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This is a result from our human population growth. More demand for gadgets make them are cheaper to produce per unit. Liveable land (including high density living), is becoming rarer. Therefore finding a place to live will be harder. Hence more people competing for land, water and secure food sources. Cheaper gadgets can never replace what really keeps us alive. I cannot see things getting better. Why did Peter Costello say have one for dad, one for mum and one for the country? Why were they so worried about the birth rate back in the late 1990's and early 2000's. Migration wasn't good enough because we should be making more of us and import less of them.
 
One thing overlooked in the commodore case is the cost of keeping it on the road.

My rego / insurance is 10 times higher than it was in 1988.
 
PZ99 said:
One thing overlooked in the commodore case is the cost of keeping it on the road.

My rego / insurance is 10 times higher than it was in 1988.
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But that's to pay the government to pay for considerably more infrastructure. More and wider roads, additional bicycle paths, more bridges, more tunnels. Old Dick Smith made a point about GROWTH addiction recently. Mind you we have nothing on the credit fueled American junkies.

 
No issues with where the money is going. It's where the money comes from?

My underlying point is not the ratio of how much it costs to buy things with your wage. It's how much it costs to operate / service / insure. It's this continual and increasing erosion of your stagnate wage growth that's the issue for many on low incomes.
 
PZ99 said:
No issues with where the money is going. It's where the money comes from?

My underlying point is not the ratio of how much it costs to buy things with your wage. It's how much it costs to operate / service / insure. It's this continual and increasing erosion of your stagnate wage growth that's the issue for many on low incomes.
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I lived from pay to pay for 25 years. I know what you mean.
 
latest rort a sugar tax lol what happened to the pastie tax and a tax on a tax of this that and the other tax . lets tax the governement they are pretty good at it or better still import more workers and tax them lol
 
Wysiwyg said:
But that's to pay the government to pay for considerably more infrastructure. More and wider roads, additional bicycle paths, more bridges, more tunnels. Old Dick Smith made a point about GROWTH addiction recently. Mind you we have nothing on the credit fueled American junkies.

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who gives a rats about dick smith ? went to his first store in bridge street years ago. no time for that jerk.
 
I think I'll be brave, and say there is a glimmer of revival, in the W.A economy.
It may be a while, before it affects the retail or housing markets, but the jobs are coming.
 
sptrawler said:
Collie is about 200klm south of Perth and 60klm from the coast. Just in case people were thinking, it is in outback W.A
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Been there (just as a tourist, completely unrelated to the power stations*) and it's a nicer town than I was expecting it to be actually. Not bad and seemed to have plenty of shops etc.

*Smurf being Smurf decided to takes some photos of the mines and power stations of course. Unfortunately I see that they've done a pretty good job of making that rather difficult without trespassing. Did see that Bluewaters wasn't doing anything though but Collie PS was running and so was Muja stage D as visible from some road behind it quite some way away. Pity they didn't have stages A and B fired up - clouds of smoke billowing into the sky would have made for a more dramatic photo but oh well..... :laugh:
 
Smurf1976 said:
Been there (just as a tourist, completely unrelated to the power stations*) and it's a nicer town than I was expecting it to be actually. Not bad and seemed to have plenty of shops etc.

*Smurf being Smurf decided to takes some photos of the mines and power stations of course. Unfortunately I see that they've done a pretty good job of making that rather difficult without trespassing. Did see that Bluewaters wasn't doing anything though but Collie PS was running and so was Muja stage D as visible from some road behind it quite some way away. Pity they didn't have stages A and B fired up - clouds of smoke billowing into the sky would have made for a more dramatic photo but oh well..... :laugh:
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Muja stage D, nice units, Toshiba must be 20 years old yet run as smooth as silk. They installed high twist blades, gave them an extra 10-20% output. You could stand next to them and not hear them, over the noise of 5 & 6, Parsons units.lol
A & B have been sent to the happy hunting grounds, at last, just another public/private venture gone pear shaped.
Collie is a Governement built 300MW unit, with provisions for a second unit, privately operated.
Blue Waters, built to a budget, so Rick Stowe had something to sell his coal to.
Then he sold the Power Station and the mine, I believe both are struggling.

As for the smoke billowing out of A/B Muja, there was nothing like it on a cold still winters morning, the line could be seen all the way to Albany.
Ah, the good old days, when environment didn't get in the way of a great photo. When quadratic droop, wasn't a prostate problem. LOL
 
sptrawler said:
Muja stage D, nice units, Toshiba must be 20 years old yet run as smooth as silk. They installed high twist blades, gave them an extra 10-20% output. You could stand next to them and not hear them, over the noise of 5 & 6, Parsons units.lol
A & B have been sent to the happy hunting grounds, at last, just another public/private venture gone pear shaped.
Collie is a Governement built 300MW unit, with provisions for a second unit, privately operated.
Blue Waters, built to a budget, so Rick Stowe had something to sell his coal to.
Then he sold the Power Station and the mine, I believe both are struggling.

As for the smoke billowing out of A/B Muja, there was nothing like it on a cold still winters morning, the line could be seen all the way to Albany.
Ah, the good old days, when environment didn't get in the way of a great photo. When quadratic droop, wasn't a prostate problem. LOL
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Yea, the good old days when the gov't didn't hired consultants to figure out how best to charge for every little freaking thing.

It's quite incredible the creative genius that's involved in finding ways to charge you for things. And it's charges that's not charged because of more work or services are required. Or charge because it make your life better. It's just a money grab.

So I did a Tap-In check with Sydney Water earlier in the year. Their app online was pretty good and give you immediate response as to whether your placement of a proposed building would be approved by them.

Then if you need a certificate, you then pay a fee and they give it to you. Which is fair enough.

Now, they don't give you feedback on your design until after payment.

That's no big deal if you land is clear. But if it's tight and you want your building as close as possible and say, test at 1m away, 2m away, 2.3m away...

If you do that then you'll have to pay them each and everytime the system automatically check for you.
 

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