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U.S. Presidential Election 2020

Who will win the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 12 44.4%

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 15 55.6%

  • Kanye West

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
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SirRumpole said:
I don't think so. As long as they are postmarked on or before election day they are valid.
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That's it. End of story. Some states allow a few days for late mail to come in. From my understanding the vast majority of mail ins arrived before election day becasue people wanted to make sure they get in. After all Trump was already trying to nobble the US Post Office.

The Repubs were trying to argue that votes received after the election even if they had been mailed before hand should be excluded. In fact any votes that came in this form were counted but also identified and put aside - just in case they would be deemed invalid.

However even excluding these votes has to have the premise that they would have affected the outcome. If 4000 arrived late but the final winning margin is 40,000 votes then clearly these votes do not impact on the final result.

I have no idea where Lucky is getting info that Pennsylvania has late votes that were not postmarked early. Perhaps they do. So exactly how many are there ? We can be very confident that the Republican scrutineers would be on such votes in a flash. Dems as well I reckon. But I cannot see any way such votes getting past the checkers in the first place - and certainly not 20,000 plus. At last count Biden was 41,000 votes ahead and still pulling away. (there is a possibility that overseas late arriving votes could swing back to Trump. But the lead is now so big that has been deemed impossible.)

All properly made votes received on the day or before hand are valid and must be counted. The only way I can see a case being made is to somehow "invalidate" hundreds of thousands of Biden votes across 3-4 states to enable the final figures to show a Trump "victory". Good luck with that.

Supreme Court orders separate count of late-arriving Pa. ballots

The Supreme Court on Friday ordered Pennsylvania election boards to separately count mail ballots that arrived after Election Day, while rejecting a GOP request to stop counting those votes.The ord…
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I presume that you are an American by your syntax, and I am wearing my spectacles.

Lucky777 said:
Get your glasses out buddy
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I repeat, as I find some of your countrymen are better at shouting and engaging in sesquipedalian sentences with small meaning, by asking you to summarise the argument of the fat gentleman with the large mug of "americano" which you attached to your meaningless post.

gg

 
satanoperca said:
Did you read what you wrote, and yes I have my glasses on.

Did you go to Chump University?
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Thank you @satanoperca

@Lucky777 . It is incumbent on you to clarify your original post using Australian English and proper sentences, and to summarise what appear to you as Biblical statements from the Mount made by the fat man with the large mug of "americano" in a vid which goes for over 48 minutes.

People are busy. We value your thought.

This thread is read by many worldwide and your pearls are appreciated.

gg
 
Legislature in Pennsylvania states that votes must come in before or on November 3rd which is Election Day in the United States.
Mail in ballots are accepted with the post mark of November 3. All votes are to be counted, we can agree on that.
Pennsylvania courts(State Court) has recently amended that mail in ballots are to be accepted after Election Day November 3 and to extend it for an additional 3 days. This is in violation of the American constitution and the Supreme Court has ruled that only ballots are to be counted on Election Day. If you studied a bit of law this would make sense to you hopefully.

And I don’t see why you are attacking me, I am stating facts. Read a law book and open your mind. Also I am Australian and live in Melbourne. Any other antagonising attacks and big words to be used?
 
Constitutional law can sort out the election.
To see if we get "Trump II Donnies revenge".

For now its goodbye sweet, bestest ever president. Thanks for giving the left mental illness for the past 4 years.

 
No more antagonising attacks if there ever were. I speak and write English, it is not a gift, try it when making a shouty attack and posting a vid by some unknown called Turley.

In legal contests what seem like apparent facts are decided after argument by a judge. Your comments are opinion. Higher courts can become involved if either litigant is unhappy with the lower court's decision.

I have no problems with the Orange Fool mounting legal challenges to the election particularly in Pennsylvania where as a youth I partook in some shenanigans with the Democratic Party in that Commonwealth. I equally took part with some Republicans in similar sport in Atlanta, Ga. They were all good people and friends. Unlike many on this forum I have no allegiances except to the good of myself, my family, Queensland and Australia as I see it.

Winners are grinners.

You should try it. I trust "shenanigans" is not too big a word. By the way, is said Turley any relation to the Turleys of Boulia who used have a cafe there in the 1970's?

gg
 
moXJO said:
Thanks for giving the left mental illness for the past 4 years.
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Trouble is, sociopaths really do spread mental health problems to their victims.

There’s really only one type of person who does well under the likes of Trump - mercenaries.

Those mercenaries will of course have jumped 100% into the Biden camp the moment they concluded he was going to win. Trump hats and shirts in the bin, Biden hats and shirts on and yes Sir of course we were on your side all along......

The one thing people like Trump don’t have is the loyalty of anyone competent.

Once Biden’s officially in Office, Trump will become irrelevant real quick for that reason. Even those he thinks are friends will be merely associates in practice.
 
Very good points.

Another problem is that the election was very close.

Further, Democrats rallied and voted anti-Trump, with which I agree. However the present day Democratic Party is by no means united on many contentious policy issues let alone ready to deal with a non-compliant Congress.

gg
 
Totally, completely, wholly, and utterly off topic:
Dear Mr Gumnut,
Garpal Gumnut said:
... and engaging in sesquipedalian sentences with small meaning,
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My thanks for your use of the word "sesquipedalian". The only other use I remember encountering is in a limerick invented by Dorothy L. Sayers for her novel Murder Must Advertise. I first read this some 35 years ago and have read it several times since then, but the word stuck in my mind and still provides a chuckle. It's a pleasure to meet it again in such a different context.
 

4 years of attacks on trump and anyone around, supporting, or even leaning that way.

The greater threat is we have a large group that simply are groupthink sociopaths. There was an absolute hatred of trump.

I'm sorry but the amount of bs that was posted on here could fill a football stadium. And the weird thing is Biden was an actual racist prior and Trump was regularly in black rapper videos prior. Biden is just as knee deep in sht as Trump. Yet people would rather the safety of a mask. A wolf in sheeps clothing to feel good about the choice they made.

Also being oblivious to the games played on one side.



And Russian collusion, I didn't hear a pip coming out of anyone when Obama and Biden let Russia stroll into Ukraine. Not to mention supporting Iran who is backed once again by?

The absolute hypocrisy of it all was the disturbing thing to me. All throughout. But the way people latched onto the hatred was the real problem. Not Trump.
 
The Democrat party is similar to the position labor is in. They need to figure out who they are and what they represent. This election was not the shoe in I thought it was.
 
Smurf1976 said:
Once Biden’s officially in Office, Trump will become irrelevant real quick for that reason. Even those he thinks are friends will be merely associates in practice.
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Its the base he leaves behind that is important. Never did a president pull that many together. Republicans need to utilise that and shape it if they want to stay in the race. The Latino vote needs to be nursed after the surprise showing.
 
moXJO said:
The greater threat is we have a large group that simply are groupthink sociopaths. There was an absolute hatred of trump.
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My view if Trump is based on prior personal experience with a remarkably similar individual many years ago.

That was my assessment of him when he became President and nothing he did during the following years surprised me in the slightest. It’s all classic behaviour straight from the textbook.

Such people will always remove anyone more competent, at anything, than themselves and are extremely “trigger happy” when it comes to legal action.

Looking at Trump and comparing to personal experience it’s akin to listening to a band of professional musicians covering a well known song with the aim of precisely replicating the original artist in every way. There’ll be minor imperfections but it’s damn close.

Anyone else who’s seen it previously will likewise have immediately spotted it with Trump. As with most things, once you’ve seen one good example and understand what it is, it’s pretty easy to identify others you encounter.

The biggest legacy of such people is always the same. They purge out competency.

Some will go of their own accord, some will be sacked, some will stay as such but they become clock watching employees who couldn’t give a damn. Those who are competent will have retired, been sacked, gone to work in the private sector or simply given up by now.

The problem isn’t unique to politics. It sure wouldn’t be the first time a large listed company cost shareholders a fortune by going down the same track.
 
moXJO said:
The Democrat party is similar to the position labor is in. They need to figure out who they are and what they represent. This election was not the shoe in I thought it was.
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You got that right.

Middle class workers afraid of globalisation should be the focus of any centre/left party. Trump spoke to them and Labor ignored them in the last election.

If some of Trump's policies were expounded by someone of a less arrogant and divisive personality in the Republican Party, I reckon they would have won.

It was Trump that lost the election, but he could rightly claim that it was him who won in 2016.

From a global point of view, US isolationism under Trump was bad for the world, and ultimately bad for the US. China is catching up fast economically and militarily and it will need a combined action by democracies to slow them down. I think Biden realises that and will mend ties with allies ASAP.
 
This sums up the last four years pretty well.
 
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