Tipping Competition for Full CY 2015

nulla nulla · 3 April 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

systematic said:
Thanks nulla nulla.

All ords up 8.78%

Currently 7 out of 33 outperforming.

And only 17 out of 33 in negative territory. Hhhhmmm....

The Falcon · 3 April 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

I really messed up here not thinking price was based on 31 Dec close, but in close prior to "entries close" at the start of the comp. talk about lead in the saddlebags, I won't make that mistake again :cry:

Logique · 3 April 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

I'm heading in the same direction as the iron ore price. Give me something Twiggy.

Wysiwyg · 4 April 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

Just like to mention that the market returns are time dependent. A fixed period and stock selection produces a luck result.

systematic · 4 April 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

Wysiwyg said:
Just like to mention that the market returns are time dependent. A fixed period and stock selection produces a luck result.

Could you elaborate?

So_Cynical · 4 April 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

Wysiwyg said:
Just like to mention that the market returns are time dependent. A fixed period and stock selection produces a luck result.

Thanks for pointing that out

- im sure most market participants are aware that time will influence return.

In Feb i won the Monthly tipping comp with GTG - same stock the next month was in last place for all but the last day of the march comp, this weeks winner is next weeks loser.

Wysiwyg · 4 April 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

systematic said:
Could you elaborate?

I was running some backtests and noticed the closing of all stocks on the last day does not reflect the profitability of the system. Really want to let these selections run until the system closes them which can only be done in real time.

The comp. leaders vary from month to month as share prices fluctuate therefore the winner will be lucky enough to be in front on the closing date.

systematic · 5 April 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

Wysiwyg said:
I was running some backtests and noticed the closing of all stocks on the last day does not reflect the profitability of the system.

Are you talking about your system? All systems? What do you mean by, "on the last day?" Do you mean last day of the month, year? Only trying to get where you're coming from.

Wysiwyg said:
Really want to let these selections run until the system closes them which can only be done in real time..

I still don't get it. The comp is in real time?
Do you mean to say, the system you are running has your selections still in a trade...therefore you don't like the monthly update as they don't really reflect your system...because they wouldn't be counted (in real life) until the trade was closed?

If that's what you mean - I get that. But this is just a comp, and the monthly tally is just for interest - not to reflect the worth of a traded system. We're all on equal footing.

Wysiwyg said:
The comp. leaders vary from month to month as share prices fluctuate therefore the winner will be lucky enough to be in front on the closing date.

I'm not sure how to even reply to that. On the one hand, of course; month to month reflects as much noise as anything else. You're saying that the winner at the end of the year will be the lucky (i.e. not skillful) one. Well, perhaps. Most likely, even. Any comp like this is for fun (see my original post). All well and good, but I can't help but wonder where you're going with is; what the implications are. Are you saying (as could be read into your comment) that it's all noise and the winner is lucky...and we can never know if we're on to something? If so, when does that change? A ten year benchmark? A hundred year benchmark?
Actually - I think a lot like that. I've either alluded to or stated as such before; in answer to a question about what makes a good 'system' - I think I said something along the lines of, "must work over a very long time period".
Even a 10 or 20 year back test (which is near the max of what you'll see in many an author's back test, if they have one at all) is not necessarily meaningful. Fama (or French, can't remember which one said it) reckons you need to be hitting close to one hundred years for it to be truly significant.

Is that the sort of thing you're talking about? That a comp is not meaningful and the winner will be the lucky one?

But that's not the point of a comp. Example - the monthly comp run on this site - is a point in time competition. The way to play it is not necessarily the way to play as you would a long term investor. It's just "tournament play". I learned (in another world) that tournament play often requires a different strategy. Example: anyone who thinks they're going to win an ASX comp or an ASF monthly comp with a conservative investing style (the type they may practice in real life) is kidding themselves. This year long comp is just another variety.

Anyway - was just interested in what you meant. I don't think you meant that having a comp is completely meaningless - otherwise you wouldn't have joined in. I think you mean that it's frustrating; as the constraints of a comp don't fit in with the way your system normally works? In which case, as I said, I understand completely...but that's the way a comp works.

Wysiwyg · 5 April 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

systematic said:
Are you talking about your system? All systems? What do you mean by, "on the last day?" Do you mean last day of the month, year? Only trying to get where you're coming from..

All systems (and in this case a fixed term tipping comp.)that end at a specific time. Something to consider when back testing systems. No need to "read" anything into it.

pixel · 5 April 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

Wysiwyg said:
All systems (and in this case a fixed term tipping comp.)that end at a specific time. Something to consider when back testing systems. No need to "read" anything into it.

A comp is a comp is a comp. I'd never mistake it for a system and try to read more than cursory predictive qualities into a placing. That is as true for our regular monthly comp as for the full year one that this is about.
Being allowed five stocks instead of just one may assist in improving the odds to a small degree, as it allows some diversification across different sectors. Yet it's still a lot of guesswork, albeit with a little more wriggle room for educated guesses.

jbocker · 6 April 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

Hmmm Just checked my pozzie in the chart. -23% There is a bobby prize ..yes?
Anyone want to subscribe to JBs top stock tips?

shouldaindex · 15 April 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

Looking at the last posted results:

4 out of 35 people have record of 3 outperformers and 2 underperformers stock picks (compared to 10% ASX gain this year).

31 out of 35 have more underperformers.

I read Peter Lynch says 6 out of 10, or this case 3 out of 5 ain't bad, and results (even from a tiny subsection and time) seem to suggest that too.

shouldaindex · 16 April 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

Actually 2 have 4 outperformers and 1 underpermer.

Anyway, overall point stands even with rushed sums.

nulla nulla · 9 May 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

The update for the tipping competition for 2015 as at 30 April 2015 follows (sorry for the delay):

Name	Share	31-Dec-14	30-Apr-15	Change $	Change %	Portfolio
						Change %
Ariyahn2011	fmg	2.740	2.170	-0.570	-20.80%
	ooo	28.910	28.180	-0.730	-2.53%
	rio	58.000	57.150	-0.850	-1.47%
	sto	8.250	8.300	0.050	0.61%
				0.000		-6.05%
Bazmate	ben	12.810	12.090	-0.720	-5.62%
	egp	3.790	4.540	0.750	19.79%
	ipl	3.190	3.990	0.800	25.08%
	jbh	15.790	19.590	3.800	24.07%
	qan	2.400	3.390	0.990	41.25%	20.91%
Burglar	ago	0.165	0.120	-0.045	-27.27%
	bci	0.530	0.430	-0.100	-18.87%
	fmg	2.740	2.170	-0.570	-20.80%
	fms	0.013	0.015	0.002	15.38%
	gbg	0.020	0.024	0.004	20.00%	-6.31%
Chipmunk3d	ajx	0.485	0.690	0.205	42.27%
	iph	3.500	4.320	0.820	23.43%
	neu	0.120	0.100	-0.020	-16.67%
	osh	7.890	8.090	0.200	2.53%
	voc	6.400	5.810	-0.590	-9.22%	8.47%
evilk9	bpt	1.045	1.110	0.065	6.22%
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000		6.22%
Garpel Gumnut	bhp	29.370	31.970	2.600	8.85%
	rio	58.000	57.150	-0.850	-1.47%
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000		3.69%
hhse	asl	0.390	0.445	0.055	14.10%
	cwn	12.690	13.010	0.320	2.52%
	fmg	2.740	2.170	-0.570	-20.80%
	org	11.670	12.740	1.070	9.17%
	ori	18.950	2.600	-16.350	-86.28%	-16.26%
issh	ajx	0.485	0.690	0.205	42.27%
	cwn	12.690	13.010	0.320	2.52%
	1pg	1.180	1.815	0.635	53.81%
	lng	2.420	4.560	2.140	88.43%
	sto	8.250	8.300	0.050	0.61%	37.53%
jblocker	mrm	1.240	0.700	-0.540	-43.55%
	nwh	0.360	0.190	-0.170	-47.22%
	sto	8.250	8.300	0.050	0.61%
	swm	1.350	1.265	-0.085	-6.30%
	wpl	38.010	35.050	-2.960	-7.79%	-20.85%
Klogg	bol	0.140	0.110	-0.030	-21.43%
	ddr	1.570	1.890	0.320	20.38%
	ssm	0.185	0.215	0.030	16.22%
	tsm	0.335	0.340	0.005	1.49%
	uos	0.500	0.535	0.035	7.00%	4.73%
Know the past	bol	0.140	0.110	-0.030	-21.43%
	clt	0.190	0.200	0.010	5.26%
	nwh	0.360	0.190	-0.170	-47.22%
	sbb	0.068	0.047	-0.021	-30.88%
	vet	0.225	0.145	-0.080	-35.56%	-25.97%
Krackdawg	sxy	0.320	0.405	0.085	26.56%
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000		26.56%
logique	amm	2.930	2.300	-0.630	-21.50%
	bhp	29.370	31.970	2.600	8.85%
	fmg	2.740	2.170	-0.570	-20.80%
	ilu	5.950	8.160	2.210	37.14%
	sto	8.250	8.300	0.050	0.61%	0.86%
Miner	ago	0.165	0.120	-0.045	-27.27%
	bno	0.430	0.410	-0.020	-4.65%
	cdd	3.420	3.460	0.040	1.17%
	nea	0.665	0.560	-0.105	-15.79%
	pxg	0.098	0.079	-0.019	-19.39%	-13.19%
Muschu	boq	12.180	13.020	0.840	6.90%
	gem	4.170	3.610	-0.560	-13.43%
	min	7.580	6.500	-1.080	-14.25%
	nvt	5.080	4.630	-0.450	-8.86%
	wes	41.720	43.710	1.990	4.77%	-4.97%
needsajet	amm	2.930	2.300	-0.630	-21.50%
	jbh	15.790	19.590	3.800	24.07%
	mrm	1.240	0.700	-0.540	-43.55%
	rio	58.000	57.150	-0.850	-1.47%
	tol	5.890	8.980	3.090	52.46%	2.00%
nulla nulla	dxs	6.970	7.380	0.410	5.88%
	fdc	2.870	2.950	0.080	2.79%
	fmg	2.740	2.170	-0.570	-20.80%
	nvn	2.120	2.470	0.350	16.51%
	scp	1.855	2.130	0.275	14.82%	3.84%
Paavfc	aek	0.072	0.081	0.009	12.50%
	enr	0.130	0.135	0.005	3.85%
	rdm	0.081	0.040	-0.041	-50.62%
	sgq	0.063	0.065	0.002	3.17%
	tpp	0.050	0.080	0.030	60.00%	5.78%
peter2	hsn	1.820	2.220	0.400	21.98%
	osh	7.890	8.090	0.200	2.53%
	smx	3.530	3.270	-0.260	-7.37%
	tol	5.890	8.980	3.090	52.46%
	wpl	38.010	35.050	-2.960	-7.79%	12.36%
PinkBoy	anz	32.090	33.990	1.900	5.92%
	boq	12.180	13.020	0.840	6.90%
	cba	85.650	88.870	3.220	3.76%
	iag	6.250	5.810	-0.440	-7.04%
	wes	41.720	43.710	1.990	4.77%	2.86%
pixel	aac	1.480	1.620	0.140	9.46%
	drm	0.480	0.470	-0.010	-2.08%
	ric	0.940	1.130	0.190	20.21%
	tlg	0.240	0.395	0.155	64.58%
	wor	10.080	11.450	1.370	13.59%	21.15%
PurpleSX2	aei	0.290	0.490	0.200	68.97%
	ahz	0.120	0.076	-0.044	-36.67%
	avx	0.016	0.012	-0.004	-25.00%
	blt	0.955	0.780	-0.175	-18.32%
	eos	0.815	0.780	-0.035	-4.29%	-3.06%
Robusta	dna	0.755	0.620	-0.135	-17.88%
	icq	1.090	1.015	-0.075	-6.88%
	ipp	2.680	2.530	-0.150	-5.60%
	nvt	5.080	4.630	-0.450	-8.86%
	srx	28.370	21.250	-7.120	-25.10%	-12.86%
ROE	orl	3.800	2.600	-1.200	-31.58%
	rfg	5.760	6.950	1.190	20.66%
	siq	1.465	1.870	0.405	27.65%
	sul	7.150	9.880	2.730	38.18%
	ved	2.290	2.290	0.000	0.00%	10.98%
shouldaindex	eax	2.400	2.020	-0.380	-15.83%
	flt	32.620	43.430	10.810	33.14%
	mvf	1.400	1.570	0.170	12.14%
	tox	2.380	3.020	0.640	26.89%
	trs	6.150	6.490	0.340	5.53%	12.37%
skc	ari	0.215	0.175	-0.040	-18.60%
	idt	0.150	0.290	0.140	93.33%
	mcs	0.235	0.160	-0.075	-31.91%
	qbe	11.210	13.700	2.490	22.21%
	sea	0.525	0.605	0.080	15.24%	16.05%
Smurf1976	bpt	1.045	1.110	0.065	6.22%
	osh	7.890	8.090	0.200	2.53%
	sto	8.250	8.300	0.050	0.61%
	wpl	38.010	35.050	-2.960	-7.79%
				0.000		0.03%
So_Cynical	acx	1.760	2.300	0.540	30.68%
	clv	0.300	0.205	-0.095	-31.67%
	mxi	0.530	0.440	-0.090	-16.98%
	ric	0.940	1.130	0.190	20.21%
	ved	2.290	2.290	0.000	0.00%	0.45%
Systematic	aiz	2.370	2.570	0.200	8.44%
	apn	0.835	0.940	0.105	12.57%
	asb	1.505	1.990	0.485	32.23%
	lau	0.390	0.480	0.090	23.08%
	rex	1.030	0.970	-0.060	-5.83%	14.10%
The Falcon	eld	2.400	2.910	0.510	21.25%
	org	11.670	12.740	1.070	9.17%
	sto	8.250	8.300	0.050	0.61%
	svw	5.820	7.360	1.540	26.46%
	wow	30.680	29.480	-1.200	-3.91%	10.71%
tinhat	cdu	1.950	1.410	-0.540	-27.69%
	flt	32.620	43.430	10.810	33.14%
	gem	4.170	3.610	-0.560	-13.43%
	hzn	0.160	0.120	-0.040	-25.00%
	tgs	0.130	0.059	-0.071	-54.62%	-17.52%
trillionare#1	byl	0.380	0.355	-0.025	-6.58%
	fln	0.650	0.990	0.340	52.31%
	flt	32.620	43.430	10.810	33.14%
	lgd	0.250	0.230	-0.020	-8.00%
	mrm	1.240	0.700	-0.540	-43.55%	5.46%
Umike	bhp	29.370	31.970	2.600	8.85%
	cvn	0.135	0.120	-0.015	-11.11%
	kcn	0.660	0.705	0.045	6.82%
	pan	0.420	0.520	0.100	23.81%
	qbe	11.210	13.700	2.490	22.21%	10.12%
wysiwyg	ccl	9.320	10.270	0.950	10.19%
	cdd	3.420	3.460	0.040	1.17%
	nvt	5.080	4.630	-0.450	-8.86%
	tgr	3.910	3.240	-0.670	-17.14%
	tox	2.380	3.020	0.640	26.89%	2.45%

ISSH has leapt to a very impressive lead with a current increase in portfolio value of 37.53%.

systematic · 30 May 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

nulla nulla said:
The update for the tipping competition for 2015 as at 30 April 2015 follows (sorry for the delay)

I forgot to do my usual...

12 of 34 outperforming all ords (7.1%)

I'll also start adding:

11 of 29 entrants (with 5 picks) outperforming. So that makes the percentage a bit better.

Of those 11 entrants (with 5 picks, overall outperforming the all ords):

- Several have 4 of their 5 picks individually outperforming the all ords.

- Only issh has all 5 picks in the black.

Go issh!

Thanks for updating nulla nulla, glad you're on it.

nulla nulla · 31 May 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

The update for the 2015 Tipping competition as at 31 May 2015 follows (Close of trade Friday 29 May 2015):

Name	Share	31-Dec-14	29-May-15	Change $	Change %	Portfolio
						Change %
Ariyahn2011	fmg	2.740	2.420	-0.320	-11.68%
	ooo	28.910	27.620	-1.290	-4.46%
	rio	58.000	58.200	0.200	0.34%
	sto	8.250	8.250	0.000	0.00%
				0.000		-3.95%
Bazmate	ben	12.810	12.290	-0.520	-4.06%
	egp	3.790	4.680	0.890	23.48%
	ipl	3.190	3.990	0.800	25.08%
	jbh	15.790	21.850	6.060	38.38%
	qan	2.400	3.520	1.120	46.67%	25.91%
Burglar	ago	0.165	0.120	-0.045	-27.27%
	bci	0.530	0.390	-0.140	-26.42%
	fmg	2.740	2.420	-0.320	-11.68%
	fms	0.013	0.016	0.003	23.08%
	gbg	0.020	0.026	0.006	30.00%	-2.46%
Chipmunk3d	ajx	0.485	0.500	0.015	3.09%
	iph	3.500	4.900	1.400	40.00%
	neu	0.120	0.089	-0.031	-25.83%
	osh	7.890	7.600	-0.290	-3.68%
	voc	6.400	5.850	-0.550	-8.59%	1.00%
evilk9	bpt	1.045	1.100	0.055	5.26%
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000		5.26%
Garpel Gumnut	bhp	29.370	29.590	0.220	0.75%
	rio	58.000	58.200	0.200	0.34%
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000		0.55%
hhse	asl	0.390	0.420	0.030	7.69%
	cwn	12.690	13.090	0.400	3.15%
	fmg	2.740	2.420	-0.320	-11.68%
	org	11.670	13.310	1.640	14.05%
	ori	18.950	21.890	2.940	15.51%	5.75%
issh	ajx	0.485	0.500	0.015	3.09%
	cwn	12.690	13.090	0.400	3.15%
	1pg	1.180	1.595	0.415	35.17%
	lng	2.420	4.180	1.760	72.73%
	sto	8.250	8.250	0.000	0.00%	22.83%
jblocker	mrm	1.240	0.610	-0.630	-50.81%
	nwh	0.360	0.195	-0.165	-45.83%
	sto	8.250	8.250	0.000	0.00%
	swm	1.350	1.250	-0.100	-7.41%
	wpl	38.010	36.530	-1.480	-3.89%	-21.59%
Klogg	bol	0.140	0.115	-0.025	-17.86%
	ddr	1.570	1.920	0.350	22.29%
	ssm	0.185	0.325	0.140	75.68%
	tsm	0.335	0.325	-0.010	-2.99%
	uos	0.500	0.530	0.030	6.00%	16.63%
Know the past	bol	0.140	0.115	-0.025	-17.86%
	clt	0.190	0.180	-0.010	-5.26%
	nwh	0.360	0.195	-0.165	-45.83%
	sbb	0.068	0.054	-0.014	-20.59%
	vet	0.225	0.135	-0.090	-40.00%	-25.91%
Krackdawg	sxy	0.320	0.390	0.070	21.88%
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000		21.88%
logique	amm	2.930	2.350	-0.580	-19.80%
	bhp	29.370	29.590	0.220	0.75%
	fmg	2.740	2.420	-0.320	-11.68%
	ilu	5.950	9.000	3.050	51.26%
	sto	8.250	8.250	0.000	0.00%	4.11%
Miner	ago	0.165	0.120	-0.045	-27.27%
	bno	0.430	0.405	-0.025	-5.81%
	cdd	3.420	3.050	-0.370	-10.82%
	nea	0.665	0.565	-0.100	-15.04%
	pxg	0.098	0.079	-0.019	-19.39%	-15.67%
Muschu	boq	12.180	13.250	1.070	8.78%
	gem	4.170	3.750	-0.420	-10.07%
	min	7.580	7.630	0.050	0.66%
	nvt	5.080	4.740	-0.340	-6.69%
	wes	41.720	43.660	1.940	4.65%	-0.53%
needsajet	amm	2.930	2.350	-0.580	-19.80%
	jbh	15.790	21.850	6.060	38.38%
	mrm	1.240	0.610	-0.630	-50.81%
	rio	58.000	58.200	0.200	0.34%
	tol	5.890	9.020	3.130	53.14%	4.25%
nulla nulla	dxs	6.970	8.010	1.040	14.92%
	fdc	2.870	3.040	0.170	5.92%
	fmg	2.740	2.420	-0.320	-11.68%
	nvn	2.120	2.440	0.320	15.09%
	scp	1.855	2.160	0.305	16.44%	8.14%
Paavfc	aek	0.072	0.075	0.003	4.17%
	enr	0.130	0.180	0.050	38.46%
	rdm	0.081	0.042	-0.039	-48.15%
	sgq	0.063	0.089	0.026	41.27%
	tpp	0.050	0.058	0.008	16.00%	10.35%
peter2	hsn	1.820	2.590	0.770	42.31%
	osh	7.890	7.600	-0.290	-3.68%
	smx	3.530	3.240	-0.290	-8.22%
	tol	5.890	9.020	3.130	53.14%
	wpl	38.010	36.630	-1.380	-3.63%	15.99%
PinkBoy	anz	32.090	33.190	1.100	3.43%
	boq	12.180	13.250	1.070	8.78%
	cba	85.650	85.090	-0.560	-0.65%
	iag	6.250	5.660	-0.590	-9.44%
	wes	41.720	43.660	1.940	4.65%	1.35%
pixel	aac	1.480	1.390	-0.090	-6.08%
	drm	0.480	0.445	-0.035	-7.29%
	ric	0.940	1.190	0.250	26.60%
	tlg	0.240	0.430	0.190	79.17%
	wor	10.080	10.890	0.810	8.04%	20.09%
PurpleSX2	aei	0.290	0.490	0.200	68.97%
	ahz	0.120	0.069	-0.051	-42.50%
	avx	0.016	0.011	-0.005	-31.25%
	blt	0.955	0.790	-0.165	-17.28%
	eos	0.815	1.050	0.235	28.83%	1.35%
Robusta	dna	0.755	0.745	-0.010	-1.32%
	icq	1.090	0.980	-0.110	-10.09%
	ipp	2.680	2.680	0.000	0.00%
	nvt	5.080	4.740	-0.340	-6.69%
	srx	28.370	26.680	-1.690	-5.96%	-4.81%
ROE	orl	3.800	2.060	-1.740	-45.79%
	rfg	5.760	6.650	0.890	15.45%
	siq	1.465	1.900	0.435	29.69%
	sul	7.150	10.700	3.550	49.65%
	ved	2.290	2.300	0.010	0.44%	9.89%
shouldaindex	eax	2.400	1.290	-1.110	-46.25%
	flt	32.620	46.550	13.930	42.70%
	mvf	1.400	1.605	0.205	14.64%
	tox	2.380	3.150	0.770	32.35%
	trs	6.150	6.890	0.740	12.03%	11.10%
skc	ari	0.215	0.175	-0.040	-18.60%
	idt	0.150	0.225	0.075	50.00%
	mcs	0.235	0.125	-0.110	-46.81%
	qbe	11.210	14.650	3.440	30.69%
	sea	0.525	0.585	0.060	11.43%	5.34%
Smurf1976	bpt	1.045	1.100	0.055	5.26%
	osh	7.890	7.600	-0.290	-3.68%
	sto	8.250	8.250	0.000	0.00%
	wpl	38.010	36.630	-1.380	-3.63%
				0.000		-0.05%
So_Cynical	acx	1.760	2.500	0.740	42.05%
	clv	0.300	0.180	-0.120	-40.00%
	mxi	0.530	0.470	-0.060	-11.32%
	ric	0.940	1.190	0.250	26.60%
	ved	2.290	2.300	0.010	0.44%	3.55%
Systematic	aiz	2.370	2.750	0.380	16.03%
	apn	0.835	0.845	0.010	1.20%
	asb	1.505	1.830	0.325	21.59%
	lau	0.390	0.510	0.120	30.77%
	rex	1.030	0.990	-0.040	-3.88%	13.14%
The Falcon	eld	2.400	3.810	1.410	58.75%
	org	11.670	13.310	1.640	14.05%
	sto	8.250	8.250	0.000	0.00%
	svw	5.820	7.630	1.810	31.10%
	wow	30.680	28.000	-2.680	-8.74%	19.03%
tinhat	cdu	1.950	1.275	-0.675	-34.62%
	flt	32.620	46.550	13.930	42.70%
	gem	4.170	3.750	-0.420	-10.07%
	hzn	0.160	0.100	-0.060	-37.50%
	tgs	0.130	0.087	-0.043	-33.08%	-14.51%
trillionare#1	byl	0.380	0.350	-0.030	-7.89%
	fln	0.650	1.150	0.500	76.92%
	flt	32.620	46.550	13.930	42.70%
	lgd	0.250	0.250	0.000	0.00%
	mrm	1.240	0.610	-0.630	-50.81%	12.19%
Umike	bhp	29.370	29.590	0.220	0.75%
	cvn	0.135	0.115	-0.020	-14.81%
	kcn	0.660	0.810	0.150	22.73%
	pan	0.420	0.530	0.110	26.19%
	qbe	11.210	14.650	3.440	30.69%	13.11%
wysiwyg	ccl	9.320	10.090	0.770	8.26%
	cdd	3.420	3.050	-0.370	-10.82%
	nvt	5.080	4.740	-0.340	-6.69%
	tgr	3.910	3.300	-0.610	-15.60%
	tox	2.380	3.150	0.770	32.35%	1.50%

Bazmate is the new leader with a capital growth of 25.9%, followed closely by issh on 22.83%, krackdawg on 21.88% and pixel on 20.09%. With the take-over/merger of fdc and nvn I will continue to show the last traded price of nvn in future month end updates. 17 members out of 34 are currently generating a return better than 5%.

systematic · 31 May 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

Thanks nulla nulla.

14 of 34 entrants outperforming all ords.

13 of 29 entrants (with 5 picks) outperforming all ords.

Of those 13 entrants...only issh is in the black with each individual pick (no one is outperforming with each individual pick).

issh · 3 July 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

Here's an update as of 3rd July 2015
Better Link right here:
http://i.imgur.com/FUgnmKk.jpg

Statistics
13 of 34 in the Black
Cumulative Average : -1.39%
Minimum: -28.71%
Maximum: 34.74%

Seems like noone has a full portfolio in the black unfortunately.

So_Cynical · 4 July 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

Congrats to me with ACX the single biggest winner with a 101% rise....and i actually own it as well - real money!

nulla nulla · 5 July 2015

Re: Tipping Comp for Full CY 2015

The update for the 2015 Tipping competition as at 30 June 2015 follows (Close of trade Tuesday 30 June 2015):

Name	Share	31-Dec-14	30-Jun-15	Change $	Change %	Portfolio
						Change %
Ariyahn2011	fmg	2.740	1.910	-0.830	-30.29%
	ooo	28.910	27.440	-1.470	-5.08%
	rio	58.000	53.750	-4.250	-7.33%
	sto	8.250	7.830	-0.420	-5.09%
				0.000		-11.95%
Bazmate	ben	12.810	12.260	-0.550	-4.29%
	egp	3.790	4.360	0.570	15.04%
	ipl	3.190	3.850	0.660	20.69%
	jbh	15.790	19.480	3.690	23.37%
	qan	2.400	3.160	0.760	31.67%	17.29%
Burglar	ago	0.165	0.120	-0.045	-27.27%
	bci	0.530	0.290	-0.240	-45.28%
	fmg	2.740	1.910	-0.830	-30.29%
	fms	0.013	0.016	0.003	23.08%
	gbg	0.020	0.020	0.000	0.00%	-15.95%
Chipmunk3d	ajx	0.485	0.630	0.145	29.90%
	iph	3.500	4.700	1.200	34.29%
	neu	0.120	0.079	-0.041	-34.17%
	osh	7.890	7.130	-0.760	-9.63%
	voc	6.400	5.770	-0.630	-9.84%	2.11%
evilk9	bpt	1.045	1.050	0.005	0.48%
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000		0.48%
Garpel Gumnut	bhp	29.370	27.050	-2.320	-7.90%
	rio	58.000	53.750	-4.250	-7.33%
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000		-7.61%
hhse	asl	0.390	0.390	0.000	0.00%
	cwn	12.690	12.200	-0.490	-3.86%
	fmg	2.740	1.910	-0.830	-30.29%
	org	11.670	11.970	0.300	2.57%
	ori	18.950	21.280	2.330	12.30%	-3.86%
issh	ajx	0.485	0.630	0.145	29.90%
	cwn	12.690	12.200	-0.490	-3.86%
	1pg	1.180	1.940	0.760	64.41%
	lng	2.420	3.810	1.390	57.44%
	sto	8.250	7.830	-0.420	-5.09%	28.56%
jblocker	mrm	1.240	0.535	-0.705	-56.85%
	nwh	0.360	0.185	-0.175	-48.61%
	sto	8.250	7.830	-0.420	-5.09%
	swm	1.350	1.020	-0.330	-24.44%
	wpl	38.010	34.230	-3.780	-9.94%	-28.99%
Klogg	bol	0.140	0.120	-0.020	-14.29%
	ddr	1.570	1.890	0.320	20.38%
	ssm	0.185	0.295	0.110	59.46%
	tsm	0.335	0.310	-0.025	-7.46%
	uos	0.500	0.540	0.040	8.00%	13.22%
Know the past	bol	0.140	0.120	-0.020	-14.29%
	clt	0.190	0.190	0.000	0.00%
	nwh	0.360	0.185	-0.175	-48.61%
	sbb	0.068	0.053	-0.015	-22.06%
	vet	0.225	0.100	-0.125	-55.56%	-28.10%
Krackdawg	sxy	0.320	0.280	-0.040	-12.50%
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000
				0.000		-12.50%
logique	amm	2.930	2.600	-0.330	-11.26%
	bhp	29.370	27.050	-2.320	-7.90%
	fmg	2.740	1.910	-0.830	-30.29%
	ilu	5.950	7.680	1.730	29.08%
	sto	8.250	7.830	-0.420	-5.09%	-5.09%
Miner	ago	0.165	0.120	-0.045	-27.27%
	bno	0.430	0.415	-0.015	-3.49%
	cdd	3.420	3.230	-0.190	-5.56%
	nea	0.665	0.590	-0.075	-11.28%
	pxg	0.098	0.110	0.012	12.24%	-7.07%
Muschu	boq	12.180	12.770	0.590	4.84%
	gem	4.170	3.260	-0.910	-21.82%
	min	7.580	6.600	-0.980	-12.93%
	nvt	5.080	4.290	-0.790	-15.55%
	wes	41.720	39.030	-2.690	-6.45%	-10.38%
needsajet	amm	2.930	2.600	-0.330	-11.26%
	jbh	15.790	19.480	3.690	23.37%
	mrm	1.240	0.535	-0.705	-56.85%
	rio	58.000	53.750	-4.250	-7.33%
	tol	5.890	9.020	3.130	53.14%	0.21%
nulla nulla	dxs	6.970	7.300	0.330	4.73%
	fdc	2.870	2.920	0.050	1.74%
	fmg	2.740	1.910	-0.830	-30.29%
	nvn	2.120	2.440	0.320	15.09%
	scp	1.855	2.130	0.275	14.82%	1.22%
Paavfc	aek	0.072	0.077	0.005	6.94%
	enr	0.130	0.190	0.060	46.15%
	rdm	0.081	0.038	-0.043	-53.09%
	sgq	0.063	0.088	0.025	39.68%
	tpp	0.050	0.040	-0.010	-20.00%	3.94%
peter2	hsn	1.820	2.620	0.800	43.96%
	osh	7.890	7.130	-0.760	-9.63%
	smx	3.530	3.460	-0.070	-1.98%
	tol	5.890	9.020	3.130	53.14%
	wpl	38.010	34.230	-3.780	-9.94%	15.11%
PinkBoy	anz	32.090	32.200	0.110	0.34%
	boq	12.180	12.770	0.590	4.84%
	cba	85.650	85.090	-0.560	-0.65%
	iag	6.250	5.580	-0.670	-10.72%
	wes	41.720	39.030	-2.690	-6.45%	-2.53%
pixel	aac	1.480	1.235	-0.245	-16.55%
	drm	0.480	0.475	-0.005	-1.04%
	ric	0.940	1.250	0.310	32.98%
	tlg	0.240	0.395	0.155	64.58%
	wor	10.080	10.410	0.330	3.27%	16.65%
PurpleSX2	aei	0.290	0.440	0.150	51.72%
	ahz	0.120	0.070	-0.050	-41.67%
	avx	0.016	0.007	-0.009	-56.25%
	blt	0.955	0.690	-0.265	-27.75%
	eos	0.815	0.945	0.130	15.95%	-11.60%
Robusta	dna	0.755	0.750	-0.005	-0.66%
	icq	1.090	0.705	-0.385	-35.32%
	ipp	2.680	2.400	-0.280	-10.45%
	nvt	5.080	4.290	-0.790	-15.55%
	srx	28.370	29.050	0.680	2.40%	-11.92%
ROE	orl	3.800	2.050	-1.750	-46.05%
	rfg	5.760	5.430	-0.330	-5.73%
	siq	1.465	2.200	0.735	50.17%
	sul	7.150	9.140	1.990	27.83%
	ved	2.290	2.220	-0.070	-3.06%	4.63%
shouldaindex	eax	2.400	0.920	-1.480	-61.67%
	flt	32.620	34.110	1.490	4.57%
	mvf	1.400	1.280	-0.120	-8.57%
	tox	2.380	3.020	0.640	26.89%
	trs	6.150	5.360	-0.790	-12.85%	-10.33%
skc	ari	0.215	0.135	-0.080	-37.21%
	idt	0.150	0.230	0.080	53.33%
	mcs	0.235	0.100	-0.135	-57.45%
	qbe	11.210	13.670	2.460	21.94%
	sea	0.525	0.505	-0.020	-3.81%	-4.64%
Smurf1976	bpt	1.045	1.050	0.005	0.48%
	osh	7.890	7.130	-0.760	-9.63%
	sto	8.250	7.830	-0.420	-5.09%
	wpl	38.010	34.230	-3.780	-9.94%
				0.000		-0.54%
So_Cynical	acx	1.760	3.130	1.370	77.84%
	clv	0.300	0.160	-0.140	-46.67%
	mxi	0.530	0.395	-0.135	-25.47%
	ric	0.940	1.250	0.310	32.98%
	ved	2.290	2.220	-0.070	-3.06%	7.12%
Systematic	aiz	2.370	2.250	-0.120	-5.06%
	apn	0.835	0.710	-0.125	-14.97%
	asb	1.505	1.845	0.340	22.59%
	lau	0.390	0.450	0.060	15.38%
	rex	1.030	1.040	0.010	0.97%	3.78%
The Falcon	eld	2.400	3.450	1.050	43.75%
	org	11.670	11.970	0.300	2.57%
	sto	8.250	7.830	-0.420	-5.09%
	svw	5.820	6.540	0.720	12.37%
	wow	30.680	26.960	-3.720	-12.13%	8.30%
tinhat	cdu	1.950	1.700	-0.250	-12.82%
	flt	32.620	34.110	1.490	4.57%
	gem	4.170	3.260	-0.910	-21.82%
	hzn	0.160	0.088	-0.072	-45.00%
	tgs	0.130	0.070	-0.060	-46.15%	-24.25%
trillionare#1	byl	0.380	0.345	-0.035	-9.21%
	fln	0.650	1.250	0.600	92.31%
	flt	32.620	34.110	1.490	4.57%
	lgd	0.250	0.260	0.010	4.00%
	mrm	1.240	0.535	-0.705	-56.85%	6.96%
Umike	bhp	29.370	27.050	-2.320	-7.90%
	cvn	0.135	0.115	-0.020	-14.81%
	kcn	0.660	0.695	0.035	5.30%
	pan	0.420	0.465	0.045	10.71%
	qbe	11.210	13.670	2.460	21.94%	3.05%
wysiwyg	ccl	9.320	9.150	-0.170	-1.82%
	cdd	3.420	3.230	-0.190	-5.56%
	nvt	5.080	4.290	-0.790	-15.55%
	tgr	3.910	3.330	-0.580	-14.83%
	tox	2.380	3.020	0.640	26.89%	-2.17%

issh continues to show a return in excess of 28% with Bazzmate and Pixel in second and third place. Only 16 entries are in profit and while so_cynical has a high score on acx at 77.84%, trillianare#1 has a return of 92.31% on fln. Unfortunately for both so_cynical and trillianare#1 their other choices have dragged back the overall return of their selections. There is still six months to go and anything can happen.

Tipping Competition for Full CY 2015

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