The state of the economy at the street level

[SirRumpole]

Well, there are a lot worse things they could be asked to endure for the greater good.

Some people get conscripted to go and fight and end up losing arms or legs, so complaining about some one some where maybe having to move a few kilometers from where they live now, to ensure the rest of society has benefits for decades is a bit lame.



Criminals? It’s just as likely to be an imported surgeon, dentist or engineer.

With all your money VC you could afford to buy a few apartment blocks and rent them out to refugees for the greater good of humanity.

 

[Value Collector]

Ask yourself why Aussie diggers were conscripted to fight and you'll see the flaw in your argument.

It sure as hell wasn't for the greater good of Cuban immigrants

Why were Aussie diggers conscripted to fight?

If you were honest with yourself you would probably admit it was for all the things I oppose, eg nationalism, racism, religionism, countries trying to lock up resources etc.

If nations of the past had opinions similar to mine, the world wars wouldn’t have happened.

 

[Value Collector]

With all your money VC you could afford to buy a few apartment blocks and rent them out to refugees for the greater good of humanity.

As I said, I plan to give away 100% of my money to charity, for now I think it’s better for me to keep compounding it.

But, I do invest back into housing for who ever wants to rent it, and unlike most landlords I just spent $16,000 putting solar panels on my properties for my tenants.

 

[PZ99]

Why were Aussie diggers conscripted to fight?

If you were honest with yourself you would probably admit it was for all the things I oppose, eg nationalism, racism, religionism, countries trying to lock up resources etc.

If nations of the past had opinions similar to mine, the world wars wouldn’t have happened.

So not for the greater good then. Thankyou for discrediting your theory when you said...

"there are a lot worse things they could be asked to endure for the greater good."

As SR said a lot of people say stuff until it personally affects them

 

[Value Collector]

So not for the greater good then. Thankyou for discrediting your theory when you said...

"there are a lot worse things they could be asked to endure for the greater good."

As SR said a lot of people say stuff until it personally affects them

Re-read my comment.

We were talking about people being asked to move so a highway could be expanded for the greater good.

My comment was simply pointing out that in the grand scheme of things that people are sometimes asked to do for what is seen at the time as “the greater good”, moving a few kilometers south is not a big deal.

I am not trying to justify world wars, as I said the causes of world wars could be avoided if people thought the way I do.

 

[PZ99]

Moving a few k's south may not be a big deal for you but it's a big deal for others. Justifying it because it was done in the past for the sake of war doesn't mean it's for the greater good.

Unless you're pretending your greater good is greater than everyone else's greater good

 

[againsthegrain]

Re-read my comment.

We were talking about people being asked to move so a highway could be expanded for the greater good.

My comment was simply pointing out that in the grand scheme of things that people are sometimes asked to do for what is seen at the time as “the greater good”, moving a few kilometers south is not a big deal.

I am not trying to justify world wars, as I said the causes of world wars could be avoided if people thought the way I do.

I bet every leader who started a war started it because he didn't think the other side "though the way I do"

 

[SirRumpole]

Why were Aussie diggers conscripted to fight?

If you were honest with yourself you would probably admit it was for all the things I oppose, eg nationalism, racism, religionism, countries trying to lock up resources etc.

If nations of the past had opinions similar to mine, the world wars wouldn’t have happened.

We are seeing the effects of globalism in the UK right now.

They are in the biggest mess since WWII because a large amount of the population feel they are being overrun by outsiders.

Like it or not, nations have to maintain control of their borders.

John Howard was right in one thing he said, "we will control who comes here and the circumstances in which they come".

 

[Value Collector]

We are seeing the effects of globalism in the UK right now.

They are in the biggest mess since WWII because a large amount of the population feel they are being overrun by outsiders.

Like it or not, nations have to maintain control of their borders.

John Howard was right in one thing he said, "we will control who comes here and the circumstances in which they come".

I am not saying just have open borders.

Some of the squeaky wheels in the U.K. are just xenophobic and fear change.

 

[Value Collector]

I bet every leader who started a war started it because he didn't think the other side "though the way I do"

Of course, both sides in wars always think they are he good guys, but usually atleast one side is operating using flawed logic.

 

[qldfrog]

https://www.michaelwest.com.au/australia-falls-to-stone-cold-last-in-credit-suisse-wealth-report/

 

[qldfrog]

A tell of 2 Australias
North brisbane
Strathpine shopping center
Elderly population, disabled, low attendance at,closing shops
North lake shopping center
Younger clientele more consumption
At each rate cut, Strathpine remaining purchasers tighten the belt
While in North lakes they enjoy the extra money from the mortgage cuts

 

[Jack Aubrey]

https://www.michaelwest.com.au/australia-falls-to-stone-cold-last-in-credit-suisse-wealth-report/

That is a damning report on Australia's economic management since the GFC effects washed through. It is as if we are reverting to the boom and bust economy of the post-war era. Combine this with low productivity growth, low levels of innovation and an ageing population and it isn't easy to see a way forward. Government seems devoid of ideas beyond spin and distraction (and the Opposition is increasingly likewise). Even the modest hope of stimulus from tax and rate cuts (which I can't say I shared) seems to be evaporating. Mind you, he says optimistically, we are not actually in a recession, just floating around in the doldrums.

 

[sptrawler]

We are seeing the effects of globalism in the UK right now.

They are in the biggest mess since WWII because a large amount of the population feel they are being overrun by outsiders.

Like it or not, nations have to maintain control of their borders.

John Howard was right in one thing he said, "we will control who comes here and the circumstances in which they come".

One of the biggest issues the EU would be having, would be all the refugees will be looking for somewhere to park in Europe, rather than just trying to get to the U.K. IMO

 

[sptrawler]

That is a damning report on Australia's economic management since the GFC effects washed through. It is as if we are reverting to the boom and bust economy of the post-war era. Combine this with low productivity growth, low levels of innovation and an ageing population and it isn't easy to see a way forward. Government seems devoid of ideas beyond spin and distraction (and the Opposition is increasingly likewise). Even the modest hope of stimulus from tax and rate cuts (which I can't say I shared) seems to be evaporating. Mind you, he says optimistically, we are not actually in a recession, just floating around in the doldrums.

This is what frog and others have been saying for ages.
If we can get our population up to 50_60 million, a lot of our budget issues will sort themselves out, there will be plenty of service jobs and there won't be enough money for welfare. Lol

 

[SirRumpole]

That is a damning report on Australia's economic management since the GFC effects washed through. It is as if we are reverting to the boom and bust economy of the post-war era. Combine this with low productivity growth, low levels of innovation and an ageing population and it isn't easy to see a way forward. Government seems devoid of ideas beyond spin and distraction (and the Opposition is increasingly likewise). Even the modest hope of stimulus from tax and rate cuts (which I can't say I shared) seems to be evaporating. Mind you, he says optimistically, we are not actually in a recession, just floating around in the doldrums.

It's not only damning, it's frightening.

Total economic mismanagement by the current government.

At least the other side tried to bring in a resources rent tax. They bungled it as usual but it would have solved a lot of problems.

Looks like its going to be another free ride for the miners for another 3 years at least.

 

[qldfrog]

Some more details
Like that website,serious unchallengeable and not seen on main media
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/10/anz-australia-experiencing-a-claytons-recession/

 

[sptrawler]

Talking to my imediate circle of friends, I would say hold your horses, things aint that bad those that recieved their tax cut are reducing their debt QUICKLY.
So things might look grim, but having a beer with the bloke over the road, we both couldnt get over how fast the kids are getting their debt sorted out.
Trust me I think it is the dark before the sunrise, but I have just knocked off 3/4 of a bottle of red the wife ordered. Lol I dont even like red.
We just have to get these gun traders, to give us the heads up on the hot stocks.

 

[sptrawler]

Also dont forget Im talking WA, not megga dick size Sydney and Melbourne, where if you cant outbid someone it is a reflection of your manhood.

 

[sptrawler]

Another thing that is out of control, is how many bottons and crap a toilet in Yokahama has.
Weird $hit the missus says she wants one, and I cant even work out how the f@$k to flush it. OMG
Time for bed.