U.S. Presidential Election 2020

[moXJO]

Interesting.. I followed up the reference and , in fact, there were very good reasons why these discrepancies haven't been in mainstream media.

They mean absolutely nothing. Still worth a read though to learn more about the processes of checking and rechecking votes.
I suggest someone "cherry picked" a couple of useful figures when trying to drum up support for mistrusting the election.

State House Dome: Recounts 'find' votes, not fraud in NH

THERE IS NO evidence of widespread voter fraud in New Hampshire.
It is also true that nearly every election recount “finds” votes.
(Then more explanations of what they did and found)

.... When the recount was complete, Avard had 17,534 votes to 16,729 for Levesque.
The victory margin was 805 votes, exactly the same as before the recount.

State House Dome: Recounts 'find' votes, not fraud in NH

THERE IS NO evidence of widespread voter fraud in New Hampshire.

www.unionleader.com

All the discrepancies were against gop. Thousands of votes suddenly being found. Not to mention recorded ballot counts in 72% of Detroit's absentee voting precincts didn't match the number of ballots cast.

In saying that I don't think there was widespread fraud. I think there was widespread ballot harvesting and granny farming. Thats a grey area that is legal to a point.
Its hard finding a good breakdown of actual numbers. Not the skim counts the mainstream are using. But I can't see Trump winning off what I can find.

Gop simply didn’t have a good mail in ballot strategy. They should have used ballot harvesters or need to start getting their sht together for similar tactics to the dems. This was one of the biggest elections and voter turnout I've seen. Also one of the most suss I've seen in a long time.

 

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[basilio]

All the discrepancies were against gop. Thousands of votes suddenly being found. Not to mention recorded ballot counts in 72% of Detroit's absentee voting precincts didn't match the number of ballots cast.

In saying that I don't think there was widespread fraud. I think there was widespread ballot harvesting and granny farming. Thats a grey area that is legal to a point.
Its hard finding a good breakdown of actual numbers. Not the skim counts the mainstream are using. But I can't see Trump winning off what I can find.

Gop simply didn’t have a good mail in ballot strategy. They should have used ballot harvesters or need to start getting their sht together for similar tactics to the dems. This was one of the biggest elections and voter turnout I've seen. Also one of the most suss I've seen in a long time.

Yeah no..
They only reason why this ridiculous conversation about electoral fraud is running is because Donald Trump decided from the beginning of his run that the only way he could lose was by electoral fraud. He ran that line in 2016 but of course he won. So there couldn't have been fraud could there ?

In 2020 he sowed the seeds of "electoral fraud" from the start of his campaign. This was the "only way he was going to lose". He watered those seeds at every opportunity creating the mindset amongst supporters that "if he lost it was all rigged".

The election came. Trump (not necessarily the Republican Party ) suffered a clear loss. The margins in all the seats are far too big to overcome with minor electoral vote issues.

And so true to his word from day one post election Trump has insisted it was all rigged. That is just a gigantic lie.
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The Cyber Section Department of Homeland Security was entrusted with ensuring the US electoral system was secure and transparent . Processes were overhauled to protect computer systems, ensure voting procedures were transparent, recorded and verifiable. Chris Kebbs as Head of the Department was recognised by all politicians as having done a particularly good job of safeguarding the electoral system.

After the election when Trump made up his stories of malfeasance Chris addressed each issue on line and showed the misunderstandings or straight out untruths.

Chris, as he predicted, was sacked by Trump for ensuring a free and fair election.

So in 2020 we have the President of the US refusing to accept the results of a sweeping election loss, denouncing any and all election officials who presided over the election and creating an army of voters who now believe he was robbed.

I believe Donald Trump deserves to have his day in court and be given the opportunity under oath to prove how he was robbed of this election. And Jenna Ellis should be there alongside him as his Legal Counsel providing that evidence. Let's get to the bottom of this story.

 

[basilio]

This is the current state of the legal proceedings Trump is using to prove electoral fraud.

There are a number of other stories on ABC news that examine the efforts to challenge the eelction results.

Infighting and an attempted 'coup': Trump team erupts into chaos as Giuliani takes over legal efforts

President Trump's campaign and legal teams have descended into chaos behind the scenes as many brace for the end of the post-election fight.

abcnews.go.com

 

[basilio]

View attachment 114903​

BIGLY Lying.

It's a SHAME I can't make these Fonts as Big as Jenna Ellis BIG LIES.
Lets see Jenna stand up in a Court of Law next to Donald Trump on Oath and prove a case for a Rigged election.

And then face the consequences.

 

[dutchie]

View attachment 114903​

That sums up the last four years very well.
A lot of hypocrites around here.

 

[IFocus]

All the discrepancies were against gop. Thousands of votes suddenly being found. Not to mention recorded ballot counts in 72% of Detroit's absentee voting precincts didn't match the number of ballots cast.

In saying that I don't think there was widespread fraud. I think there was widespread ballot harvesting and granny farming. Thats a grey area that is legal to a point.
Its hard finding a good breakdown of actual numbers. Not the skim counts the mainstream are using. But I can't see Trump winning off what I can find.

Gop simply didn’t have a good mail in ballot strategy. They should have used ballot harvesters or need to start getting their sht together for similar tactics to the dems. This was one of the biggest elections and voter turnout I've seen. Also one of the most suss I've seen in a long time.

Simple test of voter fraud.

Senate and Congress election were conducted at the same time, same way?

Where is the claims of fraud about that?

End of discussion, seriously.

 

[orr]

It's glorious to watch the Herculean effort put into the maintenance of obsessive delusion against objective reality ... And then you come along Focus and swat it like a knat...

 

[basilio]

It's glorious to watch the Herculean effort put into the maintenance of obsessive delusion against objective reality ... And then you come along Focus and swat it like a knat...

Maybe. But I suggest you check out the Republican philosophy of " When you are in power you creating your own reality" .
Espoused by Dick Cheney as VP to George Bush and brought to full bloom by Donald Trump. (Check out VICE on Netflix..)

On all the evidence to date I see little chance of many posters on ASF ever accepting even the most concrete realities (like these election results) when it conflicts with Trumps truths. The fact that 40 million plus Americans now truly believe the election was rigged and Trump lost unfairly is on par with the biggest lies of history.

 

[moXJO]

Parroting the latest twitter leftist line while ignoring GA.

And I'm sorry but this election was rigged via mail ins. Its not happened on that scale before.

Bas once again you ignore that numbers. This Idiotic thinking of: "“Trump is stupid for wanting recounts, audits and observers.”. When the counts have been this close and now we find thousands of ballots in counties. We had one actually change hands. Its close and could change seats for some.

Orr you are a leftist dope. Ifocus I doubt you understand much beyond the one liners coming out. And Bas well you are about as partial as Isis. You parrot stuff thinking it somehow absolves everything. You post irrelevant rubbish to try and prove what? The numbers I posted was a lie... How about just posting numbers. Oh and the computer system they use is different for different states. There were glitches and human errors.

Once again for you band of idiots. I believe Biden won it through a legal but very grey technique.

But there are discrepancies in the vote count and some dodgy dealings. I also think this has been going on for a while. Look at bush and gore.

Anyway another lodging a complaint. They would need forensics on the ballots.
Needs to be proven true. If Trump gets an audit it will be interesting.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18632787/6/4/wood-v-raffensperger/




Most likely just a ballot harvester. US voting system definitely has some loopholes.

But so does Australia.

 

[IFocus]

Mo, I do not think either side is pure but you are failing simple tests such as the GOP and Trump are not disputing the seats won by GOP Senators and those in Congress.

How strange?

Wasn't it the same election or did it all happen on a different day and there were no mail in ballots for that part?

Then there is voter suppression taken to new levels this election.

How about GOP gerrymander.

And you believe ballot assistance stole the election, or ballots suddenly found stole the election.

US politics is really bent, GOP = white hats / Democrats = black hats ....yeah nah.

Trumps / GOP behaviour is seeking to delegitimise the Biden presidency but the real casualty is US democracy, thank god those idols don't reign here in Oz.

Last word from me its gotten beyond the absurd.

 

[derangedlawyer]

Don't be silly. They are reporting on court cases that have been thrown out or withdrawn. You can check them yourself if you doubt the veracity of the articles.

Well, have you? He just won a lawsuit in PA and a lot of the fraud cases aren't even from his team - they're independent private lawsuits from citizens. Also the lawsuits are allegeing impropriety - not fraud. And plenty of proof of the former.

 

[satanoperca]

Well, have you? He just won a lawsuit in PA and a lot of the fraud cases aren't even from his team - they're independent private lawsuits from citizens. Also the lawsuits are allegeing impropriety - not fraud. And plenty of proof of the former.

Please provide some references to your statements.

 

[wayneL]

Please provide some references to your statements.

I'm not sure of a blow by blow commentary really serves much apart from a bit of mutual trolling and entertainment.

All the behind the scenes crap is rather opaque for us plebeians so we really need to see what washes out in the end, at the end.

It is only then whether we shall see a glorious future under the God Emperor, or a postmodern nightmare and the Whitehouse episode of Weekend at Bernie's.

 

[satanoperca]

It is only then whether we shall see a glorious future under the God Emperor, or a postmodern nightmare and the Whitehouse episode of Weekend at Bernie's.

Your statement is biased, no different to the media.

If the god emperor stays in power, wonderful, but if those others get in power, we are all f---kd.

Don't you see the hypocrisy of your statement?

Ie " President Donald Trump’s campaign has filed yet another version of its lawsuit over the election results in Pennsylvania, now contending that he should be named the victor in the presidential contest there or that the state legislature be given the authority to assign the state’s 20 electoral votes. "
He filed another one as he has lost 29 out of 29.

 

[wayneL]

Your statement is biased, no different to the media.

If the god emperor stays in power, wonderful, but if those others get in power, we are all f---kd.

Don't you see the hypocrisy of your statement?

Ie " President Donald Trump’s campaign has filed yet another version of its lawsuit over the election results in Pennsylvania, now contending that he should be named the victor in the presidential contest there or that the state legislature be given the authority to assign the state’s 20 electoral votes. "
He filed another one as he has lost 29 out of 29.

You didn't see the the satirical value in my post?

I'm gutted.

 

[satanoperca]

I understand 1's and 0's

 

[wayneL]

I understand 1's and 0's

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[PZ99]

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[wayneL]

The plot thickens. There are some pretty heavy duty legal reputations on the line here. If this is all bunkum and just a dog and pony show, then Sidney and Lin's reputations are cactus.

There is also The curious case of the dog that barked in the night, ie it didn't bark (Kamala has not resigned her senate seat).