U.S. Presidential Election 2020

[basilio]

The US can anticipate critical international assistance with ensuring its election is free and fair and well run.

Iraq Sends Independent Observers To Monitor US Election

Iraq has sent thousands of independent observers to the US to help build public confidence in the struggling nation’s upcoming election.

Iraqi officials said there were some signs of democracy in the United States, but noted that the country still had a long way to go in its goal of running fair and safe elections.

“As America hopefully moves towards democracy, we want to help out in whatever way we can,” an Iraqi spokesperson said.

He said the nation of 320 million people has a long history of war, civil unrest, corruption and poverty, and that many groups had been excluded from voting for generations. “We know from experience that democracy can struggle in these environments”.

The observers will not be armed although it is expected that many of the voters will be.

Iraq Sends Independent Observers To Monitor US Election — The Shovel

"The country is besieged by corruption, civil unrest and violence. We want to help bring democracy to this struggling nation".

www.theshovel.com.au

 

[Craton]

So much has been said about this POTUS and a lot has been said by the POTUS himself. I'll just add a little more...

Trump has worked extremely hard to create a deeply divided and divisive country. From my perspective I think internationally too.
His tactics of fear and blame shifting, falsehoods and avoidance, nay saying and stacking the house in his favour may all very well keep him in good stead with this election.

But surely, surely the majority of USA citizen's have fully grokked the real Trump by now?
Surely they've seen, heard and had enough and they will vote this megalomaniac spin-doctoring, lie to win at any cost, poor example of what a leader should be out of the White House?
Surely?

My glass is half full...

 

[Joe Blow]

I have commenced closing most threads on US politics but will leave this one open until after the election.

After that I am considering banning US political discussion from ASF entirely.

 

[basilio]

Something to think about in terms of Trumps response to losing the election.
Theoretically this may seem implausible and over the top.

Then I remembered what I had seen in the Bio op on Dick Chaney.

It's called VICE (Dick Chaney was VP to George Bush). Essentially outlined the playbook.

How Trump Could Attempt a Coup
The Biden team is preparing for the worst. Here are three possible scenarios.

A wretched presidential campaign has played out at last, but Election Day is not how this story ends. Unable to overtake his opponent in the polls, Donald Trump decided months ago to run against the election itself. That race does not conclude when the ballots are counted. Trump has raged against fictional plots to steal his victory, maligning routine procedures such as voting by mail and counting ballots until there are no more to count. His rage will not diminish if he is defeated.

Our electoral system was not built to withstand a sustained assault on its legitimacy. We are capable of defending it, but that is a collective enterprise. A healthy start would be to recognize that the assault has yet to begin in earnest. Election Day and the period to follow will be moments of maximum temptation for Trump. Can he find a way to interfere with the tabulation of votes? Impound ballots in the mail? Dispatch armed personnel to quell alleged disturbances in Democratic neighborhoods?
The battle for American democracy will not be fully joined until the counting starts. That’s when Trump will tell us that his predictions have come true—that the whole procedure is rife with fraud, that the tally is rigged against him, and that no one can be trusted except Trump himself to tell us who won and who lost. The vital questions are whether and how he will try to use his power to subvert the result

Whether, I think, is easy. We have been over this before. Trump will not concede defeat. He will use every means at his disposal to maintain a grip on power.

How Trump Could Attempt a Coup

The Biden team is preparing for the worst. Here are three possible scenarios.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Joe Blow]

Bas, all these partisan articles from third party sources are getting a little tiring, and I haven't even been reading them. You're posting with all the enthusiasm and efficiency of a paid Russian bot, but you're not really adding anything of value.

How about posting your own thoughts instead of these partisan articles? It's becoming very boring and tedious watching you pump these out.

 

[basilio]

The elements outlined in the above scenarios are already taking place.

US braces for historic election amid fears democracy is in danger
Biden calls for restoration of America’s character as Trump baselessly stokes fears about vote count


...Trump stepped up his demand for the vote count in the battleground state of Pennsylvania to end on election night, before most of the state’s postal ballots have been counted, and he railed against the supreme court, which had turned down a Republican lawsuit seeking to cut off the count.

“The Supreme Court decision on voting in Pennsylvania is a VERY dangerous one. It will allow rampant and unchecked cheating and will undermine our entire systems of laws. It will also induce violence in the streets. Something must be done!” the president said.

US braces for historic election amid fears democracy is in danger

Biden calls for restoration of America’s character as Trump baselessly stokes fears about vote count

www.theguardian.com

 

[moXJO]

I have commenced closing most threads on US politics but will leave this one open until after the election.

After that I am considering banning US political discussion from ASF entirely.

If Trump wins again, then definitely do it.

 

[PZ99]

It probably won't do anything unless all political discussion is banned otherwise US politics will merely find its way into the other political threads anyway. Might be better to just blow up the neighborhood

 

[Joe Blow]

It probably won't do anything unless all political discussion is banned otherwise US politics will merely find its way into the other political threads anyway. Might be better to just blow up the neighborhood

I think you're probably right. It's becoming very clear what needs to happen in order to solve this situation. A small handful of people who simply cannot stop pushing partisan political agendas need to be shown the door and escorted off the premises.

 

[basilio]

Bas, all these partisan articles from third party sources are getting a little tiring, and I haven't even been reading them. You're posting with all the enthusiasm and efficiency of a paid Russian bot, but you're not really adding anything of value.

How about posting your own thoughts instead of these partisan articles? It's becoming very boring and tedious watching you pump these out.

That is sad.. And here I was thinking I was offering a number of constructive , interesting perspectives on what is the most critical election the US and the world has faced to date. Just because I didn't write them doesn't mean they are not of far better value.

Posting my own thoughts ? OK why not

I reject the statement that that I am posting "partisan articles from third party sources" . The Atlantic, CNN, BBC, The ABC, The Guardian, Politico The Hill. Even Fox News ? Should I include Briebart or perhaps the Trump approved media as a reading source ? My view, which I believe is shared by a very large number of people across all walks of life and experience, is that Donald Trump is one of the most dangerous, lying, self promoting , sociopathitic demagods who has ever ventered into US politics.

That view is informed by

• The relentless stream of lies and misinformation Trump has inflicted since he announced his inauguration was the biggest in US history
• The evidence that many members of his administration had been actively engaged in working with Russian sources to gain political advantage in the last election and the current one
• Multiple public reports/books from Trump staff who have noted how Trump is ill informed, incompetant and utterly unsuitable for office.
• Whistle blower diplomats who highlighted Trumps attempt to use his Presidential office for personal political goals ie making up dirt on Biden
• A stream of life time Republician supporters who have worked on Republician platforms for decades who completly reject Trump and his behaviours as acceptable. Many of these have actively campaigned against the President in a way that has never been seen in US politics before. That is big
• The use of the Presidency to enrich Trumps personal wealth in complete disregard for the ethics of goveranance.

This isn't the place for a book so lets stop there.

As far as "posting like a Russian Bot" ? Really ? Perhaps one might like to check out the numerous Twitter references favoured by posters with the other perspective. The ones relentlessly trying to drum up a belief that Biden is corrupt because somehow the stinkiest computer story in the world has only been promoted across the right wing blogosphere ( and here of course) .

What above the repeated, repeated efforts to show Biden is demented by using doctored videos ? Pointing out that these videos are manipulated doesn't cut any ice here of course because, after all, "who cares" ? And anyway the organisations debunking them are - MSM aren't they?

Same goes for posts that try to gin up Trumps position in the polls - by using data that 7 months old and pretending its still relevant.

Sometimes trying to be "even handed" doesn't work. Some situations are overwhelmingly weighted in one direction or another. This is one such issue.

I'm not at ease with trying to pretend otherwise and ignoring overwhelming evidence of dangerous situations. The current situation with the political situation in the US and its implications for all of us, in every way, is why I take the trouble to research, post and debunk on ASF.

Cheers

Bas

 

[PZ99]

This is the one I look at - also up to date...

Minus 25 for Biden since I last looked

Biden vs Trump: live results 2020

Map and results of the US presidential and congressional elections

ig.ft.com

 

[basilio]

I thought this site offered a creative way to see the voting scenarios in the US election

2020 Election Forecast

Latest forecast of the 2020 presidential election between President Donald Trump and Joe Biden by Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

 

[moXJO]

Its ok Joe. Once Biden wins no one is talking US politics anymore.

 

[Lucky777]

Bet about $1k for Trump win

 

[Lucky777]

My 2c

Coming from a younger dude, we generally consume media from different websites - YouTube, Reddit, Twitch, Instagram and Facebook. Majority favour Trump now, we see the facts of his foreign policy, economic handling and his general view of making America great again - who wants China #1? Unless you sell your soul haha.

There are even political channels on YouTube covering this - Tim Pool is a journalist from Vice who was a previous democrat voter. He has over 3 million subscribers on his three channels covering the elections. The left has controlled media and the internet and it has gone down the emotional path that averts your attention to the facts. Facts don’t lie. It is fake news. Trump has been great, we will see who wins tomorrow. Good luck to all, I would say these elections really are life changing as we will see the end of cancel culture and the progressive left destroying true values day by day for socialist idealistic Marxism.

 

[PZ99]

Bet about $1k for Trump win

This election or the last ?

 

[Joe Blow]

I have tidied up this thread a little and moved a number of posts to another thread. They can now be found here.

 

[DB008]

Bet about $1k for Trump win

British gambler bets $5 million on Trump in biggest-ever political wager​

A British gambler has reportedly staked $5 million on President Trump winning Tuesday’s election — a wager believed to be the largest-ever political bet.​

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The former banker used private bookmakers registered on the Caribbean island of Curacao for the bet at odds of 37/20 — meaning he could get a $15 million payout, sources told the Sun.​

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The mystery gambler confidently went all-in after consulting with “Trump camp insiders,” according to the report.​

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“Word of this bet has done the rounds and we think it’s the biggest ever made on politics,” one betting industry source told the UK paper.​

https://nypost.com/2020/11/03/mystery-brit-gambles-5m-on-trump-win-in-record-setting-bet/






Presidential Election Results


https://www.foxnews.com/elections/2020/general-results


https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html


https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/2020/#!



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[PZ99]

Live update linky thingy > https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/

US market seems to have made up its mind between red and blue by going a bit green

 

[spooly74]

Florida looks locked up for Trump early.
He's ~150K up and growing.
Finished 113K up in 2016.