TZL - TZ Limited

[TheAbyss]

Pommie, i used the ebitda figures and calculated prior to other costs etc. Including all revenues etc it was a 39.07% loss whilst the loss after all taxes etc are considered is 14.12%.

$10.804 Million dollars is a heck of a lot of change to be paying for good will to be purchased via shareholder value IMO.

I am not unfamiliar with what TZ do and am cognizant of their start up status Pommie, just wary of IP companies that promise a lot and struggle to get their products to market.

I want them to succeed. Their potential is high as is the risk and again this is just my opinion which i am as entitled to as you are yours and will not presume what you know or do not know about them. Good luck.

 

[Pommiegranite]

Pommie, i used the ebitda figures and calculated prior to other costs etc. Including all revenues etc it was a 39.07% loss whilst the loss after all taxes etc are considered is 14.12%.

$10.804 Million dollars is a heck of a lot of change to be paying for good will to be purchased via shareholder value IMO.

I am not unfamiliar with what TZ do and am cognizant of their start up status Pommie, just wary of IP companies that promise a lot and struggle to get their products to market.

I want them to succeed. Their potential is high as is the risk and again this is just my opinion which i am as entitled to as you are yours and will not presume what you know or do not know about them. Good luck.

No offence, but ignoring the other main financial statement means that your opinion on TZ is halfbaked at best($12million increase in net assets).

 

[Eddyl]

I agree with The Abyss, TZL seem to promise alot, but as yet, have delivered very little.
This comment is particularly related to the there apparent NASDAQ listing, which was supposedly meant to happen this year, however the shareholders are constantly left in the dark about the status of this project (beyond the typical ' is it progressing').

 

[grace]

Looks like DKR may have offloaded a few more this morning, trade of 1 030 000 shares at $3.20. If so, they should be nearly gone.

 

[Pommiegranite]

Looks like DKR may have offloaded a few more this morning, trade of 1 030 000 shares at $3.20. If so, they should be nearly gone.

Yes Grace, it appears the beast has been slain.

I wonder who bought over $3million worth of stock in one go?

 

[YELNATS]

Confirming ann at 3.10pm today,

Quote
The Directors advise that DKR Oasis Management Company LP and DKR
SoundShore Oasis Holding Fund Ltd have disposed of all of their remaining
shareholding in the Company to various buyers.
Mr Andrew Sigalla, Executive Chairman of the Company, and Mr John
Falconer, Executive Director of the Company, participated in the sale and
purchased a total of 312,000 of the Oasis shares.
Unquote

Already note that the sp is up around 10% today.

 

[Pommiegranite]

Confirming ann at 3.10pm today,

Quote
The Directors advise that DKR Oasis Management Company LP and DKR
SoundShore Oasis Holding Fund Ltd have disposed of all of their remaining
shareholding in the Company to various buyers.
Mr Andrew Sigalla, Executive Chairman of the Company, and Mr John
Falconer, Executive Director of the Company, participated in the sale and
purchased a total of 312,000 of the Oasis shares.
Unquote

Already note that the sp is up around 10% today.

What a massive clue to the imminent future of this company. Maybe they know something that some of the naysayers on this thread don't.

 

[prawn_86]

What a massive clue to the imminent future of this company. Maybe they know something that some of the naysayers on this thread don't.

Theoretically, they should not know anything more than the normal holders, otherwise its insider trading. But things dont always go according to theory...

 

[Pommiegranite]

Theoretically, they should not know anything more than the normal holders, otherwise its insider trading. But things dont always go according to theory...

I agree Prawn. However, director buying sometimes is instigated simply by 'things being on track' as opposed to any new information. With TZ, the information has always been in the public domain. Whether potential investors listen or act on this information is a different matter.

In the case of TZ, 'things being on track' has an extreme upside, simply considering the goals of managment i.e expectation of several % of a >$50billion dollar market.

Ok, I admit some timelines have been stretched. However, TZ have so far reached every goal they have aimed for in the pursuit of commercialisation on Intevia.

Kudos to management

 

[ntphil]

Quote Ntphil Feb 08

I don't think we have seen the bottom of this stock yet. 2.50?? so I want to be there when it happens.

How are we going now hotshots.

When the "ANNOUNCEMENT" of a delay in the NASDAQ listing is announced will we see sub $2.


Lambs to the slaughter stock is going to $5
We'll never see $3 again.

Yeh OK

I'm a buyer

 

[seajay]

Anyone care to stick thier neck out and predict what we are to hear by 30th . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ???????????? . . . . . . . . .

 

[oldblue]

Does anyone have any idea what is happening with this company?
Is the NASDAQ listing still going to happen?

Disc: Not invested but watching with interest.

 

[Kuri]

Pommiegranite are you able to give us all an update? I have been a long time reader of this thread but it has been quiet for sometime now.

 

[prawn_86]

Pommiegranite are you able to give us all an update? I have been a long time reader of this thread but it has been quiet for sometime now.

So much is happening but its all top secret and cant inform the market...

Seriously though, i have no idea either, actual updates would be nice, not just rumours and vague statments

 

[MangaNOID]

rumours....

TZL deliberately stated that the nasdaq listing could be postponed due to market conditions (this was very convenient) until next year thus sending the SP plummeting. these low priced shares were then moped up by CSNY for the IPO that will be happening on schedule thus eliminating the need to dilute the amount of shares listed in TZL. this lack of dilution is why the directors were keen to snap up the rest of the DKR package. there is just a little spill over left of panickers selling their small holdings which will soon be moped up by the announcement that every one is hoping for at the end of this month.

 

[seajay]

Manga

'TZL deliberately stated that the nasdaq listing could be postponed due to market conditions (this was very convenient) until next year thus sending the SP plummeting. these low priced shares were then moped up by CSNY for the IPO that will be happening on schedule thus eliminating the need to dilute the amount of shares listed in TZL. this lack of dilution is why the directors were keen to snap up the rest of the DKR package. there is just a little spill over left of panickers selling their small holdings which will soon be moped up by the announcement that every one is hoping for at the end of this month.'


An interesting take on what been happening lately, to say the least !!
Will be well pleased if your view becomes reality.

We should have a better idea of the prospective NASDAQ listing by Tuesday at the latest.

 

[MangaNOID]

i was just spreading more silly rumours really as that's all weve had lately.... it was said a bit tongue in cheek

 

[Eddyl]

I have to agree with Prawn. This thread tends to harbour some notoriously defensive posters of crack pot theories. A company should be run in a transparent manner, and let its product of service speak for itself. It seems like TZ is a very opaque company.

 

[YELNATS]

It's official. As per today's announcement, "the Company has decided to delay consideration of the listing until the first quarter of 2009".

Wonder how the sp will perform in the interim?

 

[birdmanz]

For anyone interested I've attached a spreadsheet that outlines Top 20 movements from Sep 07, May08, Jun 08 & Jul08

Cheers
G