U.S. Presidential Election 2020

[dutchie]

Give it up.

You lost.

Get over it.

We all lost. Some of you don't know it yet.

 

[wayneL]

Give it up.

You lost.

Get over it.

Dems never got over the Trump win though, Horace.

And with several court cases going, it ain't over till the fat lady sings.

It looks like Blockchain technology may even have a role in sorting this out...

 

[basilio]

Legislature in Pennsylvania states that votes must come in before or on November 3rd which is Election Day in the United States.
Mail in ballots are accepted with the post mark of November 3. All votes are to be counted, we can agree on that.
Pennsylvania courts(State Court) has recently amended that mail in ballots are to be accepted after Election Day November 3 and to extend it for an additional 3 days. Pennsylvania courts(State Court) has recently amended that mail in ballots are to be accepted after Election Day November 3 and to extend it for an additional 3 days.

At the risk of repeating what has been understood and is current practice.

Legislature in Pennsylvania states that votes must come in before or on November 3rd which is Election Day in the United States.
Mail in ballots are accepted with the post mark of November 3 (and prior) . All votes are to be counted, we can agree on that.

Yes clear and straightforward.

Pennsylvania courts(State Court) has recently amended that mail in ballots are to be accepted after Election Day November 3 and to extend it for an additional 3 days.
This change is made to reflect the reality that for many reasons votes duly made and posted before the election as demonstrated by the pre Nov 3rd postmark are valid votes and should be counted. The State Legislature thought that votes received for up to 3 days should be allowed as long as they were postmarked prior to the election. The acceptance of late votes for US elections is already accepted as practice from O/S citizens and military personal who already use mail in ballots. Mail delays are not unusual and this procedure ensures a reasonable flexibility of procedure.

There is no evidence that mail in votes postmarked after Nov 3rd have been counted. There is no evidence that even late arriving votes with Pre Nov 3rd postmarks will make any difference to the final result. The current Biden lead is 40k plus . Late votes might be 4K. in total.

This argument won't get past the clerk. The only reason this is being run is to give some Trump supporters a reason to discredit the election process. It has minimal legal validity and no practical validity.

 

[basilio]

Thanks for giving the left mental illness for the past 4 years.

Trump has also done an exceptional job at creating 40 million plus people who believe anything, everything and only what he says. Many are sacrificing their lives in their thousands as they congregate at rallies, shout their support and spread COVID with gay abandon (which Trump has made clear is not a big deal) And this legacy will continue for at least the next 10 weeks and God knows how it will be slowed down when Biden is inaugurated.

We can all agree that is a remarkable brain washing achievement.

(In the last two weeks the US COVID infection rate has effectively doubled from 60k to 130k . Many/most are in the midwest states.)

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[PZ99]

This would have to be the first time the US has had three presidents at the same time ?

• The one who won the election
• The one who thinks he won the election
• The one controlling the one who won the election

 

[Smurf1976]

The Democrat party is similar to the position labor is in. They need to figure out who they are and what they represent.

The popularity of Trump can be explained pretty simply - the middle class are looking for someone, anyone, who’ll represent them.

Same exists in Australia and I’ll go a step further and note that this broad circumstance goes a long way to explaining why politics keeps cropping up everywhere including on this forum. There’s an awful lot of people, the middle class, desperate to be heard.

Fix that underlying issue and the rest goes away.

 

[IFocus]

Trump is a nationalist populist who has and still is acting like an old style Latin / African / 3rd world dictator.

Its really a fascial comedy act entirely promoted and predicted by Trump and his family.

Its over Trumps a loser Biden will become president.

Not only will Biden win but Australia wins too, you could the champagne corks popping through all Australia security agency's

 

[basilio]

The popularity of Trump can be explained pretty simply - the middle class are looking for someone, anyone, who’ll represent them.

Same exists in Australia and I’ll go a step further and note that this broad circumstance goes a long way to explaining why politics keeps cropping up everywhere including on this forum. There’s an awful lot of people, the middle class, desperate to be heard.

Fix that underlying issue and the rest goes away.

Bang on. The think one could include working class in that group. Workers who have lost their jobs and whole industries, people on minimum wages working 2-3 jobs to survive. There is huge pain in the US. The wealth disparity has become so grotesque it is creating an untenable situation.

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[IFocus]

Where is the laptop, where has it gone, where are the lost documents?

Most states in contention are Republican held in some form or other that includes Pennsylvania.

They all have different laws regarding mail in ballots (FFS California, Democrat, accepts them 17 days after)

They all have observers from both parties and international observers.

Is anyone here saying they rigged the election for Biden?

 

[moXJO]

Not only will Biden win but Australia wins too, you could the champagne corks popping through all Australia security agency's

I wouldn't talk so fast. Biden and Obama let the Chinese push into the south China sea. I'm not sure second best of one of the weakest leaderships is going to cut it. In saying that I didn't think Trump would be much better for Australia's position.

 

[moXJO]

Where is the laptop, where has it gone, where are the lost documents?

Most states in contention are Republican held in some form or other that includes Pennsylvania.

They all have different laws regarding mail in ballots (FFS California, Democrat, accepts them 17 days after)

They all have observers from both parties and international observers.

Is anyone here saying they rigged the election for Biden?

Once again absentee or mail ins are different things

 

[sptrawler]

Bang on. The think one could include working class in that group.

It wasn't that long ago, that the working class, was part of the middle class.

 

[moXJO]

My view if Trump is based on prior personal experience with a remarkably similar individual many years ago.

That was my assessment of him when he became President and nothing he did during the following years surprised me in the slightest. It’s all classic behaviour straight from the textbook.

Such people will always remove anyone more competent, at anything, than themselves and are extremely “trigger happy” when it comes to legal action.

Looking at Trump and comparing to personal experience it’s akin to listening to a band of professional musicians covering a well known song with the aim of precisely replicating the original artist in every way. There’ll be minor imperfections but it’s damn close.

Anyone else who’s seen it previously will likewise have immediately spotted it with Trump. As with most things, once you’ve seen one good example and understand what it is, it’s pretty easy to identify others you encounter.

The biggest legacy of such people is always the same. They purge out competency.

Some will go of their own accord, some will be sacked, some will stay as such but they become clock watching employees who couldn’t give a damn. Those who are competent will have retired, been sacked, gone to work in the private sector or simply given up by now.

The problem isn’t unique to politics. It sure wouldn’t be the first time a large listed company cost shareholders a fortune by going down the same track.

Take out the relentless media and Democrat attacks and where did it stand?

We have had 4 years of propaganda to make everything seem like the end of the world.

Meanwhile no new wars. Got troops out of middle East. Attempting peace with NK. Middle East peace agreement. Finally called put China.
Actually addressed some workers and poc issues.
I didn't care who did it but he got the ball rolling. Trump is a control freak granted. But it opened up a lot of what politicians should have been doing. And if it took a sociopath to do it, then something has gone very wrong with politics overall.

 

[Lucky777]

Fact: Media does not call elections.

 

[Linus van Pelt]

Very good points.

Another problem is that the election was very close.

Further, Democrats rallied and voted anti-Trump, with which I agree. However the present day Democratic Party is by no means united on many contentious policy issues let alone ready to deal with a non-compliant Congress.

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The below article popped up in my Google feed. I think it's a good read, and follows on from GG's comments above. Of course, it is just one author's opinion, so you may disagree with it. But it did give me pause for thought.

I've made no secret that I think Trump was unfit to be President, although I acknowledge the opposing viewpoints in this thread - some expressed more cogently than others.

While I am glad Biden won or, more accurately, that Trump lost, this is by no means the end of all things ailing the US, as alluded to in this article.

I'm sure I will disagree with some of Biden's (or Harris's) policies, but if he can assist in transforming the Divided States of America back to the United States of America, I think that would be a big step in the right direction. Perhaps just wishful thinking.

I guess we'll see in 4 (or more) years whether the United States has become the United Socialist States of America, as so many seem to fear.

Hopefully both parties will present and the American people will choose better candidates in 2024 than have been available in 2016 and 2020. Until then, it is what it is.

P.S.: I think I've got politics fatigue, and will likely unsubscribe from this thread and close down Facebook for a good while ?

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[Lucky777]

Another socialist confirmed

 

[moXJO]

Trump has also done an exceptional job at creating 40 million plus people who believe anything, everything and only what he says.

I think the constant media attacks have created a siege mentality in conservatives. Trump was just a unifier.


Idiotic statements from dumbshts like this have made it plain and clear. The problem has been that the left swallowed more and more extremist statements. Which in turn pushes the right more.

You look at things like vegans, environment, social issues and in every case group activism is turning violent and the opposition is labelled nazis. It all seemed to stem from environmental at first. The template was then copied over to the rest.

 

[satanoperca]

Take out the relentless media and Democrat attacks and where did it stand?

We have had 4 years of propaganda to make everything seem like the end of the world.

Meanwhile no new wars. Got troops out of middle East. Attempting peace with NK. Middle East peace agreement. Finally called put China.
Actually addressed some workers and poc issues.
I didn't care who did it but he got the ball rolling. Trump is a control freak granted. But it opened up a lot of what politicians should have been doing. And if it took a sociopath to do it, then something has gone very wrong with politics overall.

Sounds all good, except for 238,000 deaths from mismanagement by Chump.

He didn't need to start wars abroad, he just created one at home.

 

[IFocus]

Hang on Mo Trump kept claiming Obama was born in Kenya and was a Muslim.

It is typical of his time in power, how do keep the position Trump was hard done by in the media?

Are you saying they shouldn't call out his 10,000 to 20,000 untruths?

Should they have been more like FOX (who have called the election for Biden) and just be cringe worthy sycophants?

 

[IFocus]

Sounds all good, except for 238,000 deaths from mismanagement by Chump.

He didn't need to start wars abroad, he just created one at home.

Good to see Trump playing golf while no cohesive plan for COVID exists.