U.S. Presidential Election 2020

[basilio]

Joe Biden isn't President. Donald Trump is still President of the United States until January 20th 2021 with all the power and responsibilities that entails.

 

[basilio]

A story for the times.

 

[basilio]

Just to confirm the latest facts re the US election.

Biden passes electoral college milestone and will be next US president, multiple networks project

Democratic candidate Joe Biden will win more than the 270 electoral college votes required to become US president, according to projections by multiple networks.

www.abc.net.au

 

[basilio]

It looks Trump is going down with the ship and taking his family and most loyal friends with him.

Full bore ahead with "legal challenges" that no one with two functioning neurons or a gram of political sense would touch in a million trump lies.

Donald Trump refuses to concede defeat as recriminations begin

Biden declared winner as president says ‘This is far from over’ and threatens legal challenges – but experts doubt they will succeed

www.theguardian.com

 

[IFocus]

As Bas says Biden takes power after in the inauguration 20th of Jan 2021

In the mean time Trump will continue to create division and chaos burning scorched earth style the house down such is the big loser he is.

COVID will have killed 10's of thousands more unnecessarily and they are likely to be his own supporters.

Its a shame Really.

 

[Knobby22]

OK, I am going to call it.
Who in the family has not made a statement supporting Trump not conceeding? Who has been very careful?
Who in the family has brains?

Ivanka Trump.

She will be nominating as the Republican candidate for the next President.

 

[basilio]

As Bas says Biden takes power after in the inauguration 20th of Jan 2021

In the mean time Trump will continue to create division and chaos burning scorched earth style the house down such is the big loser he is.

COVID will have killed 10's of thousands more unnecessarily and they are likely to be his own supporters.

Its a shame Really.

A US President with unlimited power, no scruples, no boundaries and seemingly nothing to lose could do some serious damage in 10 weeks. Reminds of Hitlers orders to destroy Germany's power, water, transportation, sanitation infrastructure in 1945 because the German people didn't support him enough. (Albert Speer took sole responsibility for this order and quietly buried it.)
It will be interesting to see how the Republicans deal with this possibility.

I think first cab off the ranks will be Presidential Pardons for all who deserve one.

Hitler’s Order to Destroy Germany

By early 1945, Germany was about to collapse. Hitler issued a Decree known as “Nero Decree”, by which he ordered Germany’s destruction.

medium.com

 

[dutchie]

Trump will probably be remembered for many things.
But the most important one is that he will be the last Republican President.

 

[moXJO]

The issue around Trumps lending and banks has been well covered.

I seen questions repeated time and again up to the present time asking what court actions Trump can take about the vote issues.

The answers have all been the same, actions taken so far will have no bearing on the out come none, nada, zip they have been minor nit picking delaying actions and there is nothing that can be taken to the supreme court as yet, none of the accusations being made have any evidence to support them none, nada, zip if there was it would be presented to a court ASP that hasn't happened.

Clearly Biden is winning, the polls were again well out but the shape of the vote count is playing almost to script.

Trump supporters were told to vote on the day, Democrats were told to vote by mail in due to the pandemic.

Trump has spent weeks demonising mail in ballots (falsely) setting up the current false claims.

How anyone can buy into any of this is beyond me.

You do know PV state legislature is controlled by the Republican Party.

Georgia is also Republican

Again nothing comes close to GOP gerrymander of boundary's ....nothing.

The bank thing was from rubbish opinions. It is not "well documented fact".

As for votes by mail.
Dems changed voting laws in the states just prior to elections.
Activist groups funded ballot harvesters.
Votes were collected by the thousands.



I think a lot here don't understand what exactly happened.
Democrats ran a very intense ballot harvesting program in key areas.

 

[dutchie]

Half the USA knows that Biden is an illegitimate President.
The other half (which include leftists, MSM, social media, the bureaucracy, the swamp, globalists) can now tell the first half to get nicked.
They will be silenced, forcefully if necessary, from now on.
The sh#t has well and truly hit the fan in the USA, the West will follow.
Our freedom of speech will be one of the first things to go.

 

[Smurf1976]

Our freedom of speech will be one of the first things to go.

I would argue that it’s effective disappearance to substantial extent has already occurred.

Compare now versus just a few years ago and it’s night versus day and to be clear, I’m referring to Australia there as well as the US and others.

If it was up to me then I’d wind the clock back a decade on that and start again.

 

[basilio]

The bank thing was from rubbish opinions. It is not "well documented fact".

As for votes by mail.
Dems changed voting laws in the states just prior to elections.
Activist groups funded ballot harvesters.
Votes were collected by the thousands.



I think a lot here don't understand what exactly happened.
Democrats ran a very intense ballot harvesting program in key areas.

Just wondering. How many posters on ASF sincerely believe all these statements? Do you then believe that as a consequence the US elections results should be overturned and Trump re elected ?

Are you supporting Trump in his assertions that "he would have won if only legal votes were counted". That in effect the US electoral system was rorted /corrupted by the Dems to get Biden elected ? Just interested.

The BBC factchecked Trumps Fridays Press conference. This is their analysis of Trumps assertions.

US election 2020: Donald Trump's speech fact-checked

The president made a string of claims but provided little evidence.

www.bbc.com

 

[satanoperca]

I will help out.

Were there fraudulent votes? YES
That doesn't mean the outcome was incorrect.
What % of votes were fraudulent? I don't know. But I suspect it was <0.5%
But let's say it was 2%, enough to effect the election.
Then you have to determine which way those fraudulent voted, Red or Blue. I suspect it would be somewhere between 30-50% either way. So did affect the outcome.
Let's not forget, Chump wanted his supporters to vote in person, which was irresponsible given Covid. Biden was responsible, don't risk you life, mail in your vote.
Let's also not forget, the flow on effect of covid from the Chump man, organising and supporting mass rallies that will see the virus spread even further, and before some dipwit makes a statement, have a look of the figures/facts of how this virus is running wild through the USA population.
Finally a statesman in office.

I will end with this, Chump man could have easily won, if he just learnt the art of war, he talks to much and produces to little.

 

[dutchie]

I am sad. Not for myself, but for my children and my grandchildren and for society at large.
I was going to respond to the last two posts and argue the points. But I realise now that is futile. (It has nothing to do with the posters)
The forces are too strong and entrenched. The swamp is too deep.
"The best country in the world" has lost its fight against self destruction. We in Australia will eventually follow.
Pessimistic I know.
We are all frogs in boiling water rushing (some gleefully) to 1984.

 

[bellenuit]

COVID will have killed 10's of thousands more unnecessarily and they are likely to be his own supporters.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least that when Trump finally concedes, he will wash his hand of COVID responsibility, as he has done up to now, and somehow try and move responsibility to Biden. A sort of "if you think it is a problem, then you deal with it" statement. It could put Biden in a dilemma, as he has claimed that fixing the spread will be his immediate priority, but if only nominally given responsibility without all the resources of government at his disposal, it would unlikely make any difference.

 

[moXJO]

Just wondering. How many posters on ASF sincerely believe all these statements? Do you then believe that as a consequence the US elections results should be overturned and Trump re elected ?

Are you supporting Trump in his assertions that "he would have won if only legal votes were counted". That in effect the US electoral system was rorted /corrupted by the Dems to get Biden elected ? Just interested.

The BBC factchecked Trumps Fridays Press conference. This is their analysis of Trumps assertions.

US election 2020: Donald Trump's speech fact-checked

The president made a string of claims but provided little evidence.

www.bbc.com

Understand what ballot harvesting is first. This election was unlike any other due to mail in.

You are alluding that this election was same as always. It wasn't. I am in no way saying Trump should overturn the vote unless legal. I simply don't think he will have the numbers regardless.

The other thing that you are all mistaken on is thinking I am calling outright voting fraud. Thats not the case. While a lot of dodgy crap went on, it doesn't have the numbers to save Trump.

Im saying this was parcelled and wrapped the moment postal votes were sent to everyone. Thats where it was lost and won.

In Georgia people like stacy abrams and her organisation had a huge effect.

Bas you have been posting baseless crap going on since Trump won. Also with extremely light on detail main stream media links that post half truths.

As for COVID-19 its over. Lockdowns and all....

 

[bellenuit]

I suspect that like the Tucker Carlson "lost in the post" excuse, Trump, not having any credible evidence of election fraud, will back down from the court challenges where he would have to produce such evidence and declare that even though he has overwhelming evidence of fraud, for the good of the country he will accept the results.

 

[Smurf1976]

"The best country in the world" has lost its fight against self destruction. We in Australia will eventually follow.

I don’t disagree but I also don’t see what it has to do with the election?

It’s not as though either Biden or Trump proposed to actually stop the rot. One’s a statesman-like figure focused elsewhere, the other’s an entertainer and businessman of sorts.

 

[dutchie]

I don’t disagree but I also don’t see what it has to do with the election?

It’s not as though either Biden or Trump proposed to actually stop the rot. One’s a statesman-like figure focused elsewhere, the other’s an entertainer and businessman of sorts.

You are right, it is not really about the election itself, other than the Democrats (some of them anyway) will be the autocrats when the USA becomes totalitarian.

The rot started well and truly before Trump (probably back to the late 60's). Trump was a temporary speed bump but now it is full steam ahead.

 

[sptrawler]

I'm just looking forward to Joe, wrapping the thread up, time to move on. Lol