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The state of the economy at the street level

i don't know so much on 'extortion ' ( with the traffic controllers ) a former boss ( ex banker manager ) went for that and was explaining some gory fine print entailed , i asked some questions and he snapped up a job in 'event security ' instead ( a sub contractor for the State Government ) what he missed in the pay-packet was well and truly bettered in the super fund ( so much so he swapped into the relevant super fund to consolidate )
 
So based on this, who says RE is expensive,?
Where else in the world can a traffic controller buy the average priced home in a capital city at 5 time his /her/its annual salary?
 
More info showing how tough it is out in the real world -

 
So based on this, who says RE is expensive,?
Where else in the world can a traffic controller buy the average priced home in a capital city at 5 time his /her/its annual salary?

That "$120k a year" line looks impressive doesn't it ? Unfortunately in the real world it doesn't fly.

Traffic Control operators are on call casual workers. They can go any where, anytime any how - or not at all. And as far as I can see the wages are far more modest than the headline figure.

I checked out the Seek website and in particular the reviews. .

 
What is the total tax take from the average wage earner? Including all the levies, etc.

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This is the most egregious thing about our tax system. We have multiple taxes that are taxed upon already (highly) taxed income.

Then, if you run some sort of a business, there is the administrative time and costs involved in complying with the imposition of such taxes.
 
What is the total tax take from the average wage earner? Including all the levies, etc.

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It comes from Pauline Hanson One Nation. That should say a xxxxing lot about it's credibility.

Does anyone else what to dissect this load of poisonous, misleading garbage ? The Fuel Tax figure is easy to prove wrong (although it does hurt. Why not go electric ?)

The tax people pay on income is also easy to check out.

This doesn't mean people aren't hurting bad. The real killers in my view are rents/mortgage costs and insurance
 
and your fuel excise will become a Congestion Tax (or some other name )
 

Which part is incorrect?




 
John the figures you quoted demonstrated the inaccuracies of One Nations story.

Excise and GST makes up 34% of the cost of petrol .
"As of today, at an national average retail price of 197.2 cents per litre, we're paying 49.6 cents per litre in fuel excise and 17.9 cents per litre in GST – so roughly 67.5 cents a litre, or 34 per cent of the average retail price, in federal government taxes,"

So where did the 48% petrol tax come from ?

The tax scales even for a person on say $100k would result in a tax bill of $20,778 - 21c in the dollar not 33c.

Being more realistic most wage earners, the median are earning around $80k a year . The tax rate for that income is$14,788 - 18.5c in the dollar.

Apart from the wild inaccuracies of the figures, the example makes a false comparison between a $100 "earned" (out of a wage of say $1600-2000 a week) and the cost of filling up a tank of petrol. Frankly the pocket pain hurts much more for a part time worker struggling to keep his/hercar running between jobs while making $700-$1000 a week. Probably pays relatively little income tax but is hurting with rent, mortgage and petrol.

 

You must add the GST.

The average income in Australia is $98,000 which puts the average taxpayer into the 32.5% tax bracket.
 
You must add the GST.

The average income in Australia is $98,000 which puts the average taxpayer into the 32.5% tax bracket.

Not sure what you are referring to here. The GST was added in the calculations for excise.
Yes GST affects all taxpayers. In fact it is a more regressive tax that Income Tax which impacts the less well off harder.

Are you suggesting the Government should axe GST and also reduce income tax to lessen the tax burden on people ? Perhaps also axe fuel excise as well ?
 

I am pointing out how much tax the average worker pays.

Are you working 38+ hours per week with no special benefits?
 
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Are you suggesting the Government should axe GST and also reduce income tax to lessen the tax burden on people ? Perhaps also axe fuel excise as well ?
If we're going to get rid of any of them fuel excise should be high up the list of things to go.

As time passes, it becomes more and more a tax on the poor. That's who's largely living in the outer suburbs and getting around in a 20 year old guzzler paying lots of fuel excise. It's just another thing that keeps those already struggling in difficulty.

There's probably a better thread for discussing tax reform however.

Back to the economy at the street level, the hospitality exodus continues:


Two of Adelaide’s landmark CBD pubs are looking for new owners amid a deepening hospitality crisis that has forced a string of venues to close their doors.

At this point I've lost count of how many but there's been plenty of closures that's for sure. OK these are sales but still, the overall trend is pretty clear.
 

Most city pubs are struggling to offer value for money, their expenses for utilities, rent, marketing and wages is too high. On top of that is the increased costs of food and alcohol.

Until recently I would regularly shout my family out for a meal, not anymore because I can’t see the value. Now I cook a feast twice a week and hand out leftovers for lunches, and invest the savings.
 
Gonna do the same.

Our cooking is miles better and healthier than the crap at the pubs.
 
I've got 2 pubs I eat at. Food is good but it's got pretty expensive.

Interestingly I went to MacDonalds after hearing that people stop turning up all together and was surprised that it was actually full of people eating in. Probably 15 years since I've seen that many people eating in. Went to 2 different maccas as well. They must have updated training as it wasn't a soggy mess that you usually get.

Mall on the weekend was packed and people actually spending money.

I'm guessing it might be some tax returns getting spent. It's also holidays in nsw.

Another observation: One of the restaurants was having an electrical issue, explained it in detail and what I wanted done. Actually had about 5 different ones as backup but went with the one with the best reviews (my sparkie mates were busy).

Guy turns up late (then late again after an automated message saying he would be there in 23 mins).I can handle late. He then checks the meter for 20 minutes and is out of there for $288 plus gst. Did nothing that I asked and power issue 10mins after again.
I went "old man ranting" off at them. This isn't the first trade I've had recent problems with either.

I had a fan installed that was an Aussie. Charged $7k which was steep. He messed up the fan order (wrong spec) first time round stuffing our Service. Second time I check as the fan isn't pulling the smoke and he gives me some bs excuse. I go up and check the fan model and it's different from what he quoted. So got my money back, used a licensed Thai and he does it for $1500. Check the work and it's quality, he knows his stuff in-depth.

Our tradies are dumb as hell. They can't fix basic problems and they charge a fortune now. I was the ultimate tradie shill before. But the education of this lot is shocking.
 
Our tradies are dumb as hell. They can't fix basic problems and they charge a fortune now. I was the ultimate tradie shill before. But the education of this lot is shocking.
I know tradies who've got out of the trade due to what they call "dumbing down".

Drives them crazy but the ended up deciding that if they're going to be competing against or working with fools then it was time to look for another career and that's what they ended up doing.
 
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