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“Australians don’t need to be welcomed to their own country”.​

Exactly!

Jacinta Price says ‘Australians don’t need to be welcomed to their own country’

Opposition Indigenous Australians spokeswoman, Jacinta Price, has called for an end to welcome to country acknowledgments before every sporting event and public gathering because the practice is “wrong” and dividing the nation.

The attack comes after former prime minister Tony Abbott last week conceded he was “getting a little bit sick” of welcome to country, arguing the nation “belongs to all of us, not just to some of us.”

Senator Price, a Warlpiri-Celtic woman who grew up in Alice Springs and the leading campaign spokeswoman against Anthony Albanese’s constitutionally enshrined voice to parliament, said “Australians don’t need to be welcomed to their own country”.

“There is no problem with acknowledging our history, but rolling out these performances before every sporting event or public gathering is definitely divisive,” Senator Price told The Australian.

“It’s not welcoming, it’s telling non-Indigenous Australians ‘this isn’t your country’ and that’s wrong. We are all Australians and we share this great land.”

Peter Dutton last week said he thought that welcome to country was a “respectful way to acknowledge the Indigenous heritage of our country” but argued the practice was overdone and often used as an exercise in virtue signalling.

“I do get the point that when you go to a function and there’s an MC who I think appropriately can do recognition, you then get the next five or 10 speakers who each do their own acknowledgment to country, and frankly, I think it detracts from the significance of the statement that’s being made,” he told 2GB. “I think there are a lot of corporates that just do it because they think it’s what people want to hear.”

An acknowledgment of country is made every sitting day alongside the Lord’s Prayer in both the Senate and House of Representatives – a practice that was introduced in 2010.

A number of Coalition MPs on Sunday supported the substance of Senator Price’s comments, with Nationals Leader David Littleproud saying that welcome to country had “just gone over the top.”

“I think unfortunately what’s happened – it’s not just sporting events – you can go to a meeting and everyone makes an acknowledgment,” Mr Littleproud said. “I think it’s gone overboard. It’s gone too far. Is it necessary? I think it’s a reasonable question to ask.”

MP Keith Pitt said the welcome to country was supposed to be “culturally significant.”

“If that’s the case they should be treated as such, not thrown around on T-shirts, email signatures, video conferences and aircraft arrivals,” he said. “I think sensible management would be widely welcomed.”

South Australian Liberal senator Alex Antic said the idea a “welcome” should be “constantly extended for Australians to be in their own country is tiresome and divisive”.

“Endless acknowledgments of country performed by white middle class professionals before meetings do little more than brick in their credentials in front of an imaginary court of wokeness approval,” he said.

“These clashes against Western values only subside when courage culture triumphs over cancel culture and the use of these gestures ceases.”

LNP senator Gerard Rennick said the welcome to country should be reserved for special occasions, arguing it was now an example of “virtue signalling that’s gone mad”.

“It’s overkill,” he said. “You feel like they are shoving it down your throat.”

In a piece for The Australian last November, Senator Price said welcome to country had become “a standard ritual practice before events, meetings and social gatherings” but argued she had received “more than my fill of being symbolically recognised”.

“It would be far more dignifying if we were recognised and respected as individuals in our own right who are not simply defined by our racial heritage but by the content of our character,” she said.

When he was prime minister, Scott Morrison adopted the practice of giving Australia’s veterans equal billing with Indigenous elders “past, present and emerging” when speaking at formal events and ceremonies.

JOE KELLY NATIONAL AFFAIRS EDITOR
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SirRumpole said:
Well I find it annoying when the ABC broadcasts say "coming to you from <some aboriginal tribe> country" without explaing in English where that is.

Its just a piece of PC tripe that the woke like saying.
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That's why I went from getting about 70% of my news and current affairs from the ABC down to 10%
 
“I, and many Australians, are in disbelief that the PM seems to be able to speak in great detail about the No campaign, but unable to speak to any of the detail in his divisive voice proposal.”​

Prime Minister accuses No campaign of spreading AI misinformation

Anthony Albanese has accused the No campaign of spreading AI-generated misinformation ahead of the voice referendum, escalating his attack on media commentators opposed to his proposed constitutional change, including Peta Credlin and Andrew Bolt.

On WSFM radio with Amanda Keller and Brendan Jones, the Prime Minister said it was “pretty scary frankly, some of the No campaign and stuff that’s going into people’s Facebook posts which is designed to spread misinformation”.

“Some of it is AI-generated, some of it generated, of course, by people like the commentators that you have said.”

The commentators mentioned by Jones included Sky News hosts Credlin and Bolt, with Mr Albanese arguing on Monday that “some of the media outlets are pretty determined to promote the No campaign.”

His claim AI technology was being used to attack the voice was rejected by the No campaign, spokeswoman Jacinta Price accusing the government of a “campaign of misinformation, spin, and outright lies”.

“This time using the soft touch media of FM radio to slander the No campaign and media commentators with their divisive untruths around the use of AI,” Senator Price said. “I, and many Australians, are in disbelief that the PM seems to be able to speak in great detail about the No campaign, but unable to speak to any of the detail in his divisive voice proposal.”

It is the second time the No campaign has been forced to reject accusations it is using AI technology after former NAIDOC co-chair and journalist John Paul Janke made the claim on the ABC’s Insiders program on August 6.

Janke said the No campaign had used AI to make it appear “like it is an Indigenous person supporting the No campaign”.

The video Janke was referring to was made by a group called Constitutional Equality, run by cryptocurrency trader Phillip Mobbs, which has no connection with the No campaign.

Mr Mobbs told the ABC last week he had never had any contact with No campaign spokespeople Warren Mundine or Senator Price.

Bolt told The Australian he challenged Mr Albanese to “identify the misinformation he claims I’ve spread”.

“Many of my pieces have been written to correct his misinformation, including fake claims that the voice would only give advice on matters directly affecting Aboriginals and the voice wouldn’t ask the High Court to overrule the government,” Bolt said. “That is the misinformation that I think is extremely dangerous and deceitful.”

Mr Albanese singled out Credlin for particular criticism after the former chief-of-staff to Tony Abbott said the Uluru Statement from the Heart was a longer document than the 439-word statement made in 2017.

Credlin said the longer document was an “angry manifesto of grievance, separatism, division and compensation”.

Speaking on ABC radio on Monday, Mr Albanese said: “Peta Credlin is a smart person. She must know that that’s not true.

“She is saying things that she knows is not true. As is Peter Dutton … no serious person thinks that that’s the case.”

Credlin told The Australian: “The people wheeled out last week to bolster the PM’s claim that it’s just a … one-page poster are all the same people who for six years since Uluru have implored us to read what they regard as the full document of many pages in length.

“It just doesn’t stack up, that suddenly what’s been true for years is not true now … As to the slights and the slurs, quite honestly that just says to me we are getting closer and closer to the truth.”

While Mr Albanese told the ABC The Australian had provided “substantial coverage of the Yes campaign as well as the No campaign”, he has ramped up criticism of journalists who have covered the No campaign.

Speaking in parliament earlier this month, he took aim at both The Daily Telegraph’s national affairs editor James Morrow and 2GB radio host Ray Hadley.

JOE KELLY NATIONAL AFFAIRS EDITOR
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JohnDe said:
“I, and many Australians, are in disbelief that the PM seems to be able to speak in great detail about the No campaign, but unable to speak to any of the detail in his divisive voice proposal.”​
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Someone just needs to slap Albo in the head with a thong, what is it that he doesn't understand about democracy?
 
Well we did say this could be Albo's undoing, his popularity is crashing and when that happens it is hard to recover. Silly Billy will be looking to kitchen knife draw, is my guess, before the next election.
If the coalition gets a leader, the next election could actually turn into a contest, who would have thought that.
What a mess, pizz poor planning and pizz poor presentation, makes for pizz poor poll results.
The big loser will be Albo which is a shame, but if the coalition can peg back support with Dutton at the head, the Labor legendary infighting will start IMO.

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Albanese pays price as Voice support slips again

Voters have cut their support for Prime Minister Anthony Albanese after a fierce political dispute over the Indigenous Voice, slashing his net performance rating from 16 to just 2 percentage points over the past month.
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Voters have cut their support for Prime Minister Anthony Albanese after a fierce political dispute over the Indigenous Voice, slashing his net performance rating from 16 to just 2 percentage points over the past month and weakening trust in the government’s message.

The powerful shift has narrowed the gap between Labor and the Coalition to only 4 percentage points on the primary vote, down from 9 points last month, at a crucial point in the contest for a Yes or No vote at the referendum likely in October.

The exclusive findings from the Resolve Political Monitor show that support for the Voice has slipped from 48 to 46 per cent on the Yes or No question that will decide the referendum, continuing a decline from 63 per cent one year ago.
The results indicate the Voice has majority support in Victoria and Tasmania but is opposed in NSW, Queensland, Western Australia and South Australia, suggesting it would be defeated at the referendum because it would not gain a national majority as well as approval in a majority of states.

Labor retains a winning lead, with a primary vote that would increase its majority in parliament, but the results are its weakest in the Resolve surveys since last year’s election.
The latest survey, conducted for this masthead by research company Resolve Strategic, shows core support for Labor has fallen from 39 to 37 per cent over the past month, while the Coalition has lifted its primary vote from 30 to 33 per cent. The Greens have held their primary vote at 11 per cent while independent MPs have increased their support from 9 to 10 per cent nationwide.
 
sptrawler said:
Well we did say this could be Albo's undoing, his popularity is crashing and when that happens it is hard to recover. Silly Billy will be looking to kitchen knife draw, is my guess, before the next election.
If the coalition gets a leader, the next election could actually turn into a contest, who would have thought that.
What a mess, pizz poor planning and pizz poor presentation, makes for pizz poor poll results.
The big loser will be Albo which is a shame, but if the coalition can peg back support with Dutton at the head, the Labor legendary infighting will start IMO.

www.smh.com.au

Albanese pays price as Voice support slips again

Voters have cut their support for Prime Minister Anthony Albanese after a fierce political dispute over the Indigenous Voice, slashing his net performance rating from 16 to just 2 percentage points over the past month.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au
Voters have cut their support for Prime Minister Anthony Albanese after a fierce political dispute over the Indigenous Voice, slashing his net performance rating from 16 to just 2 percentage points over the past month and weakening trust in the government’s message.

The powerful shift has narrowed the gap between Labor and the Coalition to only 4 percentage points on the primary vote, down from 9 points last month, at a crucial point in the contest for a Yes or No vote at the referendum likely in October.

The exclusive findings from the Resolve Political Monitor show that support for the Voice has slipped from 48 to 46 per cent on the Yes or No question that will decide the referendum, continuing a decline from 63 per cent one year ago.
The results indicate the Voice has majority support in Victoria and Tasmania but is opposed in NSW, Queensland, Western Australia and South Australia, suggesting it would be defeated at the referendum because it would not gain a national majority as well as approval in a majority of states.

Labor retains a winning lead, with a primary vote that would increase its majority in parliament, but the results are its weakest in the Resolve surveys since last year’s election.
The latest survey, conducted for this masthead by research company Resolve Strategic, shows core support for Labor has fallen from 39 to 37 per cent over the past month, while the Coalition has lifted its primary vote from 30 to 33 per cent. The Greens have held their primary vote at 11 per cent while independent MPs have increased their support from 9 to 10 per cent nationwide.
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I said this at the beginning of this thread when I started to post, the only place he will be popular will be in Vic with all the revengeful Milillinials populace.


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sptrawler said:
Well we did say this could be Albo's undoing, his popularity is crashing and when that happens it is hard to recover. Silly Billy will be looking to kitchen knife draw, is my guess, before the next election.
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Billy has had his run, he is unelectable.

Albo needs to worry about Chalmers, Butler and Clare, the 'young' Turks, but I don't really think his position is in doubt at the moment.

If the Voice goes down he can blame it on the people but he has to be careful to avoid "the deplorables" tactic that killed Hilary Clinton's run on the Presidency.

He has to tread a narrow path if he wants to retain the confidence of the majority.
 
SirRumpole said:
Billy has had his run, he is unelectable.

Albo needs to worry about Chalmers, Butler and Clare, the 'young' Turks, but I don't really think his position is in doubt at the moment.

If the Voice goes down he can blame it on the people but he has to be careful to avoid "the deplorables" tactic that killed Hilary Clinton's run on the Presidency.

He has to tread a narrow path if he wants to retain the confidence of the majority.
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Over here in the West, McStalin had the support of the unthinking plebeians irrespective of their tribal allegiances. I don't see Albo having that.

Those people in my circle who had at least a grudging respect for Mark, can't stand Albo's guts.

Small sample size and for what it's worth.
 
SirRumpole said:
Billy has had his run, he is unelectable.

Albo needs to worry about Chalmers, Butler and Clare, the 'young' Turks, but I don't really think his position is in doubt at the moment.

If the Voice goes down he can blame it on the people but he has to be careful to avoid "the deplorables" tactic that killed Hilary Clinton's run on the Presidency.

He has to tread a narrow path if he wants to retain the confidence of the majority.
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Spot on.
 
wayneL said:
Over here in the West, McStalin had the support of the unthinking plebeians irrespective of their tribal allegiances. I don't see Albo having that.

Those people in my circle who had at least a grudging respect for Mark, can't stand Albo's guts.

Small sample size and for what it's worth.
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Wayne i wonder if PM Albo;s minders have an ear to the ground Just possibly then thy might get a clearer picture of what the peasants really think, rather than the top end of town
 
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"Cape York leader Noel Pearson says the proposed Voice to Parliament will give Indigenous people responsibility for their own problems and solutions.​
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"A key architect of the Voice and founder of Cape York Institute, Mr Pearson said if the Voice referendum was successful, First Nations people would become as responsible as government for addressing disadvantage."​


I would like to know - With a bank account earning interest on $1.38B and "managing" the infrastructure and housing money from State and Federal governments, the National Indigenous Australians Agency (NIAA) should have the 'responsibility and solutions'. What is the issue?

The National Indigenous Australians Agency (NIAA) vision is to ensure Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are heard, recognised and empowered.​
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We recognise each First Nations community is unique. We work in partnership with community to make sure policies, programs and services meet their unique needs.​
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We work to support the Minister for Indigenous Australians.​
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The NIAA has focused on working in partnership and place to deliver on programs under the Indigenous Advancement Strategy (IAS). First and foremost, we work with First Nations peoples to share decision-making to achieve better outcomes.​


Cape York leader Noel Pearson says the proposed Voice to Parliament will give Indigenous people responsibility for their own problems and solutions.

A key architect of the Voice and founder of Cape York Institute, Mr Pearson said if the Voice referendum was successful, First Nations people would become as responsible as government for addressing disadvantage.

“More than two decades ago, I argued the need to restore the importance of responsibility in our understanding about problems and in our understanding of the solutions,” he said. “By having a voice, we will be responsible for closing the gap, we will be as responsible as the government.

“By all means blame us, but give us a say in the decisions that are made about us before you do.”

Speaking at the Queensland University of Technology’s Meanjin Oration event on Monday night, after attending the launch of the Qantas “Yes” campaign earlier in the day, Mr Pearson said there was a “once in a nation’s lifetime opportunity within our grasp”.

“We will bequeath to our children a better Australia, our children will grow up in a way that we never knew,” he said. “They will grow up not fearing Indigenous people, prejudice over time will diminish.

“Indigenous and non-Indigenous children will grow up knowing who they are. Australians with a sense of belonging together.”

With non-Indigenous people making up 97 per cent of the population, Mr Pearson urged non-Indigenous people in the audience to talk to family and friends about the referendum.

“This is not a federal election campaign between the Liberal and Labor. If you’re a Liberal voter, there’s no reason why you can’t say Yes to Australia, if you are a Labor voter, the same applies.

“This is not about Anthony Albanese and Peter Dutton – this is about whether we are going to achieve a new Australia.”

An exclusive Newspoll conducted for The Australian this month showed support for a constitutionally enshrined Indigenous Voice has fallen below 50 per cent in every state.

The poll suggests the Yes vote nationally was at 43 per cent and the No vote at 46 per cent, when averaged over surveys between May and July this year.

LYDIA LYNCH QUEENSLAND POLITICAL REPORTER

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JohnDe said:
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"Cape York leader Noel Pearson says the proposed Voice to Parliament will give Indigenous people responsibility for their own problems and solutions.​
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"A key architect of the Voice and founder of Cape York Institute, Mr Pearson said if the Voice referendum was successful, First Nations people would become as responsible as government for addressing disadvantage."​


I would like to know - With a bank account earning interest on $1.38B and "managing" the infrastructure and housing money from State and Federal governments, the National Indigenous Australians Agency (NIAA) should have the 'responsibility and solutions'. What is the issue?

The National Indigenous Australians Agency (NIAA) vision is to ensure Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are heard, recognised and empowered.​
​
We recognise each First Nations community is unique. We work in partnership with community to make sure policies, programs and services meet their unique needs.​
​
We work to support the Minister for Indigenous Australians.​
​
The NIAA has focused on working in partnership and place to deliver on programs under the Indigenous Advancement Strategy (IAS). First and foremost, we work with First Nations peoples to share decision-making to achieve better outcomes.​
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And how much more of our tax payer dollars will be forwarded into the pot. Looks to me as if they want a separate government for their lot. While we just meekly keep on paying and are suppossed to have a sorrowful feeling towards them for the past.
Bah I say. I country and ONE and only ONE flag.
 
farmerge said:
And how much more of our tax payer dollars will be forwarded into the pot. Looks to me as if they want a separate government for their lot. While we just meekly keep on paying and are suppossed to have a sorrowful feeling towards them for the past.
Bah I say. I country and ONE and only ONE flag.
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And one Constitution for everyone.
 

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