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lol, He really is no match for Julia in those morning show debates, he regularly gets beaten into submission by her.
 
JimBob said:
I don't think he really needed to explain the costings of every aspect, otherwise his speech would have went all night. If Joe Hockey does a good job of costing their policies next week then they will be on track. The current budget seems to be based more on the hope that China's economy will help us through instead of the strength of our own economy.
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The Labor attack dogs are attacking on the basis that Abbott did not come up with an alternative budget. The main focus of the address in reply is to find flaws in the Budget and suggest remedies.

It is not the Opposition's job to frame Budgets. Their job is offer alternative strategies, not alternative budgets.

To put a budget together requires the massive resources of the Treasury. How the hell could Abbott and Hockey match this. Whatever they came up with, Swan and Tanner have the resources of Treasury to cost it and tear it to shreds.
 
Abbott just got smashed by Kerry O'Brien (7.30 Report).

Looked like a real goose.

PM material - no way.
 
dutchie said:
Abbott just got smashed by Kerry O'Brien (7.30 Report).

Looked like a real goose.

PM material - no way.
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Yes dutchie I agree, he did not present himself well at all. He has to develope the cunnimg of Rudd and should have come back about the multiple back flips of the Government against his one back flip of his on no new taxes. The tax on paid parental leave was originnally called a tempoary levy which was to be removed once the budget reversed back in the black.
He still has a few lessons to learn unfortuneatly.
 
Just a woeful interview on Tony Abbott's part, and Kerry O'Brien was actually being reasonably gentle, more than he was in the interview last week with Mr Rudd.

Agree with you Noco, Mr Abbott should not have attempted to justify his reversals, and instead drawn attention back to the government backflips.
Both Rudd and Gillard are masters at doing this.

There simply was no good answer to K. O'Brien's questions. Mr Abbott had indeed completely changed his policy and he made it worse by suggesting that there were some things he said which no one should really take seriously, and other things which voters should realise should be taken seriously.

K. O'Brien was quite right to suggest it smacked of core and non-core promises.
You'd have to hope not too many potential voters were watching this interview as it sure as hell would have turned them off.

Really disappointing (again).

I can imagine the angst in the Liberal party room, especially when we remember he became leader on just one vote.
 
dutchie said:
Abbott just got smashed by Kerry O'Brien (7.30 Report).

Looked like a real goose.

PM material - no way.
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You got that right. Why on earth he committed to upping the ante on paid parental leave is a mystery. It was the height of political amateurism. He is definitely not leadership material.

O'Brien exposed his greatest weakness...lack of credibility.
 
Lindsay Tanner on ABC's Q&A did very well, most impressive (and entertaining) handling all manner of questions. Joe Hockey was a clown.
 
roland said:
Lindsay Tanner on ABC's Q&A did very well, most impressive (and entertaining) handling all manner of questions. Joe Hockey was a clown.
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Yep Joe got his ass handed to him...the Libs are really struggling, a front bench with no bite.
 
Every time Abbott answers a question or makes a statement the Government will rightly be able to ask whether this is true (scripted) or one of those times he is not telling the truth.

Even when he answers that question they could ask whether that was true (scripted) or not etc etc.

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Brendan move over ......
Malcolm move over ......
Tony move over .......
OK who is next ....... gawd ......
Wheres Peter ......
Wheres Johnny ......
 
Kerry O'Brien is starting to look Pro-Liberal when you compare the treatment he gave Kevin Rudd versus last nights kid gloves handling of Tony Abbott. And Tony Abbott finaly comes out and admits voters should not believe him unless what he says has been put in writing.
While Lindsay Tanner had the measure of Joe Hockey on Q&A, at least Joe Hockey has a genuine laugh rather than the donkey bray of Tony Abbott.
The liberals were gaining ground over the last few weeks while Abbott kept his mouth shut, now the liberals will have to work to regain the ground they had previously made up.
 
That wasn't a good look for Tony Abbott on 7.30 report ! And Julia Gillard certainly has his measure in debates.

So where are we? Rudd looks like a pompous public servant who won't accept the fact that you need some very sharp and savy public servants ( and exactly where will you find these people ???) if you want to implement cutting edge reform. So most of us have lost faith in his approach.

Abbott smells too much like Howard and can't even be a convincing liar. Seems like we have the Greens or Julia Gillard who is making absolutely sure she won't become leader until Rudd commits hari kari or is pushed under a bus.
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The other thing I find disconcerting is a seeming refusal of mainstream parties to recognise that our economic and environment world is on the verge of a major change and that will have to make big changes to survive. We just can't go on spending the way we have in the past because of economic debt and we can't waste environmental resources for similar reasons. But neither major party wants to open either of these debates.
 
roland said:
Lindsay Tanner on ABC's Q&A did very well, most impressive (and entertaining) handling all manner of questions. Joe Hockey was a clown.
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Tanner would have my vote over all the rest. He is a very polished performer and also is a very smart and astute economic operator.

Abbott, OMG. Krudd/Swan, OMG. They make me want to reach for a drink. :mad:
 
Bushman said:
Tanner would have my vote over all the rest. He is a very polished performer and also is a very smart and astute economic operator.

Abbott, OMG. Krudd/Swan, OMG. They make me want to reach for a drink. :mad:
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I agree, Bushman, Mr Tanner always seems reasonable, quick-witted and doesn't do the Party Line to the extent Rudd, Gillard and Swan do.
I'd like a combination of him and Stephen Smith, in preference to anyone else on offer. Then up and coming, Greg Combet seems to have good potential, though he may be a bit too Union focused.
 
this abbott is working very hard to make it as easy as possible for the government to discredit him..

when he says himself he will backflip on anything, including a "serious inconsistency" on policy..


lol

zero credibility.. that interview was gold
 
Abbott is soiled goods now - they may as well put Turnbull back in there or give Hockey a go, they can't do any worse.

It's like Keating vs Downer (without trying to overly smear Keating with the Rudd comparison), they just have to stand back and watch as Abbott chains himself to the floor and whips himself with his free hand. For all the political grief Labour should be experiencing for the back-flips and the RSPT it's comparatively easy politics for them at the moment.
 
You would have thought he would have learned NOT to tell the truth in relation to these matters after John Hewson decided to tell the truth to Ray Martin about how much a birthday cake would cost. EPIC FAIL !
 
trainspotter said:
You would have thought he would have learned NOT to tell the truth in relation to these matters after John Hewson decided to tell the truth to Ray Martin about how much a birthday cake would cost. EPIC FAIL !
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There is honesty, and then there is stupidity. He isn't called the 'Mad Monk' for nothing.

The Libs problem is they elevated a head kicker to limit the damage caused by Nelson/Turnbull and Kev07's halo with the Aussie voters. But Kev's alarming penchant for grandstanding first, backflipping later, means he currently has the credibility of a used car salesmen. So all of a sudden the Libs are in the zone much sooner than they expected to be but have one of the Stooges at the helm.

The last time an election was fought over a 'big new tax', Hewson lost the unloseable. So Krudd could still lose it from here given BHP/RIO will throw everything they've got at him. In Krudd's corner is the unions saying Marius is just another greedy fat cat and Abbott is itching to get into bed with 'Work Choices, the Sequel'.

Lol. At least it is entertaining this time around.
 
Julia said:
I agree, Bushman, Mr Tanner always seems reasonable, quick-witted and doesn't do the Party Line to the extent Rudd, Gillard and Swan do.
I'd like a combination of him and Stephen Smith, in preference to anyone else on offer. Then up and coming, Greg Combet seems to have good potential, though he may be a bit too Union focused.
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Business would go into shock if that combo ever came up
 
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