The Voice

[moXJO]

Not only a waste of time and money, but divided the country for a few inner city leftists.
Stupidly run campaign by a bunch of clueless dopes.

Albo looks like an idiot. The division this has sown won't be forgotten quickly.

 

[wayneL]

Not only a waste of time and money, but divided the country for a few inner city leftists.
Stupidly run campaign by a bunch of clueless dopes.

Albo looks like an idiot. The division this has sown won't be forgotten quickly.

Not just Albo, the whole ¹"elite" class and especially the Aboriginal elite.

Now that they've lost, they are doing even more damage to themselves by behaving like petulant schoolchildren, continuing to insult every Australian that voted yes.

¹ God I hate that word in reference to these clowns. There is nothing elite about them

 

[bk1]

The division this has sown won't be forgotten quickly

Until Australia Day? Anzac Day?
A bit of rioting and flag burning....what will clown shoes say then?

 

[frugal.rock]

Outsiders?

Insideouters?
Upsidedowners?

 

[Sean K]

Not just Albo, the whole ¹"elite" class and especially the Aboriginal elite.

Now that they've lost, they are doing even more damage to themselves by behaving like petulant schoolchildren, continuing to insult every Australian that voted yes.

¹ God I hate that word in reference to these clowns. There is nothing elite about them

I think quite a few of them were expecting this to be a gravy train for the next stage of their activist political careers. No real care about the real issues, just wanted to line their pockets. Dinosaurs and dickheads will say that’s part of the successful scare campaign.

 

[IFocus]

Any adults here?

 

[SirRumpole]

Any adults here?

What do you want to talk about ?

 

[qldfrog]

One of the more prominent No supporters, minister for Aborigial affairs, first nations person Linda Burney, representing Barton in NSW, recorded a 55%no vote in her own electorate.
Richard Marles Geelong seat had a no vote of 52%
Chris Bowens seat returned a 60% no vote.as did Tony Burke's seat.
If , as so many of the no supporters said, the loss was entirely due to lies and untruths from the no Camp, what does it say about the ability of these people to sell the story in their own electorates?
Will it transpire to rejection at the ballot box at the next election, or will voters compartmentalise this as a one off?
Mick

Mick, I think you are a bit confused between the yes and no in the above.
I hope you voted no meaning it, not yes by mistake

 

[qldfrog]

Not only a waste of time and money, but divided the country for a few inner city leftists.
Stupidly run campaign by a bunch of clueless dopes.

Albo looks like an idiot. The division this has sown won't be forgotten quickly.

The last point is what I am sad, it will not heal quickly and we did not need that after the Covid jab divide and destruction.we are losing our soul.
It is a bitter victory after that aparteid attempt, we are all equal in a democracy white yellow black but will remain us vs them.
And I feel it, and them is the them of their ABC, not colour skin based necessarily but it will be for many.
"You" tried to screw us with that referendum, and now that we learnt about the money and support given to no result, the corruption and waste, it will not be easy to play the record of gap closing and linking it to more billions thrown away and wasted.
This is bad for Australia ultimately and we will all turn more selfish as a result.
But a small setback for the WEF plan of rural destruction , food control and corporate appropriation of land.
Just a small setback, enough corrupt politicians left to bribe..

 

[sptrawler]

Interesting article on the ABC website it breaksdown the yes and no vote on a few metrics eg education and wealth.
Funny they didn't add aboriginal population density to it, I would like to see how the vote went by area, where there is a high percentage of aboriginals in the population.
That to me would seem to be the most pertinent stat, not trying to explain why rich people want change and poor people don't and inferring the inner city dwellers have got it right.
Why would inner city dwellers in Canberra , Melbourne and Sydney have a clue as to what is needed by aboriginals.
I can't post up the article with the phone but it is another great case of manipulating stats.


The Guardian had a good representation, as to the demographic layout of the vote.

How did your electorate vote in the voice referendum? Check out our interactive map

While electorate-level results play no part in the overall Indigenous voice referendum outcome, polling data reveals interesting demographic trends

www.theguardian.com

It shows the lopsided influence the two major cities have on Australias outcomes.

map

 

[wayneL]

The last point is what I am sad, it will not heal quickly and we did not need that after the Covid jab divide and destruction.we are losing our soul.
It is a bitter victory after that aparteid attempt, we are all equal in a democracy white yellow black but will remain us vs them.
And I feel it, and them is the them of their ABC, not colour skin based necessarily but it will be for many.
"You" tried to screw us with that referendum, and now that we learnt about the money and support given to no result, the corruption and waste, it will not be easy to play the record of gap closing and linking it to more billions thrown away and wasted.
This is bad for Australia ultimately and we will all turn more selfish as a result.
But a small setback for the WEF plan of rural destruction , food control and corporate appropriation of land.
Just a small setback, enough corrupt politicians left to bribe..

I perhaps naively thought people might start working together to find a viable way forward after this.

Perusal of main stream and social media today has shown how wrong I was about that. The leftist and Aboriginal "elites" are super salty and and seem to intend to increase division and acrimony rather than winding it down.

The fourth turning lives.

 

[sptrawler]

I perhaps naively thought people might start working together to find a viable way forward after this.

Perusal of main stream and social media today has shown how wrong I was about that. The leftist and Aboriginal "elites" are super salty and and seem to intend to increase division and acrimony rather than winding it down.

The fourth turning lives.

This is exactly why I said early on it could be a massive own goal for Albo and Labor, if we look at the composition of the vote 95% of Australia by location voted against it, if this keeps festering people will put it to bed at the next election IMO.

 

[SirRumpole]

This is exactly why I said early on it could be a massive own goal for Albo and Labor, if we look at the composition of the vote 95% of Australia by location voted against it, if this keeps festering people will put it to bed at the next election IMO.

Solid Labor electorates voted No.

Big warning for Labor.

Concentrate on your base or get shafted next election.

 

[sptrawler]

Solid Labor electorates voted No.

Big warning for Labor.

Concentrate on your base or get shafted next election.

Absolutely, what the media should really be saying is, if the rich people from inner Melbourne / Sydney / Canberra were taken out of the vote, it would be nearly 90% of Australians who work for a living voted No.

Media, full of dumb ffks, too stupid to see what is slapping them in the face, because they live in the inner city sector of Melbourne and Sydney.

Thank god we aren't a republic, imagine if the elites were in power always, as in countries like the U.S.

 

[wayneL]

This is exactly why I said early on it could be a massive own goal for Albo and Labor, if we look at the composition of the vote 95% of Australia by location voted against it, if this keeps festering people will put it to bed at the next election IMO.

Perhaps I am biased because I think Albo is a duplicitous POS, but I think his position as leader of the labor party and prime minister is now untenable. He should resign forthwith.

Of great concern is who would replace him, Shorten, Plibersick, Bowen?

Good God

Perhaps this will be a one term government, but then we end up with the illiberals, which apart from a very few standout individuals, is singularly undeserving of government any time in the foreseeable future.

Unfortunately I can't see any way out of things getting very much worse (on several fronts) before they get any better.

To keep things a little on topic I do have a tingling in my loins for Jacinta as
our first indigenous Prime Minister, but as things stand even that would be a complete **** show because of the preponderance of bad faith actors in our political system.

I almost wouldn't want to wish it upon her.

 

[TimeISmoney]

Absolutely, what the media should really be saying is, if the rich people from inner Melbourne / Sydney / Canberra were taken out of the vote, it would be nearly 90% of Australians who work for a living voted No.
Media, full of dumb ffks, too stupid to see what is slapping them in the face, because they live in the inner city sector of Melbourne and Sydney.

They'll be the first ones to squirm like a grub being chased by a magpie. I started off working on BMW, Jags and Mercs in the 90s, doctors, lawyers, CEOs are the biggest tightest pricks I've ever seen in my life.

What's stopping them from paying the rent?

Pay The Rent | Saying Sorry Isn't Enough

paytherent.net.au

 

[sptrawler]

I think Albo will have to quickly move on to other issues, the big problem is IMO, it has made most of Australia very angry.

The vitriol from the Govt has painted the majority of Australians out to be racists, when the fact is Australians just don't agree with changing the constitution.
That reflects badly on a Govt that professes inclusiveness, yet tell everyone vote for this or you get nothing, there is no plan B, ffck the aboriginals and it's your fault.

That isn't a good look coming from a parent, let alone a Govt, that isn't how people should behave.
How can you expect people to take responsibility for their outcomes, when the Govt wont.
Interesting times IMO.
Will the Govt blame itself for pizz poor planning and pizz poor presentation for the result, or blame the voter?

 

[SirRumpole]

I think Albo will have to quickly move on to other issues, the big problem is IMO, it has made most of Australia very angry.

The vitriol from the Govt has painted the majority of Australians out to be racists, when the fact is Australians just don't agree with changing the constitution.
That reflects badly on a Govt that professes inclusiveness, yet tell everyone vote for this or you get nothing, there is no plan B, ffck the aboriginals and it's your fault.

That isn't a good look coming from a parent, let alone a Govt, that isn't how people should behave.
How can you expect people to take responsibility for their outcomes, when the Govt wont.
Interesting times IMO.
Will the Govt blame itself for pizz poor planning and pizz poor presentation for the result, or blame the voter?

Well, I happen to think Albo did this out of altruistic motives, but he just didn't think it through.

Maybe he just wanted it over with so he could get on with other things and hope people have forgotten about it next election.

But to get up and say "no referendum has succeeded without bipartisan support" and then hold the thing anyway makes me think he is either stupid or was clearing the decks to get on with other things.

I certainly hope it's the latter.

 

[sptrawler]

Well, I happen to think Albo did this out of altruistic motives, but he just didn't think it through.

Maybe he just wanted it over with so he could get on with other things and hope people have forgotten about it next election.

But to get up and say "no referendum has succeeded without bipartisan support" and then hold the thing anyway makes me think he is either stupid or was clearing the decks to get on with other things.

I certainly hope it's the latter.

From the result of the vote, he has appeased his voter base in Melbourne / Sydney/ Canberra.

 

[StockyGuy]

Lol how there's yammer about ACT choosing yes as though it adds authority / dignity to the Yes cause - territories are nothing in referenda, brah. They don't count as one of the required states, and ACT is trivial in terms of population in achieving the absolute majority part of the change requirement.