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Hahaha, that's funny, rewriting historyYeah, OK.
But which one of us do you think is rewriting history with continual political threads on ASF?
Tommy Robinson and the new Totalitarianism
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Every politician cops that, Gillard just played the misogyny card.... like a good little identitarian.
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Nuh, she copped it worse than any Aussie politician I can remember.
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Exactly. Every politician cops it. So why all the crocodile tears for Donald Trump?
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Nah pretty sure you're gynocentric. If it was a man copping the same "abuse", you probably wouldn't care. As SHY once said about Pauline Hanson, if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. Pity SHY couldn't live up to her own words too. Gillard was an expert in playing the victim card.
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Don't assume what I would or would not care about.
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Yeah... No. Just can't remember anything like the "Ditch the Witch" posters which surrounded Tony Abbott when he spoke of her. Or comments like "Tie her up in a chaff bag and drown her " or the "barren women" jibes were also as misyongist as you'd see.
Julie Gilliard had a great skills and class. It needed all the nasty combined xxxx of the shock jocks, the no conscience Tony Abbott and the usual suspects to beat her down.
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Assuming with good reason if you think Gillard has copped it worse than any other Australian politician.
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Don't forget "her father died of shame". Disgusting.
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So your nomination is ?
Howard had to wear a bulletproof vest between unions, gun owners and angry dole bludgers. People forget how hated he was. Tony Abbott took it from the media and his female staffer wore it as well.Thanks for sharing that. Discussion is all that's required. But Gillard was the target of more hate than Trump will ever experience. According to a Conservative-Right member of the Liberal Party her father had "died of shame". That's the epitome of hate right there. That same member had fueled the race riots by suggesting on his radio show that bikie gangs should bash Lebanese people live on national television. Not to mention all the crap from the Murdoch media - full front pages of anti Gillard hate and lets not get started on Larry Pickerings' efforts. lol
Yes, the current left are dangerous because they were pissed off with stuff like the above and are handing it back. The Right are just going to have to suck it up I'm afraid - live by the sword die by the sword and all that paraphernalia.
All my view of course but Tommy Robinson doesn't exactly have a history of being mellow either, if he did, this thread wouldn't exist.
I reckon the Right have been looking for a decent figurehead to espouse their views in a way that can carry the people rather than insult them.
But Tommy Robinson isn't that messiah - he's just a norty boy
Gillard was a professional victim. Her"misogyny" speech was all scripted. One of multiple incidents of media setups. It was made out a lot worse then it was.
How about Barnaby? He pretty much shat his own daks though. Dutton though, he cops it from the left.
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All true but they've all dished it out too at some stage. Gillards "misogyny" speech was a response to Tony Abbotts' comment that Gillard's Government should have "died of shame".
Dutton... well he gets as good as he gives. I still remember that text where he called a journalist a "mad f---ing witch" - funny shit
I noticed Ray Hadley is copping it sweet too. So I guess it all boils down to the original point. Hate breeds hate. No one wins. Tommy has a lot to learn IMO.
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So Gillard getting called names cops it worse than other politicians? What politician hasn't been called names before or had disgusting personal attacks against them? I wonder what Rudd's chest felt like as could barely hold back the tears in his first leadership spill speech after his trust of Gillard?
By the way I'm not saying that Gillard didn't cop it bad at all, but I wouldn't say worst. If you think she copped it the worst then I just feel that it is the "damsel in distress" reaction most men have.
Yeah I will always remember that. Needed to be done, but I felt for the guy.
Instead that stuck that union slug in there. Bit like the current union slug billy boy. Only he managed to wipe out 2 PMs to get to the leadership.
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Here you go for the memories. Easy to forget though because Gillard apparently "copped it worse" plus he is a male politician that should just man up right? I never liked him for his policies, but still 4 minutes onwards in that speech makes me feel sick, how could anyone feel sorry for that trash heap called Gillard.
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I prefer the doodleburger version of that clip
Gee whiz, all that hate going right back to the first leadership change in OZ politics
Therefore Turnbull hates Abbott, Abbott hated Turnbull, Turnbull hated Nelson, they all hated - and were hated by John Howard, Peacock etc. Changing leaders isn't greed or progress, but hate?
And it's all the fault of the Totalitarist Left, yes?
Gee whiz, all that hate going right back to the first leadership change in OZ politics
Therefore Turnbull hates Abbott, Abbott hated Turnbull, Turnbull hated Nelson, they all hated - and were hated by John Howard, Peacock etc. Changing leaders isn't greed or progress, but hate?
And it's all the fault of the Totalitarist Left, yes?
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Most of his party colleagues reckoned that Rudd deserved what he got because he was a psychopathic bully towards his staff and colleagues. Gillard copped it because she was a childless, unmarried woman both of which she had a right to be.
Not that she was perfect, far from it, but the attacks on her focussed on her personally and her lifestyle rather than on her policies. Abbott's Royal Commission into unions never laid a glove her and the "trash heap" comment above reeks of a seething hatred based on nothing of substance.
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That's the feminist/identitarian narrative, but as I recall, Labor was looking down the barrel of a pasting in the upcoming election.
It was the policies bro, same reason Turnnull should be replaced forthwith.
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With whom ?
They are both union lackeys. Old billy boy is worse. She passed a lot of laws that affected tradies for her mug mates. Guys were put through the wringer because of her.
Barnaby was roasted for his personal life. They interviewed Tony Abbotts neighbors to get dirt on him. And accused him of an affair with his advisor.
People may not remember but so was Paul Keating. He copped sht for everything. Only he would bite back. Howard copped it for being a little nerd with eyebrows, the signs about him were worse (and pretty funny).
Gillard copped it pfft
Cry me a river.They all cop it. One currently makes money off being a victim now though.
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