Yep something a bit dodgy going on there regarding the whole situation.Re the Queensland shooting its a bit strange the clamp on information about the details and now the drip feed on how bad the three killed were.
Yep something a bit dodgy going on there regarding the whole situation.
It's also curious how to people in a very tight group ended up doing something like this.
Will we ever get the real truth beyond whatever narratives people want to push, I doubt it.
Suspect the killing of the alleged shooters may have been lets say "aggressive" and any distraction / painting people with suspicions reminds me of the bad old days off WA policing.
Wouldn't trust that commissioner either.
Funny how other news reports are saying they had set-up bunkers and fortified positions yet here they were using a Ute as cover.Qld shooters went to 'sickening lengths' to take out police
Queensland's police union says three shooters set up a surveillance system at the property where they ambushed two officers and a neighbour.thenewdaily.com.au
Did the police shoot at "a pair of legs" without bothering to work out if she was armed ?
Some questions to answer there.
Funny how other news reports are saying they had set-up bunkers and fortified positions yet here they were using a Ute as cover.
Ute doors ain't bullet proof. They try to make these guys sound like sophisticated armed terrorists. But they just seemed like trigger happy tweakers.
Earlier, Mr Dutton said Australians should be concerned about the rise of anti-authoritarian “lunacy” shown by the killer Train family.
Expected response from the dark overlord himself. He'd have us under a police state if given the chance. P1ss off Dutton.
It's not left v right..
Also strange that Right Wingers usually believe in less government but Dutton is obviously wanting more.
Absolutely, however responding to extreme violence with extreme violence has to be justified on operational grounds not just revenge. Personally I don't think that the value to society of keeping these people alive was particularly high, but questions have to be asked if there was a better way like surrounding the place and starving them out or bombarding the place with tear gas.It should also be said that killing these young cops was disgusting. I know that a lot of people celebrate when it happens and it's sheer stupidity. They were both young and most likely wanting to serve their communities. The neighbour should also get a mention as he was most likely there to help.
These trio of flogs represent the worst of humanity.
Funny how the poor lady, a victim of domestic violence as per a few ABC articles i read this morning, "brought up the stairs pulled by the hair in a house they were at in NQ " suddenly becomes a raging dangerous lunatic when shot most probably by mistake .Absolutely, however responding to extreme violence with extreme violence has to be justified on operational grounds not just revenge. Personally I don't think that the value to society of keeping these people alive was particularly high, but questions have to be asked if there was a better way like surrounding the place and starving them out or bombarding the place with tear gas.
Anyway hopefully there will be a full and impartial enquiry at some stage.
Can you give us the Munroe Digest, opps sorry. the Readers Doctrine... hang on, no . the Readers Digest, that's i, version of that Mox I'm a bit short on time...Tell me what I was referring to if you know....
I suppose executing such people could reinforce in the minds of other loonies that the police are arbitrary and ruthless and therefore deserve no respect. Totally crazy thinking to normal people but to paranoid nutcases, who knows.Maybe I'm a bit weird, but I think way too many perpetrators that randomly and willfully murder people, are taken into custody e.g Martyn Bryant of Port Arthur fame or indeed if these three recent murderers were.
Once they have carried out an atrocity like that and it is beyond doubt that they did the action, as in caught in the act, what is the point of risking other people's lives?
Add to that the cost of incarceration and the likely hood that they will spend the rest of their lives locked up, it just seems like a lose, lose to me.
Even if they had a reasonable grievance, to crank the protest up to these sort of levels moves the people into the fanatic area, where the cause is more important than a fellow human beings life.
With a social media that fosters and connects fanatics, added to an ideological narrative based mainstream media that only reports in a fashion that supports their ideological leaning, I think these sort of loonies are going to become more and more common. As seems to be happening in the U.S and schools ATM.
How society sorts it out will be interesting, my guess is there will be a gradual push away from opinion based media reporting to AI generated reporting, that becomes less padded, more concise and facts based.
Interesting times.
They didnt seem to show the police any respect anyway.I suppose executing such people could reinforce in the minds of other loonies that the police are arbitrary and ruthless and therefore deserve no respect. Totally crazy thinking to normal people but to paranoid nutcases, who knows.
How do you know the neighbour was killed by these 2..not 3 btw?They didnt seem to show the police any respect anyway.
Or the neighbour.
They didnt seem to show the police any respect anyway.
Or the neighbour.
He is dead, whether by the three or as collateral damage, doesn't change the fact I don't understand why there is so much emphasis put on saving the perpetrators, while risking more lives.How do you know the neighbour was killed by these 2..not 3 btw?
Because it is on the abc?
I'm surprised you didn't drop the "mein Kampf memo".Can you give us the Munroe Digest, opps sorry. the Readers Doctrine... hang on, no . the Readers Digest, that's i, version of that Mox I'm a bit short on time...
do you need it highlighted in bolds to know what I'm talking about ? Ollie North for el-Presidentei' got it yet?
He is dead, whether by the three or as collateral damage, doesn't change the fact I don't understand why there is so much emphasis put on saving the perpetrators, while risking more lives.
I would love to know what the formal complaints, that the ex headmaster had put forward, were.Maybe a long shot, they seem to be loners but if they were part of a wider network of like minded people then perhaps those others could be identified.
Anyway, more facts are coming out including this https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12...h-nathaniel-stacey-train-conspiracy/101778102 which seems to confirm that they were determined to go down shooting.
| Latham, Mark to the Minister for Education and Early Learning |
| (1) How many emails did the Department Secretary Ms Harrisson receive from Nathaniel Train, the Executive Principal of Walgett Community College Primary School, outlining problems at the school and the need for assistance during his tenure? (a) How many of these emails did the Secretary respond to in substance, not including acknowledgements of receipt? (b) What assistance did Ms Harrisson provide? |
| Answer - |
| I am advised that over the course of two weeks in March 2022, Mr Train sent 16 emails to the “SecretaryOffice” email account. Given the subject matter of the emails and consistent with standard practice and procedure, after an initial acknowledgement and advice on the appropriate approach and process to follow, the emails were referred to the responsible functional unit within the Department for attention and appropriate action. |
Question asked on 12 April 2022 (session 57-1) and published in Questions & Answers Paper No. 721 |
| Answer received on 3 May 2022 and published in Questions & Answers Paper No. 733 |
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