The lunatic left

[PZ99]

So in other words, someone from the left?

It's not a beat up, free speech comes with the caveat that there is no call to violence. Whoever crosses that line should be called out. This panel was called out, plain and simple.

Connecting "unbiased" with "someone from the left" is a pretty myopic viewpoint and merely adds to my claim about sensationalism. Thanks

If the panel was called out, that's fine. It does not mean the ABC endorsed their views.

Sensationalists are better off taking aim at the true source of their grief.

 

[SirRumpole]

The ABC usually flogs excerpts of Q&A on their shows the day after , but I haven't seen any for this show.

 

[PZ99]

The ABC usually flogs excerpts of Q&A on their shows the day after , but I haven't seen any for this show.

There you go... non endorsement.

It's probably because they are investigating if the content violated editorial standards

 

[kahuna1]

Sky news ... Fox news here ...

 

[wayneL]

There you go... non endorsement.

It's probably because they are investigating if the content violated editorial standards

Yeah only after everyone in Australia (except the lunatic left complained about it).

 

[qldfrog]

Sounds like a load of sensationalist bull to me.

Gimme a viewpoint from an unbiased broadcaster with credibility and I'll listen

Couldn't care less what Andrew Bolt thinks.

The real question is
Are these facts or not, if these are facts which i truly believe they are, i have seen no denial, then there should be lawsuit engage in the same way there would be if a white supremacist were to say similar

 

[wayneL]

The real question is
Are these facts or not, if these are facts which i truly believe they are, i have seen no denial, then there should be lawsuit engage in the same way there would be if a white supremacist were to say similar

Note the difference in treatment between these people and someone like Blair Cottrell. Cottrell had been pretty well behaved when on TV and hasn't said anything as radical, yet gets castigated and deplatformed.

One might not like what he purportedly stands for (and I think there is a difference to what he actually stands for and what he purportedly stands for), but he has not incited violence, as far as I know, on any TV program he has appeared on.

And just so no one gets the wrong idea I am not a follower of Cottrell, but believe he deserves a fair hearing just like anyone else, except of course if there is an incutement to violence.

 

[bigdog]

https://www.news.com.au/national/ab...e/news-story/873e5b6507bd77dfd121eb10d7e39b1a

ABC pulls Q&A episode over provocative language after launching investigation
An episode of Q&A has been pulled off all ABC platforms after complaints about high-profile feminists who “called for endorsed violence”.

The ABC has pulled an episode of Q&A from all its platforms, which featured panellists that “used offensive language and called for endorsed violence”.

Managing director David Anderson said the broadcaster would look into whether the program’s most recent episode, which aired on Monday and featured a panel of high-profile feminists, breached the broadcaster’s editorial standards.

Mr Anderson said the ABC acknowledged the program was provocative in regard to the language used and some of the views presented.

“Q&A has always sought to tackle difficult issues and present challenging and thought-provoking content,” he said.

“However, I can understand why some viewers found elements of this episode confronting or offensive.”

 

[sptrawler]

https://www.news.com.au/national/ab...e/news-story/873e5b6507bd77dfd121eb10d7e39b1a

ABC pulls Q&A episode over provocative language after launching investigation
An episode of Q&A has been pulled off all ABC platforms after complaints about high-profile feminists who “called for endorsed violence”.

The ABC has pulled an episode of Q&A from all its platforms, which featured panellists that “used offensive language and called for endorsed violence”.

Managing director David Anderson said the broadcaster would look into whether the program’s most recent episode, which aired on Monday and featured a panel of high-profile feminists, breached the broadcaster’s editorial standards.

Mr Anderson said the ABC acknowledged the program was provocative in regard to the language used and some of the views presented.

“Q&A has always sought to tackle difficult issues and present challenging and thought-provoking content,” he said.

“However, I can understand why some viewers found elements of this episode confronting or offensive.”

Priceless, just priceless.

 

[Smurf1976]

Priceless, just priceless.

If the political Left were a stock then I'd say it's going through a blow off top amidst deteriorating fundamentals.

A spike in volume and the level of public attention.

Meanwhile deteriorating fundamentals with the election outcome, Labor reviewing their policies and so on meanwhile the general public seems to be more aware that outrage has become an industry of sorts in itself, thus making them less likely to be drawn into it.

Time will tell but my prediction is that this time next year we'll have seen a major change and a far more pragmatic approach being taken. Those inciting violence or taking offense for the sake of being offended will be cast off by those seeking actual progress.

 

[kahuna1]

Tee hee ...

since I am about 40 years younger than most, consuming Fox news ... Or Sky seems to be the go for posters here .... maybe the white Australia policy still lives at Fox/ Sky news and their idiots here ?



PBS which in the USA is as moderate and fair as one gets. ...

ALL right wing hate.




Short memories of the right ?




Head dope at Fox .... same as Jones or that other idiot here at Sky Bolt ?

Maybe perception is not something that endures into old age ?

In 2018 in the USA not one single right wing killing spree ....

It thankfully is not here and ... sadly ... still alive it seems in some peoples minds.

73% of all mass homicides are by right wing extremists if one listens to the last one.

Lunatic right wing ? Or is it left ? In your mind ?

A Hoax according to Tucker from Fox ... need one be more deluded ? The Australian versions of it are NO DIFFERENT. If anything more delusional.

 

[kahuna1]

In 2018 in the USA not one single right wing killing spree ....

I jest ...

ALL OF them 100% in 2018 were right wing nutjobs !!

Every single one ... and we have Tucker crying about it being a hoax ? Or left wing actions ?

Same from Bolt and Jones here on Sky news.

 

[sptrawler]

I don't know about anyone else on here, but I gave up watching any news about 10 years ago, it all became a platform for journalists to pedal their beliefs no matter which bent they are.
As soon as it became 24/7 news coverage, anything remotely resembling news was gone. IMO

 

[wayneL]

I don't know about anyone else on here, but I gave up watching any news about 10 years ago, it all became a platform for journalists to pedal their beliefs no matter which bent they are.
As soon as it became 24/7 news coverage, anything remotely resembling news was gone. IMO

Same here, and same with current affairs programs, 'cept when twitter goes off about something. I'll go and see the footage.

@Smurf1976 great analogy. I get the same feeling, and hope you're right.

 

[SirRumpole]

Time will tell but my prediction is that this time next year we'll have seen a major change and a far more pragmatic approach being taken. Those inciting violence or taking offense for the sake of being offended will be cast off by those seeking actual progress.

I certainly agree with that. The outrage movement is wearing thin with voters who want a more mainstream approach.

Labor lost a lot of skin appealing to the fringes , although women in general are certainly not the fringes, the impression was that they were a protected species to Labor regardless of what they did or what their merits were compared to men. Likewise indigenous and LGBTI who certainly deserve to be heard but not when their message is drowning out those of the traditional Labor battlers trying to pay their mortgages, or finding a rental house they can afford while being trapped in insecure work and having the cost of essential services like power overwhelm them.

Let's face it, when you have the head of the Lefty ABC <sarcasm> say we are too politically correct then we know something is amiss. I think Albanese is waking up to the fact that Labor lost the centre ground when they started promoting the fringes.

 

[PZ99]

The real question is
Are these facts or not, if these are facts which i truly believe they are, i have seen no denial, then there should be lawsuit engage in the same way there would be if a white supremacist were to say similar

My argument isn't about whether they are facts or not.
The issue is the spurious claim the ABC endorsed the content when clearly they didn't.

Someone uses the "F" word or advocates killing a rapist therefore Bolt wants the ABC privatised.

And his followers go out of their way to be offended.

Sounds to me like they need to grow a pair

 

[PZ99]

Same here, and same with current affairs programs, 'cept when twitter goes off about something.

I'll go and see the footage.

That would be a very good idea.

Yeah only after everyone in Australia (except the lunatic left complained about it).

I think most people couldn't give a crap about it.

 

[Smurf1976]

Labor lost a lot of skin appealing to the fringes , although women in general are certainly not the fringes, the impression was that they were a protected species to Labor regardless of what they did or what their merits were compared to men. Likewise indigenous and LGBTI

I think we're witnessing a much broader change than anyone could properly define at the moment.

I'll try though and call it the "back down to business" change.

On all manner of issues I think most had enough of the hand waving, ideology and inaction and what they want are practical, realistic ways forward even if they're imperfect.

People aren't stupid and reality is that anyone who's had any real life experience, from running a business to appearing in court to raising children to doing any sort of serious work to being in a long term relationship, will be well aware that reality always falls short of the theoretically perfect scenario and that what works is a pragmatic approach which finds a way forward that's imperfect but workable.

That's what governments need to do. Find ways forward which are imperfect but workable. Explain that sufficiently to the public and the overwhelming majority will be focused on the "workable" aspect rather than the "imperfect" bit since most people know full well that achieving perfection is rare.

At the political level we'll see a stronger government and a stronger opposition. If one side isn't up to it then they'll face the inevitable in 2022 but I think we'll see improvement from both sides.

I also think that will be reflected right here on this forum - I've made the prediction that the problem of "General Chat" posts dominating will go away and I see no reason to change it. That remains my prediction - as everyone gets back down to business that issue will resolve itself indeed there's already some progress so far as I can tell.

 

[qldfrog]

https://www.news.com.au/finance/wor...e/news-story/7c300c71cc61fe6dc68076adb3fcec36
Hard to be more accurate
And actually nothing to really rejoice of, as a healthy sane alternative could really bring back the beauty of democracy, sensible responses to whistleblowers, or real environmental policies..but no, we got the new nazis vs extreme liberalism.
Anyway an article to the point

 

[kahuna1]

I prefer this ...

How weak minded have their views made toxic, their beliefs delusional and become stupid people.

Worth listening for those who clearly digest a lot of media.

I cannot count how many delusional projections we have seen on this thread, worship of people who incite violence such as Alan Jones and his actions at Cronulla should have seen him banned for life. His mate at Sky Bolt and his anti immigrant .... anti Aboriginal and loosing like the fool he was in court on one case and having the judge lecture him .... let alone his most recent comments about Greta who whilst intense ... his comments about her medical condition make me hope he does not breed.



Whilst people go gee I am fair minded or my opinions are my own, clearly we have a lot of those which listen and listen a lot to single views and then claim they are not infected with dribble. The mere way any story is presented ... facts missing ... twisted or worst denials such as the SKY people do or Fox news and you end up stuffed.

USA in October 2019 processed ZERO refugee applications ... NOT A SINGLE ONE .... first time in 3000 years. France is taking back the statue of liberty.

Welcome to 1939 ... whoops 2019