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The Voice

If your research worked why hasn't anything in the past worked for indigenous, that research no longer counts does it?

The problem with youth crime is the foundation of their life, if you can't give kids a good foundation you can forget about the rest. It's like the foundation of a house, if that part is compromised you have no chance of building a house that will last. It seems like the basic western values aren't something most are interested in, they continue down the path of drugs, booze, and crime, once you're stuck in that circle of life it is hard to get out no matter what colour you are. You need early intervention with kids, most often or not by the time they realise they've done badly it's too late. You can't turn people's lives around overnight, it takes time, and if the person themselves refuses to change there is literally nothing you can do. You don't want to remove kids from a toxic household or change their environment for the better they'll just stay in the cesspit of rot.
 

Why Indeed!
Are the folks at the ABC so naive to think that someone would not notice that they put a cross superimposed on the gif despite the AEC saying that it will be an invalid vote?
Its lmost as if it was a deliberate ploy to invalidate some of the no votes.
Mick
 
It is now crystal clear that reconciliation is not the goal. It is about
power, division and an ipso facto apartheid.

Go as far as to say that if this is passed and the subsequent "treaty", it will mean the end of Australia as we know it an inevitable economic slide.

 

If you go into any of the Northern Australian towns people ( that was from law enforcement through to Aboriginals themselves) will tell you things are getting worse that was also my own observations.

Change / improvement must come from within to do that you need to have input into policy and where the money goes.

Right now that's all an unknown the Productivity Commission recently shone a light into that window.

The Voice will be transparent, advice available and published unlike now.

If it turns out as you say it will be obvious and Government will be forced to act, the only thing that we have now is the Gap Report.
 
cashless welfare card

This is worth a read, poor data collection means its measured success or lack of is hard to gauge looks like a dogs breakfast.

Maybe if they had some input from Aboriginals it may have had a bigger impact....

Note this bit

'Trials in Kununurra and Wyndham began in April 2016.[47] Around 1,200 people are part of the trial in Kununurra and Wyndham.[50] WA Police have released statistics saying that violence and intimidating behaviour has increased in the area since the card's introduction."

"An independent review of the implementation and performance of the Cashless Welfare Card trial was performed by the Australian National Audit Office which resulted in a number of flaws in the trial being identified, and a series of recommendations made including that a cost-benefit analysis be conducted, and that the Department of Social Service should fully utilise all available data to measure performance, instead of the limited data set used in the evaluation commissioned by the department.[23] It was widely reported that there were fundamental flaws in the Cashless Welfare Card evaluation and justification for continued operation, but the Minister for Social Services, Dan Tehan indicated that the trials would continue, stating that "The cashless debit card is making a real difference in the communities where it operates".[24]

This response is in stark contrast with one of the four community leaders who supported the Cashless Welfare Card being trialled in his area withdrawing support due to feeling "used" to drum up support and the failure to provide adequate support services as was promised.[25] Commentary stating that the Cashless Welfare Card is a success also neglects to mention an actual increase in crime when year to year averages are considered.[25] There is also very little mention of negative outcomes such as an increase in suicides which has been directly linked to the implementation of the Cashless Welfare Card trial, which was raised in the 2017 inquiry.[26] A Parliamentary Joint Committee on Human Rights report from 2017 has found that the CDC negatively impacts rights to social security, privacy, family, equality and non-discrimination, furthermore finding that there has been no compelling rationale for the scale of the CDC.[27]"
 
Responses to Key Evaluation Questions

What have been the effects of the CDCT (cashless debit card trial) on program participants, their families and the broader community?

Have there been reductions in the consumption of alcohol, illegal drug use, or gambling?

Wave 1 quantitative survey data and qualitative research findings indicated that the first 6 months of the CDCT was associated with a reduction in all three target behaviours among CDCT participants – alcohol consumption, illegal drug use and gambling. Wave 2 data from these sources (collected around 9 months after Wave 1) indicated that these reductions had been sustained and broadened, with a larger proportion of CDCT participants reporting reduced levels of each behaviour (compared to before being on the Trial). In addition, CDCT participant survey results indicated that the reductions in alcohol consumption and gambling were deepened among CDCT participants, with the average reported frequency of alcohol consumption and gambling declining significantly between Wave 1 and Wave 2. On average across the two Trial sites: 1 As at 26 May 2017, n=6 Trial participants were recorded as having been voluntary CDCT participants .

 

Watch for the favours to fly.

Top ASX companies publicly back yes campaign in Voice referendum​

  1. Qantas
  2. BHP
  3. Rio Tinto
  4. Woodside Energy
  5. NAB
  6. ANZ
  7. Commonwealth Bank
  8. Westpac
  9. Woolworths
  10. Coles
  11. Wesfarmers
  12. Telstra
  13. Xero
  14. Transurban Group
  15. Lendlease
STAYING NEUTRAL (Top 20 companies)
1. Aristocrat Leisure
2. CSL
3. Fortescue Metals
4. Goodman Group
5. Macquarie Group
6. Santos
7. WiseTech Global

According to Murdoc!

 
Own shares in 5 - used to be 10 (Neutral 2 used to be 3)
Direct customer of 11 indirect 16,i guess (Neutral only 2 that I know of.)
 
Itt would be interesting to know how many of these companies make a positive contribution to improving the lot of aborigines, like specialised employment or training programs, or are they just paying lip service in order to virtue signal ?
 
Itt would be interesting to know how many of these companies make a positive contribution to improving the lot of aborigines, like specialised employment or training programs, or are they just paying lip service in order to virtue signal ?

"Like sheep, the ALP government herded the large corporates to support its Yes vote in the looming referendum believing this was the path to certain victory, only to see the deep distrust of large corporates contributing to Australians responding by swinging to the No vote."

 
Itt would be interesting to know how many of these companies make a positive contribution to improving the lot of aborigines, like specialised employment or training programs, or are they just paying lip service in order to virtue signal ?
I think they make positive profits from them sadly, like the supermarket chains that sell them alcohol, it's sold directly out of the supermarkets in NT.
 
In 2019, the GG, peter Cosgrove, signed an executive order to establish the National Indegenous Australians gency.
The legislative instument can be read at the offical government website Here.
As can be seen from the screen shot, section (e) part ii
to provide advice to the Prime Minister and the Minister for Indigenous Australians on whole-of-government priorities for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people;
So why do we need a voice, when we already have this body, which already has 1300 plus employees, although only 300 identify as First nations people, and a budget of 3 billion.says
 
Excellent Mick what advice have they provided and what advice has the government acted on?
 
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