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What's old George been smoking ?
People would be worse off because they would be paying a new tax.
Also, the the free threshold is not $6k. It's around $16k after taking into account the low income offset. Carbon tax and all, Labor fails to get rid of the low income offset.
It's actually very simple.DR, George is one of the few Jurno's that actually understands the numbers but I take your word I make no claims to understand the tax system.
I'm so sick of seeing this utterly misleading statement. The tax free threshold before this announcement was in fact around $16,000 because of the inclusion of the Low Income Tax Offset.But Labor's plan, which trebles the tax-free threshold from $6000 to $18,200,
Did we, though? Didn't the Coalition get a slightly higher primary vote?As a country, we were the ones who were stupid enough to give this lot another chance.
I'm so sick of seeing this utterly misleading statement. The tax free threshold before this announcement was in fact around $16,000 because of the inclusion of the Low Income Tax Offset.
And the additional couple of thousand will be largely negated by the rise in tax rates.
To suggest the government has 'tripled the tax free threshold' is spurious and completely wrong.
Did we, though? Didn't the Coalition get a slightly higher primary vote?
I don't believe this sort of self-flagellation is realistic. If the decision-making Independents had not had their vendetta against the Nationals, the result would have been quite different.
I certainly hope so.Yes, and if the Liberal and Labor parties had given each other the preferences instead of giving them to the Greens, a different situation may have arisen in both houses.
I doubt that will happen at next election. It will most likely leave the Greens up the creek without a paddle.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/iemma-predicts-carbon-calamity/story-fn59niix-1226098657315FORMER NSW premier Morris Iemma has become the most senior Labor figure to oppose Julia Gillard's carbon tax.
Mr Iemma says the carbon tax that forms federal Labor's platform for re-election in 2013 is environmentally marginal, economically costly and likely to lead Labor to a historic electoral train wreck.
"One thing is sure -- it won't change the world, but it could change the government," Mr Iemma told The Australian.
Mr Iemma accused the Gillard government of betraying the Hawke-Keating legacy of economic reform, instead embracing the environmental policies of the Greens' agenda.
and,http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/mirandadevine/
Tasmanian incomes are in a hole because the Greens have stifled every productive industry for decades, from hydroelectric power to forestry. Now they are going to do to Australia what they did to Tasmania. This is why Gillard’s broken promise matters.
Yet, instead of accepting that robust [news] coverage is part and parcel of his [Bob Brown's] newfound influence, and the duty of a free press, he falls to the instinctive position of the despot. Shut down the opposition, muzzle public opinion and regulate, regulate, regulate.
It's actually very simple.
1) A tax which targets one group and distributes the proceeds (net of waste) to another is wealth redistribution.
2) A tax which reduces our competitiveness globally is economic vandalism.
3) A commitment not to introduce such a tax during an election campaign and to then go back on that word is a lie. In this case, a supersized whopper with double beef, double cheese, extra large fries and a bucket of watered down Coke.
I hope that's not too indigestible.
Yes, whichever way you look at it, Labor's carbon tax whopper is just too difficult to digest.Thanks DR I will ignore in the same spirit as you have appeared to give.............
It's actually very simple.
1) A tax which targets one group and distributes the proceeds (net of waste) to another is wealth redistribution.
2) A tax which reduces our competitiveness globally is economic vandalism.
3) A commitment not to introduce such a tax during an election campaign and to then go back on that word is a lie. In this case, a supersized whopper with double beef, double cheese, extra large fries and a bucket of watered down Coke.
I hope that's not too indigestible.
That image is missing Bob Brown's god like shadow over Julia Gillard.
Just when Julia thought she had finished being done over by Bob Brown, Rob Oakeshott starts up. Gee it must be hard being everyones b**ch. LOL
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...py-rob-oakeshott/story-fn59niix-1226104584858
[Scene: A car yard. John: Whatcha got now?
Bryan: It’s a Gillard-Brown.
John: The hybrid?
Bryan: Yeah. The Eco-drive system – not a good idea. An engine that can’t deliver hooked up to a transmission stuck in permanent reverse…
John: Green paintwork with a red interior. And steering that always lurches to the left for no apparent reason – that’s the one?
Bryan: The Fustercluck model.
John: The only one they made, Bryan. Not the vehicle of choice for the road to recovery – but did they finish up fixing the navigation system?
Bryan: Made it worse. Turn it on and it does a press release, heads off in all directions and goes nowhere.
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