The Voice

[rederob]

Is there a reason you cannot understand that her points trump your opinion?

I did not offer an opinion.
I showed that the Voice operates in a way Williams does not understand.
It is not helpful that you continue to use of logically fallacious arguments.

 

[JohnDe]

I did not offer an opinion.
I showed that the Voice operates in a way Williams does not understand.
It is not helpful that you continue to use of logically fallacious arguments.

That's your opinion.

I believe that Professor Victoria Grieves Williams is more knowledgeable than you on this subject.

 

[rederob]

I believe that Professor Victoria Grieves Williams is more knowledgeable than you on this subject.

Then you should show that to be the case instead of repeating false claims ad nauseum.
Can you do that?
Or will you find another copypaste that makes no sense and claim it as yours?

 

[wayneL]

Stan makes the no case

 

[JohnDe]

Then you should show that to be the case instead of repeating false claims ad nauseum.
Can you do that?
Or will you find another copypaste that makes no sense and claim it as yours?

What you don't understand is that the copy & pasted articles are from people with qualifications that far outstrip the username that you are. I am copying and pasting facts, you are posting opinions, nothing more.

You are allowed your opinion, but to then say that your opinion holds great weight is ludicrous and egoistical. Your example "I put Williams in the Mundine camp; well intentioned but failing to understand that the Voice actually addresses their principal concerns" is ridiculous.

Both Professor Victoria Grieves Williams and Warren Mundine have pointed out their concerns, and I have posted them because I agree with them. Why should I re-invent the wheel when it is right in front of us?

What you can't understand is that after all your rhetoric you have been unable to persuade me, the Professor Williams or Warren Mundine. Your opinions have been trumped, and your argumentative egotistical posts have done the opposite of what you wanted.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/this-voice-does-not-speak-for-the-real-aboriginal-australia/news-story/5518343b429c4ca5b53429b84b6d0566

 

[rederob]

What you don't understand is that the copy & pasted articles are from people with qualifications that far outstrip the username that you are.

You keep saying that but cannot prove it to be true. Why is that?

I am copying and pasting facts, you are posting opinions, nothing more.

You have never shown that my statements, which accurately reflect what the Voice proposes, could be other than statements of fact.

You are allowed your opinion,

Show where I have expressed an opinion.

Both Professor Victoria Grieves Williams and Warren Mundine have pointed out their concerns, and I have posted them because I agree with them.

I realise that is the case, and I gave reasons why their points were either contradictory or had no relationship to the Voice.

What you can't understand is that after all your rhetoric you have been unable to persuade me

I don't set out to persuade anyone. If you cannot tell the difference between lies, disinformation and irrelevances then it's an issue for you to resolve.

 

[JohnDe]

You keep saying that but cannot prove it to be true.

So do you.

You have proven nothing with your opinions.

 

[JohnDe]

You have never shown that my statements, which accurately reflect what the Voice proposes, could be other than statements of fact.

That is the problem, your statements do not accurately reflect what the Voice proposes. If it did you would have job with the Yes campaign and the majority of voters would be voting with you. However, that is not the case. And if you bothered to try and understand everyone's concern, rather than thinking everyone a fool, you would have realised the issues.

 

[JohnDe]

Stan makes the no case

Commonsense, not so common. It is refreshing to see that video; I hope that others can understand.

 

[farmerge]

You mean "one law for all" except when you are a primary producer!

More than primary producers can receive the fuel rebate, many many businesses

 

[rederob]

More than primary producers can receive the fuel rebate, many many businesses

How many ATSI communities can get it?

 

[rederob]

That is the problem, your statements do not accurately reflect what the Voice proposes.

Never have you made a comment that shows that to be true.

If it did you would have job with the Yes campaign and the majority of voters would be voting with you.

Neither of those points are relevant.

And if you bothered to try and understand everyone's concern, rather than thinking everyone a fool, you would have realised the issues.

How about you stump up with a rebuttal to my points instead of resorting to lies.

 

[JohnDe]

I don't set out to persuade anyone.

If only that was true.

 

[Logique2]

On a rare visit in here.

Never stand between an activist and a big pot of free money.

Noel Pearson in the media in recent times. He hasn't forgotten how the Feds cancelled the old ATSIC. It was rotten to the core. Crooked.

Now he wants his own back, and politically, he's got the inner city nitwits in power.

In general terms, if you can't see a spiv coming ..honestly you're not going to last long as a stock market trader!

The same people who blockaded the Springboks 1971 rugby tour - they now want us to vote for Australian apartheid!

 

[farmerge]

How many ATSI communities can get it?

Not really interested in who how or what.
The fuel rebate is available to anyone that can legitimately claim it.
It is not that hard to get.
All remote settlements that use diesel for power will be claiming the rebate guaranteed.
The End

 

[rederob]

Not really interested in who how or what.

You just showed that your claim of equality under the law was bogus.

 

[SirRumpole]

You just showed that your claim of equality under the law was bogus.

Rubbish.

Are you saying that the tax law is racially biased ?

Prove it

 

[rederob]

On a rare visit in here.

Never stand between an activist and a big pot of free money.

Noel Pearson in the media in recent times. He hasn't forgotten how the Feds cancelled the old ATSIC. It was rotten to the core. Crooked.

Now he wants his own back, and politically, he's got the inner city nitwits in power.

In general terms, if you can't see a spiv coming ..honestly you're not going to last long as a stock market trader!

The same people who blockaded the Springboks 1971 rugby tour - they now want us to vote for Australian apartheid!

Not a single word was relevant to the referendum proposal.
But luckily for you that type of post is not so rare in this thread.

 

[rederob]

Rubbish.

Are you saying that the tax law is racially biased ?

Prove it

@farmerge showed that laws are not applied equally.
Your straw man tactic is typical of your constant diversions an incomprehensible posts.
How about you prove something seeing I have never seen you capable of defending a single point of yours that I have queried.

 

[SirRumpole]

@farmerge showed that laws are not applied equally.
Your straw man tactic is typical of your constant diversions an incomprehensible posts.
How about you prove something seeing I have never seen you capable of defending a single point of yours that I have queried.

Well you certainly can't defend your latest piece of tripe.