Great article, IMO the last paragraph nailed it.A pretty sober and pragmatic case for a NO vote from Maurice Newman in The Spectator.
Why you should vote No to the Voice | The Spectator Australia
Stan Grant has worked as a television news and political journalist since the 1990s. He is the Charles Sturt University vice-chancellor’s chair of Australian Indigenous Belonging, is an ambassador of…www.spectator.com.au
And if the "Yes" vote gets up, you will claim the referendum was rigged. Another win-win for DB.l'll be voting no
Great article, IMO the last paragraph nailed it.
Even if unpalatable for power-seekers, the solution is obvious and inescapable. Emancipation is inextricably linked to education, jobs and assimilation into modern society.
How much suffering will it take?
I guess after 60 years of seeing the wash rinse repeat, I'm just disappointed, as I said the Alice Springs issue was an ideal opportunity to introduce some meaningful initiatives and what did we get more of the same old same old.Read that very conservative view with no answers to the complexities of the problem and a soft attack piece on Stand Grant.
If it was all so simple as he promulgates then why are we here?
If you read Newmans bio then you will see he has strong opinions but not idea unfortunately.
He has served on boards most his life with no lived experience.
Throw aggressive denial of climate change in....
True.As for no answers to the complex problems, as I said in an earlier post and as I posted later an Alice Springs Dr said exactly the same, they need more social housing, existing social housing requires repairing, the local aboriginal kids need work, join the dots it isn't that difficult.
as is the way today, if it doesn't align with the narrative it is ignored completely.
Just another example of political arrogance that is accepted by rusted on followers of both major parties, that's why nothing gets done
Do you reckon the local aborigines should get a say as to what happens rather than the major political parties, somehow force them to listen? I mean they are making decisions about peoples lives from ivory towers in the big cities, tens of thousands of kilometres away.
What are you trying to say, that the aboriginals have been ignored, I mean seriously!!!True.
Do you reckon the local aborigines should get a say as to what happens rather than the major political parties, somehow force them to listen? I mean they are making decisions about peoples lives from ivory towers in the big cities, tens of thousands of kilometres away.
We could call it a voice. What's the name of this thread again?
NotGovernments are making decisions that affect people's lives every day. Do they ask permission from us beforehand ?
They should but they usually don't.
It should be a normal part of government to ask stakeholder's views before they pass legislation, but that doesn't mean that one group should have a Constitutional right to be consulted while others don't.
What are you trying to say, that the aboriginals have been ignored, I mean seriously!!!
Let's be honest the issues haven't changed, why will a few more words written down make any stuffing difference? Didn't Kev apologies 14 years ago and say it was a new beginning, well was it, no, it was another piz up in Canberra and another round of back slapping.
Way too much BS goes on, how about trying something other than words, that would be novel.
But it seems like words placate the inner city chardonnay sippers and obviously that's all that matters.
So what is stopping politicians from asking the locals?Not
Yea. Bad luck locals. It's up to the big wigs and Chardonnay guzzling crew to say what happens. Someone with a degree in anthropology or similar will decide. Maybe throw some more welfare at em. Worked before.
Just because they are indigenous and live in the bush they want to argue their case. Uppity Blackfellas. Next thing you guys will say we aren't doing an amazing job.
They know better. Good old top down approach. They asked aboriginal communities all over Australia and most just wanted to have their opinion considered before doing the next plan.So what is stopping politicians from asking the locals?
They know better. Good old top down approach. They asked aboriginal communities all over Australia and most just wanted to have their opinion considered before doing the next plan.
And we want to tell them to forget about it.
I am with Peter Dutton. Let's see rhe wording and make a decision then.If the government wants to legislate an indigenous advisory body they can do so. It's been done before with ATSIC, just don't make the same mistakes again.
Rule no 2 in Politics.So what is stopping politicians from asking the locals?
What's rule no 1 ?Rule no 2 in Politics.
Never ask a question unless you are prepared to not get the answer you want, and not like the answer you get.
Mick
Good article, notice the elders want tougher alcohol restrictions.An inconvenient truth, hopefully something more than words, rorts and corruption comes out of the voice.
As I've said enough times already, the only way to break the cycle, is to give the kids jobs, opportunities, trades and a future.
Lip service is the last thing they need, what they need is meaningful work and purpose.
Also by the way, I have spent a fair bit of time in Laverton, staying in the pub and working on their power station, just in case anyone is wondering.
8 Feb 2023
On a Tuesday in this remote town, 20 people are waiting for the bottle-o to open at midday
While Alice Springs is in the national spotlight, temporary liquor restrictions have been introduced in the small West Australian town of Laverton amid ongoing concerns about violence.www.abc.net.au
The elders want the kids to break the cycle, prohabition hasnt worked before, they just find ways of sourcing the grog from other people, or bring it in from other areas by the ute load, or go back to petrol sniffing.Good article, notice the elders want tougher alcohol restrictions.
Dreamers.
An inconvenient truth, hopefully something more than words, rorts and corruption comes out of the voice.
As I've said enough times already, the only way to break the cycle, is to give the kids jobs, opportunities, trades and a future.
Lip service is the last thing they need, what they need is meaningful work and purpose.
Also by the way, I have spent a fair bit of time in Laverton, staying in the pub and working on their power station, just in case anyone is wondering.
8 Feb 2023
On a Tuesday in this remote town, 20 people are waiting for the bottle-o to open at midday
While Alice Springs is in the national spotlight, temporary liquor restrictions have been introduced in the small West Australian town of Laverton amid ongoing concerns about violence.www.abc.net.au
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