The state of the economy at the street level

[jbocker]

I like this bit: The engineers concluded that a "progressive build-up of load on the structure as [the] apartments became occupied" also culminated with the crack at level 10.

Like they do in lifts maybe they should have a warning at the entrance of the building Max No of Persons and Max Weight is XXkg.
With a bit of luck they could make a fortune as a tourist attraction, come see an engineering design stuff up. This has worked EXTREMELY well in Pisa.

 

[PZ99]

Opal would have to be the only tower containing elevators that are afraid of heights

 

[tinhat]

I like this bit: The engineers concluded that a "progressive build-up of load on the structure as [the] apartments became occupied" also culminated with the crack at level 10.

Considering the tower only opened 4 months prior to that - it was unlikely to be fully occupied.
A full house could've really brought down the cards. I daresay the above defects would be widespread in multiple buildings. Once repaired, Opal could be the safest tower in the West.

That's if it doesn't use alucobest cladding. Stand by for the weight restrictions for new tenants

It's pretty freaking obvious to anyone living in NSW that the place is run by a bunch of merchant bankers and dodgy developers with absolutely zero regard for the people, community or the environment. The only problem is that the last time the other side were in government it was no different.

 

[sptrawler]

The end result will be interesting, repair or replace, if the later who will pay?
It could be a real can of worms, especially when they have used incorrectly sized reo bar.

 

[jbocker]

The end result will be interesting, repair or replace, if the later who will pay?
It could be a real can of worms, especially when they have used incorrectly sized reo bar.

Probably no one will 'pay'. It will probably go through years of finger pointing, and a series of spineless govts do nothing more than soap-boxing with more finger pointing, a bundle of blood suckers will parade in courts. The purchasers will eventually give up probably several futile fights and eventually take the loss and some go to ruin. The builder, developer,engineers etc will back out the door pointing at others or if cornered 'go broke' and all involved morph into new companies and move on.

Meanwhile the market will shun built existing apartments, then many will quickly forget about it or trip over themselves for the next glossy development brochure and buy.

 

[PZ99]

Buildings like that have a 10 year warranty. So the onus in on Icon for sure.

Been through that process with my own apartment which is even worse than Opal.

P.S. > Google review... Superb development, offering a chance to grow both your capital base and the size of the property you own. Mine is 2.5mm larger than it was only this morning. LOL

 

[Smurf1976]

It's pretty freaking obvious to anyone living in NSW that the place is run by a bunch of merchant bankers and dodgy developers with absolutely zero regard for the people, community or the environment. The only problem is that the last time the other side were in government it was no different.

I've never lived in NSW so my perception comes via friends who live there, the media and whenever I've visited.

Basically, my observations:

*Growth and development at any cost.

*Major events seem to have a tendency of ending up with a lot of people disappointed.

*The government seems morally conservative.

*Public transport seems to be a chronic problem for reasons I'm not really aware of. It's frequent mainstream news nationally not just in NSW.

*The state government seems incredibly flush with cash to the point of seemingly having no idea what to do with it all.

Just my observations.

 

[moXJO]

They have been madly slamming up apartments before the boom ends.

A lot of envelopes handed around to workcover, unions and other inspectors.
A lot of cement trucks being forced to wait too long and the cement going off but still used.
Short cuts everywhere.
There is s lot of difficulties in such a built up area for everything to go smoothly.
Its not just shoddy tradesmen. It can be a huge list of things.
If the project starts badly then it ends badly.

 

[Smurf1976]

A lot of envelopes handed around to workcover, unions and other inspectors.

Am interpreting that comment correctly to mean corruption involving government employees and/or government itself?

 

[SirRumpole]

Am interpreting that comment correctly to mean corruption involving government employees and/or government itself?

That would not be unknown.

See the Gold Coast council.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03...ate-at-the-centre-of-corruption-probe/9529434

 

[SirRumpole]

Elon Musk's solution to Sydney traffic problems,

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-17/elon-musk-blue-mountains-tunnel/10721798

 

[qldfrog]

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Considering sydney spent 11 millions on an art piece, 1 billion is a fair price even if it fails
This country needs some competitive infrastructure building
I do not know the details..but worth investigating. The battery in SA is a success as far as i know
Ok.now flying out to the opposite over infrastructured China

 

[moXJO]

Am interpreting that comment correctly to mean corruption involving government employees and/or government itself?

I don't need to end up in a cement foundation somewhere.

I will say this though, workers have apparently been taking photos of transactions (that I haven't seen, know about, remember, all just a fairytale).

Certain groups have no problem throwing huge sums at certain people.

NZ is also being bought.
I see you Auckland tribe and government officials. Fking greedy toads.

Its widespread both sides. People are out for what they can get.

 

[Humid]

I don't need to end up in a cement foundation somewhere.

I will say this though, workers have apparently been taking photos of transactions (that I haven't seen, know about, remember, all just a fairytale).

Certain groups have no problem throwing huge sums at certain people.

NZ is also being bought.
I see you Auckland tribe and government officials. Fking greedy toads.

Its widespread both sides. People are out for what they can get.

Concrete my man concrete....

 

[mcgrath111]

They have been madly slamming up apartments before the boom ends.

A lot of envelopes handed around to workcover, unions and other inspectors.
A lot of cement trucks being forced to wait too long and the cement going off but still used.
Short cuts everywhere.
There is s lot of difficulties in such a built up area for everything to go smoothly.
Its not just shoddy tradesmen. It can be a huge list of things.
If the project starts badly then it ends badly.

Not trolling, how can cement ''go off'', genuinely curious.

 

[sptrawler]

Not trolling, how can cement ''go off'', genuinely curious.

They have all sorts in it, for cold weather, hot weather, distance to travel.

 

[luutzu]

I hope not, but I think a reality check is on the cards, the underlying current I'm feeling is people are nervous and comfort food is doing o.k
I may go to TAFE, to get my plumbing license, it could be useful.

Diapers too.

We'll need both this time.

 

[luutzu]

Not trolling, how can cement ''go off'', genuinely curious.

Wait too long and concrete/cement "dies". Start to cure and goes lumpy so won't bond to reinforcement etc.

 

[luutzu]

It's pretty freaking obvious to anyone living in NSW that the place is run by a bunch of merchant bankers and dodgy developers with absolutely zero regard for the people, community or the environment. The only problem is that the last time the other side were in government it was no different.

There's about 3 or 4 towers going up right next to Opal.

The main core and slabs are done for two of them that I can see.

I'm betting they're going to be properly built this time round.

It's a nice area. Next to the pool, the park, the rivers, rail... About a million a pop for 1 Bedroom.

 

[Smurf1976]

The battery in SA is a success as far as i know

Yes, it does what it's supposed to do there's no question about that and has been supplying power into the grid during the peaks in recent days with the heatwave.

It's a success thus far there's no doubt about that. The only unanswered question is about longevity and what (if any) issues will crop up as it gets old but is still working as such. That's where the big unknowns are at this stage, actual functionality is proven.