and the way things are going there is nothing they want ( except maybe the gold stockpiles ) in the West they have almost everything they need inside their own borders

send one and the West sends twenty , may as well launch them all and see how many ( NATO ) bases survive

 

[Value Collector]

i disagree , Russia has been incredibly patient so far , and the way things are going there is nothing they want ( except maybe the gold stockpiles ) in the West they have almost everything they need inside their own borders

send one and the West sends twenty , may as well launch them all and see how many ( NATO ) bases survive

I definitely wouldn’t call Russia's invasion patient.

In my opinion the war isn’t about them getting anything from the West, I believe it’s about them trying (and failing) to exert dominance and intimidate the west or maybe they are actual scared of NATO and really do want a buffer zone.

 

[divs4ever]

I definitely wouldn’t call Russia's invasion patient.

In my opinion the war isn’t about them getting anything from the West, I believe it’s about them trying (and failing) to exert dominance and intimidate the west or maybe they are actual scared of NATO and really do want a buffer zone.

well the civil war had been percolating since 2014 DESPITE a peace agreement signed by France , Germany and Ukraine , the other signatories had plenty of times to deescalate the the conflict , but no they gave

but it is interesting to see Ukraine shaping Western democratic values

maybe you would have preferred the NATO-style interventions such as Afghanistan , Iraq , Vietnam or Yugoslavia

 

[Value Collector]

well the civil war had been percolating since 2014 DESPITE a peace agreement signed by France , Germany and Ukraine , the other signatories had plenty of times to deescalate the the conflict , but no they gave

but it is interesting to see Ukraine shaping Western democratic values

maybe you would have preferred the NATO-style interventions such as Afghanistan , Iraq , Vietnam or Yugoslavia

Well I wouldn’t call it a civil war.

I think the only thing pretecting Russian troops in Ukraine from being obliterated by NATO forces is the Nuclear Threat, it’s pretty much the only card they are holding at this stage.

If they play the full Nuclear Card by launching a full nuclear strike with multiple Nukes it’s the end for them.

How ever they may decide to drop one small nuke basically as a warning shot over NATOs head, that might allow them to extend the game and scare off Ukraines supporters.

 

[InsvestoBoy]

the way things are going there is nothing they want ( except maybe the gold stockpiles ) in the West they have almost everything they need inside their own borders

Modern economies that are disconnected from the global economy are screwed.

If they want lives like Cuba (not that I support US sanction against Cuba) then they have "almost everything they need inside their own borders".

Otherwise, nope, it is not going to go well for them and it seems according to quite recent news that even they know this.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The list of impacts in the article is just staggering.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

Great day to announce a victory/ annexation, Vladolf:

Situation around Lyman - 30 Sep 11:00 local time:
- UA forces liberated Yampil and advancing north
- RU troops are reportedly abandoning its positions in Drobysheve
- The only exit route from Lyman is within the firing range of UA forces
- estimated 3,000 RU troops plus LNR/ DNR in the 'cauldron'

 

[sptrawler]

My guess Putin is going to get out, or get desperate.
The U.S by all reports, has given Putin a heads up, as to how far they are behind, on the weapons front.
Putin has told Xi, Xi has gone well it isn't looking good for you Vlad, let us know how it goes.
Just my two cents worth.