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IFocus said:
Albanese gave an excellent and heartfelt speech considerate of the let down to many Aboriginals while giving them hope for the future.

PM with a heart in the right place long time since the last one not likely to see another for a while.

I hope those that put their efforts into improving outcomes for Aboriginals take this in their stride and keep working on solutions.
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There is nothing stopping him holding a summit in Alice Springs where interested parties can give their views.

Having one every three years or so would provide ongoing input.

The country clearly wants a Constitution where everyone is treated equally regardless of race. That point appears to have been lost on the Voice proponents.
 
SirRumpole said:
There is nothing stopping him holding a summit in Alice Springs where interested parties can give their views.

Having one every three years or so would provide ongoing input.

The country clearly wants a Constitution where everyone is treated equally regardless of race. That point appears to have been lost on the Voice proponents.
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Yes the elites have been well and truly told to naff off. The positive is that maybe the focus will shift to the disadvantaged rather than the Langdons and the Mayos.

This result is not a repudiation of goodwill and may actually increase it.
 
The ACT was the only state or territry to get a majority Yes vote.
Doubt there would be too many ACT first nations people on country in the ACT.
NT, which has around a 25% Aboriginal population, had a 65% no vote.
And still the elites say it was the fault of a bunch of lies from the No camp, and in particular, Dutton.
if I was in Dutton shoes, I would turn around and introduce a private members bill to set up a voice to the parliament, sans the constitutional change.
See how many of the greens, independants and labour would support it.
How many of of the sport stars , A listers, business orgs and their directors, media personalities etc will now turn around and admit that they may be a tad out of touch with mainstream Australia?
The next question is, was this a one off, or does it herald a change in attitude of the non elites towards those who demand that everyone just think like the elites do?
Perhaps its worth looking at the results in New Zealand tonight where the seemingly impregnable Labour party once led by the formidable Jacinda Ahern has been decimated with their primary vote halved.

Mick
 
IFocus said:
Albanese gave an excellent and heartfelt speech considerate of the let down to many Aboriginals while giving them hope for the future.

PM with a heart in the right place long time since the last one not likely to see another for a while.

I hope those that put their efforts into improving outcomes for Aboriginals take this in their stride and keep working on solutions.
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How many aboriginals voted yes?
 
IFocus said:
Albanese gave an excellent and heartfelt speech considerate of the let down to many Aboriginals while giving them hope for the future.

PM with a heart in the right place long time since the last one not likely to see another for a while.

I hope those that put their efforts into improving outcomes for Aboriginals take this in their stride and keep working on solutions.
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What Albo has to realise is, he is there for everyone not just the bleeding hearts society and I don't mean that in a disparagin way.
But middle Australia, those who endlessly go to work and pay their taxes, get up every morning and start the grind, or climb on a plane to do a swing away from their families, or work shift work through the night, in the hope that they can get ahead.

They are the ones who pay for the welfare, that the politicians are so keen to throw around, while sitting in their chardonnay bubble.
Without them there is no welfare payments.

Unless someone does something about the housing ponzi, Albos @rse will be in a sling, take that to the bank.
The really sad part is Albo is the best we have at the moment, he needs to get his $hit together IMO.
Houses at 7_10 times the average wage is stupid, in a country with so much open space.
Someone needs to sort it out and soon IMO.
 
sptrawler said:
What Albo has to realise is, he is there for everyone not just the bleeding hearts society and I don't mean that in a disparagin way.
But middle Australia, those who endlessly go to work and pay their taxes, get up every morning and start the grind, or climb on a plane to do a swing away from their families, or work shift work through the night, in the hope that they can get ahead.

They are the ones who pay for the welfare, that the politicians are so keen to throw around, while sitting in their chardonnay bubble.
Without them there is no welfare payments.

Unless someone does something about the housing ponzi, Albos @rse will be in a sling, take that to the bank.
The really sad part is Albo is the best we have at the moment, he needs to get his $hit together IMO.
Houses at 7_10 times the average wage is stupid, in a country with so much open space.
Someone needs to sort it out and soon IMO.
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Can't wait for the handwringers on Insiders tomorrow. :)
 
SirRumpole said:
Can't they make it a year or two ?

www.abc.net.au

Indigenous Yes campaigners call for week of silence to grieve 'tragic' referendum defeat

Yes campaigners say now is "not the time to dissect the reasons" the Voice to Parliament referendum was defeated.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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This is going to be the end of Labor, yet again, why can't they learn.
Admitting that a department, that is costing taxpayers billions of dollars a year is useless and asking them to put in another level.
Is dumb $hit.
 
Looks like the knives are coming out, this will teach big business not to stick its nose where it doesn't belong.

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One of the more prominent No supporters, minister for Aborigial affairs, first nations person Linda Burney, representing Barton in NSW, recorded a 55%no vote in her own electorate.
Richard Marles Geelong seat had a no vote of 52%
Chris Bowens seat returned a 60% no vote.as did Tony Burke's seat.
If , as so many of the no supporters said, the loss was entirely due to lies and untruths from the no Camp, what does it say about the ability of these people to sell the story in their own electorates?
Will it transpire to rejection at the ballot box at the next election, or will voters compartmentalise this as a one off?
Mick
 
mullokintyre said:
One of the more prominent No supporters, minister for Aborigial affairs, first nations person Linda Burney, representing Barton in NSW, recorded a 55%no vote in her own electorate.
Richard Marles Geelong seat had a no vote of 52%
Chris Bowens seat returned a 60% no vote.as did Tony Burke's seat.
If , as so many of the no supporters said, the loss was entirely due to lies and untruths from the no Camp, what does it say about the ability of these people to sell the story in their own electorates?
Will it transpire to rejection at the ballot box at the next election, or will voters compartmentalise this as a one off?
Mick
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Voters will vote for the party they think will make them better off.

The hip pocket nerve is very sensitive.
 
Smurf1976 said:
If the right approach is taken then it could be the springboard from which to do something extremely quickly.

Quickly as in weeks if government wants it to happen and I mean that literally. :2twocents
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I don't know if the government can do much when people insist on living a remote lifestyle away from the modern world that provides a lot more opportunities.

That's the sad part imo, "stolen generations" of aboriginal kids forced by their parents to live in isolation when there are many opportunities in the modern world that they can take advantage of.

It's child abuse imo.
 
mullokintyre said:
The ACT was the only state or territry to get a majority Yes vote.
Doubt there would be too many ACT first nations people on country in the ACT.
NT, which has around a 25% Aboriginal population, had a 65% no vote.
And still the elites say it was the fault of a bunch of lies from the No camp, and in particular, Dutton.
if I was in Dutton shoes, I would turn around and introduce a private members bill to set up a voice to the parliament, sans the constitutional change.
See how many of the greens, independants and labour would support it.
How many of of the sport stars , A listers, business orgs and their directors, media personalities etc will now turn around and admit that they may be a tad out of touch with mainstream Australia?
The next question is, was this a one off, or does it herald a change in attitude of the non elites towards those who demand that everyone just think like the elites do?
Perhaps its worth looking at the results in New Zealand tonight where the seemingly impregnable Labour party once led by the formidable Jacinda Ahern has been decimated with their primary vote halved.

Mick
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This is a significant comment on the public service and their politicosocial views. How does a conservative government ever get things done in that environment?
 

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