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U.S. Presidential Election 2020

Who will win the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 12 44.4%
  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 15 55.6%
  • Kanye West

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
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The Guardian (like many other publications) has published an Editorial on why they believe Trump must be dumped.
Very powerful summary of the legacy this man has created in 4 short years.
The Guardian view on the 2020 US elections It’s time to dump Trump. America’s only hope is Joe Biden
Four years of deranged and unpredictable behaviour is proof that the current US president is uniquely unsuited to the job

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Donald Trump’s presidency has been a horror show that is ending with a pandemic that is out of control, an economic recession and deepening political polarisation. Mr Trump is the author of this disastrous denouement. He is also the political leader least equipped to deal with it. Democracy in the United States has been damaged by Mr Trump’s first term. It may not survive four more years.

If the Guardian had a vote, it would be cast to elect Joe Biden as president next Tuesday. Mr Biden has what it takes to lead the United States. Mr Trump does not. Mr Biden cares about his nation’s history, its people, its constitutional principles and its place in the world. Mr Trump does not. Mr Biden wants to unite a divided country. Mr Trump stokes an anger that is wearing it down.

The Republican presidential nominee is not, and has never been, a fit and proper person for the presidency. He has been accused of rape. He displays a brazen disregard for legal norms. In office, he has propagated lies and ignorance. It is astonishing that his financial interests appear to sway his outlook on the national interest. His government is cruel and mean. It effectively sanctioned the kidnapping and orphaning of migrant children by detaining them and deporting their parents. He has vilified whistleblowers and venerated war criminals.

Mr Trump trades in racism, misogyny, homophobia and transphobia. Telling the Proud Boys, a far-right group that has endorsed violence, to “stand back and stand by” was, in the words of Mr Biden, “a dog whistle about as big as a foghorn”. From the Muslim ban to building a wall on the Mexican border, the president is grounding his base in white supremacy. With an agenda of corporate deregulation and tax giveaways for the rich, Mr Trump is filling the swamp, not draining it.
 
The Guardian (like many other publications) has published an Editorial on why they believe Trump must be dumped.
Very powerful summary of the legacy this man has created in 4 short years.
The Guardian view on the 2020 US elections It’s time to dump Trump. America’s only hope is Joe Biden
Four years of deranged and unpredictable behaviour is proof that the current US president is uniquely unsuited to the job

Tue 27 Oct 2020 14.30 EDT Last modified on Tue 27 Oct 2020 20.57 ED
633

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797

Donald Trump’s presidency has been a horror show that is ending with a pandemic that is out of control, an economic recession and deepening political polarisation. Mr Trump is the author of this disastrous denouement. He is also the political leader least equipped to deal with it. Democracy in the United States has been damaged by Mr Trump’s first term. It may not survive four more years.

If the Guardian had a vote, it would be cast to elect Joe Biden as president next Tuesday. Mr Biden has what it takes to lead the United States. Mr Trump does not. Mr Biden cares about his nation’s history, its people, its constitutional principles and its place in the world. Mr Trump does not. Mr Biden wants to unite a divided country. Mr Trump stokes an anger that is wearing it down.

The Republican presidential nominee is not, and has never been, a fit and proper person for the presidency. He has been accused of rape. He displays a brazen disregard for legal norms. In office, he has propagated lies and ignorance. It is astonishing that his financial interests appear to sway his outlook on the national interest. His government is cruel and mean. It effectively sanctioned the kidnapping and orphaning of migrant children by detaining them and deporting their parents. He has vilified whistleblowers and venerated war criminals.

Mr Trump trades in racism, misogyny, homophobia and transphobia. Telling the Proud Boys, a far-right group that has endorsed violence, to “stand back and stand by” was, in the words of Mr Biden, “a dog whistle about as big as a foghorn”. From the Muslim ban to building a wall on the Mexican border, the president is grounding his base in white supremacy. With an agenda of corporate deregulation and tax giveaways for the rich, Mr Trump is filling the swamp, not draining it.
You didn't really need to post that considering we absolutely know who the guardian is going to tell people to vote.
Not to mention the amount of bullsht in this article.
 
Pretty sure these are registered Dem or Rep voters numbers. Whats they put on the ballot not known but can't imagine any Reps voting blue. Not sure you could say the same for the Dems, especially in other states with the "End the oil industry" comment from Sleepy.


Bit of a worry on some red States flipping blue.
They are being targeted with money, celebs and vote chasers.
 
Bit of a worry on some red States flipping blue.
They are being targeted with money, celebs and vote chasers.
Possibly only PA.
But BLM & Antifa doing their best to get Trump over the line there.

and this ...
https://nytimes.com/2020/10/25/us/politics/pennsylvania-polls-biden-trump.html…
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every Republican has become a bigoted , brainless, Trump voting zombie just itching to vote this psychopathic criminal into power again to "complete the job" ?

That's what a bad case of T D S looks like folks.
 
You didn't really need to post that considering we absolutely know who the guardian is going to tell people to vote.
Not to mention the amount of bullsht in this article.

Bit more gas lighting there Moxy ? "Trump dun nothing wrong". Biden is senile. Look at Hunter ! xshite.

For the sake of evenhandedness on the topic of media editorials re the election let's look at USA Today views.

Background on USA Today.

Four years ago, the Editorial Board — an ideologically and demographically diverse group of journalists that is separate from the news staff and operates by consensus — broke with tradition and took sides in the presidential race for the first time since USA TODAY was founded in 1982. We urged readers not to vote for Donald Trump, calling the Republican nominee unfit for office because he lacked the “temperament, knowledge, steadiness and honesty that America needs from its presidents.” We stopped short, however, of an outright endorsement of Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee. This year, the Editorial Board unanimously supports the election of Joe Biden, who offers a shaken nation a harbor of calm and competence.

It is a very detailed editorial , in fact, far more of an indepth journalistic review of the two candidates.
They are evenhanded enough to give Mike Pence a column to explain why he thinks Donald Trump should be voted in

.Recent polls show that more than 90% of voters have decided between Biden and Trump, and nothing at this point will change their minds. This editorial is for those of you who are still uncertain about which candidate to vote for, or whether to vote at all. It’s also for those who settled on Trump but might be having last-minute doubts.
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Maybe you backed Trump the last time around because you hoped he’d shake things up in Washington or bring back blue-collar jobs. Maybe you liked his populist, anti-elitist message. Maybe you couldn’t stomach the idea of supporting a Democrat as polarizing as Clinton. Maybe you cast a ballot for a minor party candidate, or just stayed home.

Now, two weeks until Election Day, we suggest you consider a variation of the question Republican Ronald Reagan asked voters when he ran for president in 1980: Is America better off now than it was four years ago? Beset by disease, economic suffering, a racial reckoning and natural disasters fueled by a changing climate, the nation is dangerously off course. We spoke to dozens of people in Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin, battleground states that helped propel Trump into the White House in 2016. Many declined to comment, citing a general disgust with the election or fear of speaking out publicly. While some said they were personally better off, most of those willing to talk on camera expressed anguish and dismay about the nation's direction:

 
How are suburban women viewing Trump in 2020?
Apparently this was a key demographic which brought Trump into office. This time though ... the figures are changing.
 
The USA Today Editorial Board offers a very powerful argument for its first time decision to endorse Joe Biden for Presidency.

The Backstory: The Editorial Board, independent from newsroom, endorsed Joe Biden. Here's why.

The USA TODAY Editorial Board has never endorsed a candidate for president. Until now. 'This is not a normal election, and these are not normal times.'
Nicole Carroll, USA TODAY
Updated 9:15 p.m. AEDT Oct. 20, 2020

I'm USA TODAY editor-in-chief Nicole Carroll, and this is The Backstory, insights into our biggest stories of the week. If you'd like to get The Backstory free in your inbox every week, sign up here.

In its 38 years of existence, the USA TODAY Editorial Board has never endorsed a candidate for president. The nonpartisan board hasn’t recommended a nominee. Until now.

Today, the USA TODAY Editorial Board, which is separate from the news department, endorsed Joe Biden for president.

"We don't do this eagerly," said editorial page editor Bill Sternberg. "We hope we don't have to do it again, but it seems like one of those break-glass moments where there's a clear and present danger and there's a clear choice."

Endorsements, all editorials, aren't meant to lecture. They're meant to put forth a well-considered viewpoint, grounded in the facts, to spur conversation. The closest the board ever came to an endorsement was in 2016, when it urged voters to reject Donald Trump, but did not endorse any other candidate.

As editor-in-chief, I oversee the newsroom, but I do not sit on the Editorial Board. News and editorial are separate groups, working independently of each other. News reporters provide facts, background and context. Editorial Board members offer all that, but also their educated opinions and thought leadership. The two groups do not have any influence over each other.

The nonpartisan USA TODAY Editorial Board is known for being balanced in its views. That doesn’t mean the editors avoid sharp opinions, it means they offer a variety of viewpoints, including today’s Opposing View by Vice President Mike Pence. Nonpartisan means the board has no formal or informal connections to either the Republican or Democratic parties. Traditionally, it has supported policies put forth by both parties.

USA TODAY Editorial Board on Biden endorsement: 'Trump has trampled on ... values'

For the first time in USA TODAY's history, the Editorial Board is endorsing a presidential candidate. Several board members explain why.

USA TODAY

Sternberg said the board hasn’t endorsed in the past because major parties have put up qualified candidates with political differences.

That’s not so this year, the endorsement says: “If this were a choice between two capable major party nominees who happened to have opposing ideas, we wouldn’t choose sides. Different voters have different concerns. But this is not a normal election, and these are not normal times. This year, character, competence and credibility are on the ballot. Given Trump’s refusal to guarantee a peaceful transfer of power if he loses, so, too, is the future of America's democracy.”

Sternberg said he also considered the core values of the board: "Honesty, accountability, civil discourse, common sense, common-ground solutions to the nation's problems, opposition to racism, steadfast support for the First Amendment. These aren't partisan values. They shouldn't be partisan values. But in each case, Donald Trump has trampled on those values, and Joe Biden would respect those values."


The 10-member Editorial Board includes conservatives, liberals and centrists. Eileen Rivers served in military intelligence in Kuwait. Thuan Le Elston came to America as a child refugee of the Vietnam War. David Mastio moved to Washington in 1994 to be part of the Republican Revolution. Sternberg was the longtime USA TODAY Washington editor before moving to the opinion department in 2005.

Mastio, the deputy opinion editor, said he hopes people consider the board's centrist, nonpartisan track record as they read today's endorsement.

"We're not an ideological Editorial Board out to impose our views on other people," he said. "We're saying this is a national emergency. This is a president like no other who has been uniquely awful, both personally and professionally. And we need to do something about it."
 
The Linclon Project always manages to skewer Trumpism in all its forms.
Check this one out.

October 24, 2020 — Today, the Lincoln Project is releasing a new video, “Yes,” starring Colorado Senator Cory Gardner, a notorious Trump ‘yes-man’.

During a debate on Tuesday, incumbent Senator Cory Gardner was asked if he felt President Trump was a moral and ethical man. Gardner paused for only a brief moment, but surely long enough to consider the 545 children who were separated from their now-lost parents at the Southern border, the over 222,000 COVID-19 patients that have died, the numerous Gold Star families whose sacrifices Trump has glossed over, calling their relatives “suckers” and “losers”, and the dozens of women he’s sexually harassed in one way or another. After such consideration, Gardner answers “Yes” as he always has when it comes to Trump.

“Cory Gardner is an embarrassment to Colorado,” said Reed Galen, co-founder of the Lincoln Project. “His votes agree with Trump nearly 90% of the time. It’s clear the man can’t think for himself, which may explain why he thinks Trump is moral and ethical. That, or, he doesn’t know what those words mean.”

Luckily for Coloradans, Gardner is also on the November 3rd ballot. Unfortunately for him, he’s up against John Hickenlooper – an actual moral and ethical man who proved himself a thoughtful, independent leader for all during his time as Governor. Defeating Trump means defeating his enablers as well, which is bad news for a lackey like Gardner.
 
The Lincoln Project ads make the Dems look xiss poor.
Brilliant.




Starting their own media company so I've been told.

Unfortunately both Democrat and Republican supporters hate them. So I don't know who's watching it once Trump is gone.
 
Unfortunately both Democrat and Republican supporters hate them.

Che ?? Says who ?? Clearly not the many Republicans who don't want a bar of Trump and are delighted to have a clearly Republican voice reflect their concern

And I'm certain any Democrat appreciates such single minded efforts to turn votes their way in this election.

The Lincoln Project won't become an arm of the Dems after this election. It's mission is to destroy Trump and Trumpism and help recraft the Republican Party after this is achieved. :2twocents
 
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The Lincoln Project won't become an arm of the Dems after this election. It's mission is to destroy Trump and Trumpism and help recraft the Republican Party after this is achieved. :2twocents

They are grifters. Everyone knows it. Well maybe you missed the memo.
 
The Lincoln Project ads make the Dems look xiss poor.
Brilliant.



Brilliance, so simple and to the point, no he said, she said, falses, fake news, just reality.

I wish the world would stop thinking in black and white and rather shades of grey in politics. The divisiveness Chump has created is and will be his downfalling. Whether it is today, tomorrow or in a decade, this is the legacy he will leave,. Dividing the people of a nation.
 
Brilliance, so simple and to the point, no he said, she said, falses, fake news, just reality.

I wish the world would stop thinking in black and white and rather shades of grey in politics. The divisiveness Chump has created is and will be his downfalling. Whether it is today, tomorrow or in a decade, this is the legacy he will leave,. Dividing the people of a nation.
I think it's the media that has caused the divisiveness, to be honest.

Let's look at the difference in response between Biden's and Trump's (both real and fake on both counts) misdemeanours.

Chaulk and Cheese.

That's not commentary on the virtues and foibles of either, just the narrative created.

Just look at the muck lather our resident ASF propagandist has worked himself into, and the denial of any faults regarding the other candidate.

Be careful who is inside your mind folks.

Said with love
 
I think it's the media that has caused the divisiveness, to be honest.

Let's look at the difference in response between Biden's and Trump's (both real and fake on both counts) misdemeanours.

Chaulk and Cheese.

That's not commentary on the virtues and foibles of either, just the narrative created.

Just look at the muck lather our resident ASF propagandist has worked himself into, and the denial of any faults regarding the other candidate.

Be careful who is inside your mind folks.

Said with love

Wayne please consider outside what is in your mind. Agree with your narrative, but the media has always controlled the masses.
 
I found this an easy-to-read summary of economic indicators over the past six presidencies. Perhaps a bit simplistic for the financial whizzes in ASF, but hopefully some find this useful.

BTW, I've always thought the US president gets too much credit, and too much blame, for the economy. I've often felt other players, such as the Federal Reserve Board Chairman, have a greater influence.

For 2021 and beyond, I think the US economy will be best served by a president who will have a solid plan to address the pandemic, as I believe this is the quickest road to recovery. Happy to be corrected though...not necessarily on who you think will be the better president - clearly we all have our own strong opinions in this thread - but rather the factors that will improve the US (and global) economy the quickest.

 
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