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The Voice

A decent article from Paul Kelly, makes sense. A Yes victory will transform our nation's political character, but I think that a strong No vote will as well.

 

ANZ donated 'around $2m' to Yes campaign, chief executive​


Who’s banking with ANZ?
 
Boikov interview, unedited FWIW

Thanks @wayneL

Mrs Groch didn't just lose an interview, no matter whether one is pro or anti-Russia or whether one is Yes or No on the Voice, she got demolished.

Which leads me to an observation not just held by me, that there is a definite loss of journalistic skill in the southern capitals which is put down to factionalism. So instead of being a journalist in an interview, the approach is as an activist.

No wonder the concept of "Fake Media" has taken hold in Australia.

Mrs Groch, arguably was unprofessional and showing her personal beliefs to an inordinate degree.

gg
 
Shonks everywhere

This week The Sydney Morning Herald revealed the No campaign had briefed volunteers to sow fear and doubt in voters’ minds and bank on emotion trumping reason.

But the official website of Fair Australia, the leading No campaign group, has been openly making such claims for some time.

“If Labor and the Greens get their way on the Indigenous Voice to Parliament, say goodbye to Australia Day,” wrote Matthew Sheahan, the mysterious director of the group.



Sheahan runs Advance Australia, its parent company, which is registered to a crowded Canberra office block which also runs campaigns against reducing carbon emissions.

It has been outspoken in its support of Gina Rinehart but has attacked her rival, the green hydrogen proponent Andrew ‘Twiggy’ Forrest.

No group links​

Dr Jeremy Walker, a lecturer of political studies at the University of Technology Sydney, alleges No campaign disinformation is linked to the Atlas Network, a global network of right-wing think tanks and lobby groups that was partly funded by the billionaires Charles and David Koch.

The multibillionaire brothers were (David is now deceased) co-owners of Koch Industries, a conglomerate with interests in petroleum and chemicals, and have been credited with dragging American politics to the right by funding anti-union politicians.

Atlas was described this week by the New Republic as a “shadowy global network” with “powerful allies in the oil, gas, and extractive industries”.

The global network of organisations has previously been funded by the tobacco industry and includes LibertyWorks, an Australian activist group chaired by No campaign frontman Warren Mundine.

LibertyWorks reportedly owed the government more than $170,000 for failed legal cases brought against COVID-19 restrictions.

Advance Australia was contacted for comment.

Voters this week received text messages from Fair Australia’s other lead spokesperson, NT Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price calling the Voice “risky, unknown and divisive” and containing a link to a Liberal Party-run website for casting postal votes on the referendum.

Senator Price’s office did not respond to a request for comment.

Postal voting websites are legal and are used by political parties to collect voters’ personal information.

Experts cited by international newswire Reuters last week said false information about the Voice was being pushed by campaigners who first grew audiences opposing COVID-19 lockdowns.

 
Exactly GG. Yes she did get pwned.

I thought it was interesting in view of the articles cited by @Knobby22 whether or not one agrees with Boikov's views... didn't stop them publishing a hatchet job.

Yep, you are so right. True journalism is dead and buried.
 
They didn't make the yes campaigners say all that dumb sht. The voice is a monumental ****-up delivered by labors dumbest.
 
That bloke is a target of every media and govt department in Australia. It's sadly a sport for them these days, and nothing else better to do while worse crimes are going on every 2 seconds.
 
Hahah!

https://www.heraldsun.com.
 


Why is no one in authority asking why the ABA has $1.4B in the bank, and why the NIAA are not spending it on the development of the mentioned towns and its peoples.

Aboriginals Benefit Account Annual Report 2021-22
At 30 June 2022, the net assets of the Aboriginals Benefit Account (ABA) were $1.419 billion. The NIAA is responsible for advising the minister on the overall policy and financial management of the ABA.
The National Indigenous Australians Agency (NIAA) manages the ABA Homelands Project, a one-off allocation of $56 million made under subsection 64(4) of the Land Rights Act to improve infrastructure other than housing in homelands/outstations across the Northern Territory. The project commenced in early 2018, and all funding is expected to be allocated by mid-2023.

 

It’s a rort’: Sam Newman doubles down on call to boo Welcome to Country in fiery interview

Sam Newman has doubled down on his comments against the Welcome to Country in a fiery interview after being asked “are you a racist?”


The AFL personality stirred up controversy on this week after making comments on his podcast, You Cannot Be Serious, encouraging Aussies to boo or “slow hand clap” during the Welcome to Country, particularly at the upcoming AFL Grand Final at the MCG.

Appearing on 3AW radio on Thursday, Newman was asked by host Tony Jones whether his suggestion was “inciting violence”.

“What an extraordinary question,” Newman said.

“The public have had a gutful of people telling us how to live our lives, particularly footballing organisations. We like to go to the football and watch the game without being told to vote for the gay marriage proposal … without being told to vote for the Voice. Why do they get involved? It is an absolute hoax, it’s a rort, the Welcome to Country. Why do we have to be welcomed to the country we live in? Why is that? It is just a mark of division. The people who welcome you to country get a nice stipend out of it. Why do they charge? It’s just a rort.”
 
They didn't make the yes campaigners say all that dumb sht. The voice is a monumental ****-up delivered by labors dumbest.

Nice to see you back again was worried hope all is OK?

The Yes campaign isn't that great is it nowhere near enough spin and BS and they keep pointing out the bleeding obvious which isn't helpful.

So the Voice won't get up but according to Mundine treaties will, more land will come under Aboriginal control and the date will change along with a lot of other stuff that will empower Aboriginals ironically exactly everything the No voters here don't want.

The Voice on the other hand was a toothless tiger (Mundine though it was a waste of time) carefully written by conservatives to be so but was to be public unlike now or the future.

Oh and some of the No campaign being organised by a bloke hiding from the coppers inside the Russian embassy cause he bashed some one is priceless the Yes campaign should have had one of them also.
 

It would be a brave person these days to start boo'ing during a Welcome at the footy. The AFL/MCG would probably cancel you. The old Bay 13 might have been willing.
 
Funnily enough was helping an elder stop a company mining on aboriginal land.

The Voice and the way it was run is extremely disappointing. It's put back race relations by decades. Too many idiots in control.
 
Should of heard him and Arvi and Rushan tonight.
 
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