The lunatic right

[sptrawler]

So this is interesting and tricky..
It seems the Far right movement in Germany is infiltrating Green groups.
Well worth a read.
German far right infiltrates green groups with call to protect the land
The Observer
Germany
Extremists exploit rural nostalgia and farmers’ anger at globalisation to smuggle in ideology
Philip Oltermann in Berlin
@philipoltermann
Sun 28 Jun 2020 08.47 BST



Farmers in Oldenswort use their tractors to recreate symbol of a violent 1920s protest movement. Photograph: Nils Kroeger
The poster advertising the evening of debate and organic canapés in Halle’s university district looked familiar to environmentally conscious Germans: a rugged pair of hands, cupping fertile brown soil, underneath the slogan “Farms instead of agricultural factories”, written in a font mimicking that of a popular biodynamic food brand.

The only hint the event wasn’t organised by sandal-wearing good-lifers but a local group of far-right nationalists was in the subtitle: “Let’s chase the globalists off our acres!”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...es-green-groups-with-call-to-protect-the-land

Or maybe the media, trying to undermine farmers push, to chuck out the multinationals?

 

[wayneL]

Yes. Anything to the right of Pol Pot is basically far right.

 

[SirRumpole]

A sinister underground movement in the US.

Far Left + Far Right = Anarchy.

https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/the-us-extremists-who-want-to-overthrow-the/12418260

 

[qldfrog]

Far Left + Far Right = Anarchy

Usually not anarchy but dictatorship: Stalin and Hitler were hardly different and are both sons of the great depression

 

[SirRumpole]

Usually not anarchy but dictatorship: Stalin and Hitler were hardly different and are both sons of the great depression

Actually, Hitler fought in WWI, a bit before the Depression.

 

[qldfrog]

Actually, Hitler fought in WWI, a bit before the Depression.

But the rise of both matched the aftermath of the crisis.
Obviously wwi reparations , soviet revolution et are not Great Depression linked and influenced.
But the terrain was fertile to blame the jews, the capitalists often represented as crooked nose London top hat caricatures often with an American flag added...and these in both far right and far left Germany and USSR.
There are many scary similitudes.

 

[basilio]

We may have overlooked this bit of news but only a few days ago a couple of Michigan militia groups were arrested for plotting to kidnap/kill the Michigan governor. This story outlines the role Facebook played in helping these groups meet, promote and plan their attempted coup.
The picture shows a couple of the arrested militia members.

Michigan terror plot: why rightwing extremists are thriving on Facebook

Michael Null (L) and William Null (R) at a rally to demand the reopening of businesses in Michigan, on 30 April 2020. The Nulls were charged for their alleged roles in the plot to kidnap the state governor. Photograph: Jeff Kowalsky/AFP/Getty Images
The platform provides tools for radicalization and coordinated violence, and critics say it’s been slow to ban dangerous groups

Lois Beckett

@loisbeckett
Sat 10 Oct 2020 01.00 EDT
Last modified on Sat 10 Oct 2020 01.01 EDT

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  In a year of escalating political violence in the United States, Facebook has served as a key organizing tool for violent extremists.
  An alleged plot to kidnap the Michigan governor, Gretchen Whitmer, was planned in part on Facebook, with one leader of the scheme broadcasting a video of his frustrations with Whitmer to a private Facebook group, and participants later sharing footage of their paramilitary exercises and bomb-making training, according to an FBI affidavit.
  
  
  Revealed: Trump-linked consultant tied to Facebook pages warning election will cause civil war

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A related Michigan militia group facing terrorism charges also used Facebook to recruit new members, according to the Michigan state police.

Michigan terror plot: why rightwing extremists are thriving on Facebook

The platform provides tools for radicalization and coordinated violence, and critics say it’s been slow to ban dangerous groups

www.theguardian.com

 

[moXJO]

We may have overlooked this bit of news but only a few days ago a couple of Michigan militia groups were arrested for plotting to kidnap/kill the Michigan governor. This story outlines the role Facebook played in helping these groups meet, promote and plan their attempted coup.
The picture shows a couple of the arrested militia members.

Michigan terror plot: why rightwing extremists are thriving on Facebook
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Michael Null (L) and William Null (R) at a rally to demand the reopening of businesses in Michigan, on 30 April 2020. The Nulls were charged for their alleged roles in the plot to kidnap the state governor. Photograph: Jeff Kowalsky/AFP/Getty Images
The platform provides tools for radicalization and coordinated violence, and critics say it’s been slow to ban dangerous groups

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Lois Beckett

@loisbeckett
Sat 10 Oct 2020 01.00 EDT
Last modified on Sat 10 Oct 2020 01.01 EDT

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  In a year of escalating political violence in the United States, Facebook has served as a key organizing tool for violent extremists.
  An alleged plot to kidnap the Michigan governor, Gretchen Whitmer, was planned in part on Facebook, with one leader of the scheme broadcasting a video of his frustrations with Whitmer to a private Facebook group, and participants later sharing footage of their paramilitary exercises and bomb-making training, according to an FBI affidavit.
  
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  Revealed: Trump-linked consultant tied to Facebook pages warning election will cause civil war

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A related Michigan militia group facing terrorism charges also used Facebook to recruit new members, according to the Michigan state police.

Michigan terror plot: why rightwing extremists are thriving on Facebook

The platform provides tools for radicalization and coordinated violence, and critics say it’s been slow to ban dangerous groups

www.theguardian.com

Ok again poorly researched. These guys were anti government ,anti police. That means they hate any government.

Daniel Harris

Brandon Caserta

Pete Musico

Names worth looking up. No doubt some of those involved will see Trump referenced.

 

[orr]

That's some kaleidoscope you've Mox.

 

[moXJO]

That's some kaleidoscope you've Mox.

You know that anarchist orr?

Actually what side would you an anarchist?
Because it seems odd they are lumped in with the left.

 

[basilio]

So now we know who was trying to burn down the police precinct in Minneapolis during the protests over the police murder of George Floyd. Wonder what Trumps reaction will be ?

Yep the Boogaloo Boys stand up again.

‘Boogaloo Boi’ charged in fire of Minneapolis police precinct during George Floyd protest
Ivan Harrison Hunter, a Texas rightwing extremist, bragged about helping to set the fire then was seen shooting 13 rounds at the building

A rightwing extremist boasted of driving from Texas to Minneapolis to help set fire to a police precinct during the George Floyd protests, federal prosecutors said.

US attorney Erica MacDonald said on Friday that she had charged Ivan Harrison Hunter, a 26-year-old Texas resident, with traveling across state lines to participate in a riot. The charges are the latest example of far-right extremists attempting to use violence to escalate national protests against police brutality into an uprising against the government, and even full civil war.

The case also reveals the extent of the coordination between violent members of the nascent far-right “Boogaloo Bois” movement operating in different cities across the country.

‘Boogaloo Boi’ charged in fire of Minneapolis police precinct during George Floyd protest

Ivan Harrison Hunter, a Texas rightwing extremist, bragged about helping to set the fire then was seen shooting 13 rounds at the building

www.theguardian.com

Member of far-right Boogaloo Bois arrested in connection to rioting during George Floyd protests

A member of an anti-government extremist group has been charged in connection with shooting a Minneapolis police precinct during riots sparked by the death of George Floyd, the Justice Department said Friday.

www.foxnews.com

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Check out the comments under the Fox story. Fascinating. Also worth noting that he Fox story noted another Boogaloo boy (a friend of Ivan Hunter ) was charged with the murder of a police officer in Oakland

 

[moXJO]

So now we know who was trying to burn down the police precinct in Minneapolis during the protests over the police murder of George Floyd. Wonder what Trumps reaction will be ?

Yep the Boogaloo Boys stand up again.

‘Boogaloo Boi’ charged in fire of Minneapolis police precinct during George Floyd protest
Ivan Harrison Hunter, a Texas rightwing extremist, bragged about helping to set the fire then was seen shooting 13 rounds at the building

A rightwing extremist boasted of driving from Texas to Minneapolis to help set fire to a police precinct during the George Floyd protests, federal prosecutors said.

US attorney Erica MacDonald said on Friday that she had charged Ivan Harrison Hunter, a 26-year-old Texas resident, with traveling across state lines to participate in a riot. The charges are the latest example of far-right extremists attempting to use violence to escalate national protests against police brutality into an uprising against the government, and even full civil war.

The case also reveals the extent of the coordination between violent members of the nascent far-right “Boogaloo Bois” movement operating in different cities across the country.

‘Boogaloo Boi’ charged in fire of Minneapolis police precinct during George Floyd protest

Ivan Harrison Hunter, a Texas rightwing extremist, bragged about helping to set the fire then was seen shooting 13 rounds at the building

www.theguardian.com

Member of far-right Boogaloo Bois arrested in connection to rioting during George Floyd protests

A member of an anti-government extremist group has been charged in connection with shooting a Minneapolis police precinct during riots sparked by the death of George Floyd, the Justice Department said Friday.

www.foxnews.com

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Check out the comments under the Fox story. Fascinating. Also worth noting that he Fox story noted another Boogaloo boy (a friend of Ivan Hunter ) was charged with the murder of a police officer in Oakland

Boogs are anti government. Some support the black lives matter and other protests.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/17/antifa-punks-and-boogaloo-bois-a-tale-of-two-scapegoats/

Super lefty link. But ends up saying that antifa and Boogaloo are very similar. Both are against the rise of the police state.

 

[basilio]

Boogs are anti government. Some support the black lives matter and other protests.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/17/antifa-punks-and-boogaloo-bois-a-tale-of-two-scapegoats/

Super lefty link. But ends up saying that antifa and Boogaloo are very similar. Both are against the rise of the police state.

Pretty twisted logic there Moxjo.
Perhaps we can just get rid of "logic" in the above sentence.

Boogaloo is an inherently white supremacist group that is agitating/preparing to start a civil war in the US.
To that end they have been actively infiltrating demonstrations with petrol bombs and killing people including Federal Police to trigger the civil war they are promoting. That's not conjecture or hyperbole. Boogaloo members have been caught in the act and boasted of their successes.

It is clearly a white terrorist group that is throwing petrol, matches and bombs into US cities to see what happens.

That is the FBI view.

Boogaloo movement - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This Is How The FBI Says A Network Of ‘Boogaloo Bois’ Sparked Violence And Death

The killing of a federal officer in Oakland, the shooting of a police station in Minneapolis and a plot to supply Hamas with weapons weren’t isolated cases, according to a federal indictment.

This Is How The FBI Says A Network Of "Boogaloo Boys" Sparked Violence And Death

The killing of a federal officer in Oakland, the shooting of a police station in Minneapolis, and a plot to supply Hamas with weapons weren’t isolated cases, according to a federal indictment.

www.buzzfeednews.com

 

[moXJO]

Pretty twisted logic there Moxjo.
Perhaps we can just get rid of "logic" in the above sentence.

Boogaloo is an inherently white supremacist group that is agitating/preparing to start a civil war in the US.
To that end they have been actively infiltrating demonstrations with petrol bombs and killing people including Federal Police to trigger the civil war they are promoting. That's not conjecture or hyperbole. Boogaloo members have been caught in the act and boasted of their successes.

It is clearly a white terrorist group that is throwing petrol, matches and bombs into US cities to see what happens.

That is the FBI view.

Boogaloo movement - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This Is How The FBI Says A Network Of ‘Boogaloo Bois’ Sparked Violence And Death

The killing of a federal officer in Oakland, the shooting of a police station in Minneapolis and a plot to supply Hamas with weapons weren’t isolated cases, according to a federal indictment.

This Is How The FBI Says A Network Of "Boogaloo Boys" Sparked Violence And Death

The killing of a federal officer in Oakland, the shooting of a police station in Minneapolis, and a plot to supply Hamas with weapons weren’t isolated cases, according to a federal indictment.

www.buzzfeednews.com

No they are not all white supremacists. And did not want to be linked as such.
They are anti government nut jobs. Once again you need to investigate further. The guys that got caught were anti government.
Many are pro blm and anti police.

This from the link you provide:
Hunter publicly boasted of committing violent acts, claiming he had “burned police stations with black panthers in Minneapolis.”


Black panthers don't gel with white supremacists.

 

[moXJO]

I'd further this by adding that this is the area where extreme left and right overlap. The common purpose of tear down the system will see them work around one another to disrupt the police state.
A similar thing happened in France with the yellow vests.

 

[basilio]

Check out this summary of Fascism in Europe. I suggest it has many similarities to the current new right movement.

Fascism in Europe

 

[moXJO]

Check out this summary of Fascism in Europe. I suggest it has many similarities to the current new right movement.

Fascism in Europe

Back to nazis again huh?


Its always going to have elements of it.
However it was born after pc culture, book burning, banning, and everything else groups like antifa, blm, sleeping giants, splc, etc have pushed over the years. The left is highly organised and highly funded and also accepted even by the moderates. The right is just getting started. But its mainly in reaction to what has gone on. I mentioned this years ago. You could also attribute a lot of Communist traits to the left. Hell, you could point out some Fascist ones as well.
You right at this moment labelling an enemy, once again.

The left have escalated to violent consistent action to change society. Often visiting homes of people they want to target. I don't see the right groups looking for power at this stage. Its still way too young in the movement.

No the biggest problem as of right now is that the shades of grey are disappearing. Its black and white.

 

[orr]

Mox do you have a copy of Phillip Galeas 'cook book'? If not go out and buy a copy It'll possibly help fund his appeal case on the 12yrs porrige he's up for. Could be out in 5, lucky us...
Keep us up on any 'Lefties' being sent up 'the River' for planned acts of violence or out massicaring childern and their families at their place of worship.
P.S 34 to 1 and counting as the legals implode... check the one they won; by the lenght of a couch.
And your efforts would be better described as Sisyphean not Herculean... silly of me.

 

[basilio]

Back to nazis again huh?

Not at all. As you would be aware if you read the summary.
Fascism in Europe had a very wide history. The overview makes it clear that many countries had leaders who were promoting far right programs. UK had Mosley Black Shirts. US had its own US Nazi Party as well.

 

[basilio]

Yet the efforts of Donald Trump to overthrow the US election with unsubstantiated claims of fraud and undermine peoples confidence in the integrity of the electoral system doesn't rate as "looking for power" ?

Strange fruit indeed...