The symbol of the Halal Certification Authority Australia

[Bintang]

Sermon on the mount Matthew 5 17: 20,

Jesus himself says the following about the laws of the Old Testament.

really?

You actually read the Bible? Because I can think of a few examples of old covenants being made obsolete or spiritualised. One of them is Hebrews 8:13

VC and Tisme, would you guys care to carry on your bible text discussion elsewhere and let the rest of us return to subjects more relevant to the topic of this thread, such as bacon.

 

[luutzu]

'Vegemite products are funding terrorism'
National Party MP claims halal-certified groceries fund terror and local campaigns for Sharia law in Australia.

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/george-christensen-uses-vegemite-to-suggest-halal-products-are-fund

The Age story reports that: "Two weeks ago, South Australian dairy producer Fleurieu Milk and Yoghurt Company was forced drop its halal certification after receiving threats on social media.
As a consequence, it's believed the company lost a $50,000 contact with Emirates."

Surely what the company can do is produce separate halal-certified items for export. And within Australia surely the solution is also to produce two sets of labelling. One with halal-certificates for the 2% of the population that want it and another without halal certification for the other 98% of the population. The halal-certified products will be more expensive. Simple 'user-pays' principle. Why should 98% of the population subsidise the cost of halal-certification for only 2% of the population.

They would just make the same batch, different bottling. Both being Halal certified, just not labeled as such.

 

[luutzu]

Sermon on the mount Matthew 5 17: 20,

Jesus himself says the following about the laws of the Old Testament.

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven"

Jesus here is stating that Jewish law will not be changed until heaven and earth disappear,

Trick question: Is Jesus Christ Jewish or Christian?

 

[SirRumpole]

Trick question: Is Jesus Christ Jewish or Christian?

Trick answer: both

 

[Bintang]

They would just make the same batch, different bottling. Both being Halal certified, just not labeled as such.

Yes, that's exactly the point. The difference being that those people who want a halal certificate on the packaging will pay for it and those who don't want or need such a certificate can buy the product for less. Like I said - 'user-pays-principle'. That way their terrorist activities and Sharia law campaigns can be self-funded.

 

[Julia]

'Vegemite products are funding terrorism'
National Party MP claims halal-certified groceries fund terror and local campaigns for Sharia law in Australia.

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/george-christensen-uses-vegemite-to-suggest-halal-products-are-fund

The Age story reports that: "Two weeks ago, South Australian dairy producer Fleurieu Milk and Yoghurt Company was forced drop its halal certification after receiving threats on social media.
As a consequence, it's believed the company lost a $50,000 contact with Emirates."

The manager of Fleurieau explained his position very clearly. His conclusion was that the small amount of money brought in by the contract with Etihad (or some ME airline) did not warrant the grief he was receiving via social media accusing him of supporting Muslim terrorism. So he dropped the Halal certification.

7.30's report about this was fascinating. Rumpole, if you've not seen it, then you'll be pleased to see how widely your views are replicated across the population.
Obviously something many people feel extremely strongly about.
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s4133082.htm

 

[Bintang]

The manager of Fleurieau explained his position very clearly. His conclusion was that the small amount of money brought in by the contract with Etihad (or some ME airline) did not warrant the grief he was receiving via social media accusing him of supporting Muslim terrorism. So he dropped the Halal certification.

7.30's report about this was fascinating. Rumpole, if you've not seen it, then you'll be pleased to see how widely your views are replicated across the population.
Obviously something many people feel extremely strongly about.
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s4133082.htm

I think it's fantastic that there are so many people campaigning about this issue. It's about time somebody started standing up to the creeping islamisation of Australia. As for the Byron Bay Cookie Company defying the protests to maintain their halal certification I think they are just dumb. Of course they can maintain their oversees contracts by certifying the products that they export. But that doesn't mean they have to certify the products that they sell to Australians who don't need the certification and don't want to pay for it.

 

[luutzu]

The manager of Fleurieau explained his position very clearly. His conclusion was that the small amount of money brought in by the contract with Etihad (or some ME airline) did not warrant the grief he was receiving via social media accusing him of supporting Muslim terrorism. So he dropped the Halal certification.

7.30's report about this was fascinating. Rumpole, if you've not seen it, then you'll be pleased to see how widely your views are replicated across the population.
Obviously something many people feel extremely strongly about.
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s4133082.htm

Ring Ring... Byron Halal-certified Bakery, we employed 65 Aussies and sell all over the world, how may I hep you.

True Blue Non-terrorist Aussie: Oi! you f and f and f, did you know that you f n f funding terrorists with your certification? Do you know the kind of nasty s they do? They're intolerant sob who will use my money to buy bullets to then come over and terrorise you and me, will not allow us to do what we want, will threaten and abuse us if we do s they don't like... so you bloody better stop this, or else! g dam terrorist lover!


Nothing says love of freedom better than bullying and terrorising others into doing what you want.

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35 000 from population of 24 million [?] isn't that large. Statistically, I could find 35,000 Australians that share something on practically anything you can imagine - from Elvis still being alive to the Loch Ness Monster.


Let see, a small business fork out $1,000 for an inspection and a certificate each year; Got a $50,000 contract from one airline... one that might lead to further business with the same or another from a Muslim country... That business got to go because.... it's the same yogurt he's making! Just added a logo so he can expand sales and pay a bit more taxes.

 

[luutzu]

I think it's fantastic that there are so many people campaigning about this issue. It's about time somebody started standing up to the creeping islamisation of Australia. As for the Byron Bay Cookie Company defying the protests to maintain their halal certification I think they are just dumb. Of course they can maintain their oversees contracts by certifying the products that they export. But that doesn't mean they have to certify the products that they sell to Australians who don't need the certification and don't want to pay for it.

mate, if they just serve up the same thing but put different labels, if the infidels find out they will go nuts and really get upset that they're being served Islam but not being told about it.

So the company must set up a second production line, segregate the flour, the egg, the sugar, the oven etc.
hahah... you can't make this stuff up.

 

[luutzu]

Trick answer: both

Almost.

He's half Jewish (the other half's God) and all Christian.

Though you can argue that he's both Jewish, Christian and Muslim because all those three worship His father.

 

[Bintang]

mate, if they just serve up the same thing but put different labels, if the infidels find out they will go nuts and really get upset that they're being served Islam but not being told about it.

So the company must set up a second production line, segregate the flour, the egg, the sugar, the oven etc.
hahah... you can't make this stuff up.

No. In most cases that is totally unnecessary. Many of these products don't even need the halal certification.
Besides, if halal certification can be got rid of in Sri Langka why not in Australia.

"Islamic clerics announced the withdrawal of a halal labelling system for food in Sri Lanka on Monday "in the interests of peace" after protests from Buddhist groups."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-11/an-halal-labelling-withdrawn-from-sri-lanka/4566242

Sri Lanka's main body of Islamic clergy, said the halal certificate issued by them would be used only for products that are exported to Islamic countries.

Well done Buddhist Groups

 

[sptrawler]

Why is it, Muslims and Jews, don't eat pork?

Do you think the pigs will find it disciminatory?

I mean really, if you can eat a chook or cow, how do you think it makes the pig feel?

Well I'll tell you, the poor thing feels like second class meat, bloody outrageous?

 

[luutzu]

Why is it, Muslims and Jews, don't eat pork?

Do you think the pigs will find it disciminatory?

I mean really, if you can eat a chook or cow, how do you think it makes the pig feel?

Well I'll tell you, the poor thing feels like second class meat, bloody outrageous?

Yea, pigs will find it discriminatory, but they can live with it.

 

[luutzu]

No. In most cases that is totally unnecessary. Many of these products don't even need the halal certification.
Besides, if halal certification can be got rid of in Sri Langka why not in Australia.

"Islamic clerics announced the withdrawal of a halal labelling system for food in Sri Lanka on Monday "in the interests of peace" after protests from Buddhist groups."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-11/an-halal-labelling-withdrawn-from-sri-lanka/4566242

Sri Lanka's main body of Islamic clergy, said the halal certificate issued by them would be used only for products that are exported to Islamic countries.

Well done Buddhist Groups

Muslims don't ask for a Halal logo, they don't ask Australian (the non-Muslim kind) to Halal their product either... just that Muslims like their food Halal, a stamp of approval in the form of a logo from an Authority they trusted help them make their decision faster and buy the product.

If businesses want that market, want to make money out of Muslims, easiest way is to have it certified... else just write it on a packaging and hope Muslims would trust it.

 

[Bintang]

Muslims don't ask for a Halal logo, they don't ask Australian (the non-Muslim kind) to Halal their product either... just that Muslims like their food Halal, a stamp of approval in the form of a logo from an Authority they trusted help them make their decision faster and buy the product.

If businesses want that market, want to make money out of Muslims, easiest way is to have it certified... else just write it on a packaging and hope Muslims would trust it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3gYq2DQG1zI

http://www.boycotthalal.com

 

[Value Collector]

VC and Tisme, would you guys care to carry on your bible text discussion elsewhere and let the rest of us return to subjects more relevant to the topic of this thread, such as bacon.

The context of our discussion relates to the origins and acceptance of halal,

Trick question: Is Jesus Christ Jewish or Christian?

He is a mythical / fictitious character from part two of a three part holy book series. His character may or may not have been based loosely on an actual Jewish rabbi getting around the Middle East however, but the magical parts of the stories are certainly made up.

Almost.

He's half Jewish (the other half's God) and all Christian.

Though you can argue that he's both Jewish, Christian and Muslim because all those three worship His father.

Christian is a relatively new term, it wasn't really used until the the second half of last century, for political reasons in the USA.

 

[Value Collector]

Why is it, Muslims and Jews, don't eat pork?

Do you think the pigs will find it disciminatory?

I mean really, if you can eat a chook or cow, how do you think it makes the pig feel?

Well I'll tell you, the poor thing feels like second class meat, bloody outrageous?

It kind of makes sense a bit, pigs can catch a lot of the same diseases as humans, and in places where sanitation is poor, and pigs muck about in human waste, it poses health risks, and would be unclean.

 

[Bintang]

The context of our discussion relates to the origins and acceptance of halal,

OK. Then go start a new thread titled, "The origins and acceptance of halal"

The title of this thread is, The symbol of the Halal Certification Authority Australia.

 

[Bintang]

It kind of makes sense a bit, pigs can catch a lot of the same diseases as humans, and in places where sanitation is poor, and pigs muck about in human waste, it poses health risks, and would be unclean.

And does this happen in Australia? Do Australian pig farms have poor sanitation and do their pigs muck about in human waste?

We better stop eating chickens too. They can get nasty diseases like bird flu and the chickens muck about in their own waste.

 

[luutzu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3gYq2DQG1zI

http://www.boycotthalal.com

See my kind of Aussie. My kind of people actually - informed, honest, open, swear like a sailor... awesome.

Check out his review of TMNT, it's deep.