The Gillard Government

[IFocus]

Roster was 4&1 though - hard.

Soft......... I used to do 3 to 6 months months and 1 week off construction in the 70's Newman / Tom Price.

 

[Eager]

Soft......... I used to do 3 to 6 months months and 1 week off construction in the 70's Newman / Tom Price.

The older you get, the better you were.

The 97 pages of Labor bashing and Liberal whining on this thread is really a bit much...come on kids.

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The Gillard Government is doing a great job.

The Budget will will be in surplus next year, Aust has a AAA rating from all 3 major rating agency's (first time ever :dunno) Swanny is International Treasurer of the year, interest rates falling, inflation low and stable, house prices softish but stable, employment high, dollar high, environmental and socially responsible legislative change.

What more could anyone ask of a federal Government.

Damn effective too, with 130+ bills passed so far.

The Gillard government doing a great job???????????????Brrrrrrrrrrrr

...Pinkd bats ( and they are still trying to sort out the mess)...etc

I’d like to talk about that issue. The Pink Batts scheme (not Pinkd bats, loco) was an absolutely brilliant idea; it was only its implementation that was flawed.

The true winner out of the entire scheme was Darwin’s Theory. It wasn’t Rudd, Garrett, Gillard or Labor, who drove nails through live wiring or created fire danger through poor installation techniques.

Let’s suppose, just for a minute, that no fly-by-night businesses were set up to carry out the work, as there were by hundreds of unethical, free enterprising, rorting, rogue, child or untrained labour using scumbags (such free enterprisin’ folk normally vote a particular way too). Instead, let’s suppose, just for a minute, that every installer of the batts was properly accredited and licenced to carry out the work, with the appropriate regulatory or watchdog bodies watching over them and who they employed. The job would have been done properly the first time, to everyone’s benefit.

*sigh* The Pink Batts scheme failed because some people saw it as nothing more than a money-making exercise!

 

[sails]

...*sigh* The Pink Batts scheme failed because some people saw it as nothing more than a money-making exercise!

lol - just like the carbon tax?

 

[So_Cynical]

Set top boxes for the oldies.
Baby bonus is also getting a hair cut soon to try to meet targets.

Climategate Mk I - Copenhagen - noting achieved.
Climategate MkII - Durban - started 28/11/11.

For the record.

Copenhagen was COP 15 (Conferences of the Parties - COP) the 15th major conference.
Durban is COP 17 (Conferences of the Parties - COP) the 17th major conference.

COP 1 was held in Berlin in 1995...just in case anyone is delusional enough to think that all this climate stuff is something new.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Framework_Convention_on_Climate_Change

Well done Dannyboy, probably the reason you don't bitch and complain.

At least he's not as whiny as some Liberals on this forum. prob the touch of the common man that's missing in some.

 

[noco]

Set top boxes for the oldies.
Baby bonus is also getting a hair cut soon to try to meet targets.

Climategate Mk I - Copenhagen - noting achieved.
Climategate MkII - Durban - started 28/11/11.

Don't forget Cancun Mexico last year and the $599,000 Combet donated to the UN Climate change committee.

 

[Eager]

lol - just like the carbon tax?

Free enterprisin' conservative rogues saw the Pink Batts scheme as a rort and acted accordingly, costing lives and dozens of houses along the way; I hope you're proud.

 

[noco]

The older you get, the better you were.


Damn effective too, with 130+ bills passed so far.


I’d like to talk about that issue. The Pink Batts scheme (not Pinkd bats, loco) was an absolutely brilliant idea; it was only its implementation that was flawed.

The true winner out of the entire scheme was Darwin’s Theory. It wasn’t Rudd, Garrett, Gillard or Labor, who drove nails through live wiring or created fire danger through poor installation techniques.

Let’s suppose, just for a minute, that no fly-by-night businesses were set up to carry out the work, as there were by hundreds of unethical, free enterprising, rorting, rogue, child or untrained labour using scumbags (such free enterprisin’ folk normally vote a particular way too). Instead, let’s suppose, just for a minute, that every installer of the batts was properly accredited and licenced to carry out the work, with the appropriate regulatory or watchdog bodies watching over them and who they employed. The job would have been done properly the first time, to everyone’s benefit.

*sigh* The Pink Batts scheme failed because some people saw it as nothing more than a money-making exercise!

Poorly planned, poorly organized, poorly supervised. A TYPICAL LABOR PARTY STUFF UP.
History shows the Labor Party could not organize a p*^s up in a brewery. Four deaths and 180 house fires.and you say Labor did a good job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who is to blame? Oh no, not your beloved Labor Party. It's a wonder they didn't blame Tony Abbott.

 

[DB008]

For the record.

Copenhagen was COP 15 (Conferences of the Parties - COP) the 15th major conference.
Durban is COP 17 (Conferences of the Parties - COP) the 17th major conference.

COP 1 was held in Berlin in 1995...just in case anyone is delusional enough to think that all this climate stuff is something new.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Framework_Convention_on_Climate_Change

At least he's not as whiny as some Liberals on this forum. prob the touch of the common man that's missing in some.

How STUPID of me.
Sorry, my bad.

 

[IFocus]

The older you get, the better you were.

LOL yes I was a real legend in my own lunch box in the 80's gold boom one job I had there was no R&R ended up spending two years out there...........ended up with a bank roll and 8 acres in Margret River as a result them was the days........

Now of course kids go out now on fly in / out and blow it on V8 Utes and ice.

 

[Julia]

I’d like to talk about that issue. The Pink Batts scheme (not Pinkd bats, loco) was an absolutely brilliant idea; it was only its implementation that was flawed.

The true winner out of the entire scheme was Darwin’s Theory. It wasn’t Rudd, Garrett, Gillard or Labor, who drove nails through live wiring or created fire danger through poor installation techniques.

Let’s suppose, just for a minute, that no fly-by-night businesses were set up to carry out the work, as there were by hundreds of unethical, free enterprising, rorting, rogue, child or untrained labour using scumbags (such free enterprisin’ folk normally vote a particular way too). Instead, let’s suppose, just for a minute, that every installer of the batts was properly accredited and licenced to carry out the work, with the appropriate regulatory or watchdog bodies watching over them and who they employed. The job would have been done properly the first time, to everyone’s benefit.

*sigh* The Pink Batts scheme failed because some people saw it as nothing more than a money-making exercise!

Quite true. But let's be clear about whom to blame here: if the government had put in place strict conditions/proof of proper training, the rorting would have been minimised.
Instead, they allowed any idjit and his dog to register to implement the scheme simply by completing a ten minute online Q & A then attending a brief 'workshop'. No qualifying was carried out following this 'workshop'. You could have slept through it and gone on your merry money making way.

This done, voila, you're a fully registered and capable installer.

Of course it was a total shambles as a result.

 

[sptrawler]

LOL yes I was a real legend in my own lunch box in the 80's gold boom one job I had there was no R&R ended up spending two years out there...........ended up with a bank roll and 8 acres in Margret River as a result them was the days........

Now of course kids go out now on fly in / out and blow it on V8 Utes and ice.

You've got that right.
By the way Ifocus what do you think of this one.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ustralian-greens/story-e6freonf-1226210635178

Never a better time to get rid of workers conditions, than when the government, unions and industrial relations commission are in bed together.LOL
At least when the Libs are in you know who the enemy is. How many times did you hear that in the workshop and the labor party are wondering why they are becoming unpopular.IMO

 

[sails]

Free enterprisin' conservative rogues saw the Pink Batts scheme as a rort and acted accordingly, costing lives and dozens of houses along the way; I hope you're proud.

No, not proud at all. I didn't agree with the way tax payer funds were being thrown around without strict guidelines and requirements for installation.

We were living in a rental property and the owner wanted the batts installed. We had no say in organising it - just given a ballpark for when it would happen. About four shirtless youngsters hauled the batts in off the back of a trailer and were gone again in record time. Thankfully we weren't burned to death.

 

[sptrawler]

Just watched Cameron on Bolt. He was bagging Gillard but then checked himself when he said they had to focus on the bigger issues, jobs, I think he meant to say his pension.LOL LOL LOL

This has to implode the bullsh!t and lies has to fall over.

 

[DB008]

Soft......... I used to do 3 to 6 months months and 1 week off construction in the 70's Newman / Tom Price.

I bow down to you 'o gracious one.

 

[trainspotter]

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Gillard's socialism worked (same as our PM taxing everything and giving it to the “disadvantaged”) and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Gillard's plan". All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
It could not be any simpler than that. (Please pass this on)
Remember, there IS a test coming up. The 2012 elections.
These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Cheers and beers ..... TS

 

[Knobby22]

Trainspotter, that is a reworked USA blurb aimed at retaining the tax cuts for the rich despite the nation not being able to afford them. There is a balance surely.

 

[sptrawler]

Trainspotter, that is a reworked USA blurb aimed at retaining the tax cuts for the rich despite the nation not being able to afford them. There is a balance surely.

Yes Knobby there is balance the government just got it a 30% pay rise.
Have to lock in the higher pension before they get slung out of office.
Given by a (cough) independent (cough) body.

By the way is the $400 cut to the baby bonus through yet, to pay for this? LOL, LOL, LOL
We don't want any delays, god no.

 

[Knobby22]

Yes Knobby there is balance the government just got it a 30% pay rise.
Have to lock in the higher pension before they get slung out of office.
Given by a (cough) independent (cough) body.

By the way is the $400 cut to the baby bonus through yet, to pay for this? LOL, LOL, LOL
We don't want any delays, god no.

I heard a Nation politician supporting the pay rise this morning.

By the way, you know the baby bonus cut had a 9 month and 1 day lead time before it takes effect. Good reason to get the pregnancy happening. LOL

 

[trainspotter]

Trainspotter, that is a reworked USA blurb aimed at retaining the tax cuts for the rich despite the nation not being able to afford them. There is a balance surely.

Yes and NO ........ read between the lines irrespective of the origin.

As sptrawler clearly states ..... 30% pay increase??? WTF ??? We have a 20 billion dollar black hole and they are now starting to cut costs and increase taxes !! Sound familiar??

 

[Logique]

Where's our $900 for a plasma tv?