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Logique said:
So they finally dip below 30% primary.

Does this qualify as having '..lost their way..'. Even a trail of breadcrumbs couldn't get them out of this morass - of their own making.

Also, bad news for Turnbull-ites (on both sides), Tony Abbott is now equal with Julia Gillard as preferred prime minister on 46 per cent, the first time Abbott has achieved this.

But most ALP voters now want Kevin Rudd back.
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Malcolm Turnbull has at least confirmed he won't cross the floor in relation to Brown's/Gillard's carbon dioxide tax, should it get that far.

As for old Kev, it will be interesting to see how much that knife wound still hurts.
 
Kevin Rudd's "learning expereince",

AFTER first feeling bruised and numb over losing the prime ministership, Kevin Rudd has turned it into a ''learning experience'', acknowledging his critics were right about a number of failings.
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http://www.smh.com.au/national/a-year-on-rudd-would-do-things-differently-20110617-1g876.html

while Julia Gillard publically attacks Kevin Rudd, according to the folowing,

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/6/18/apworld/20110618153545&sec=apworld

Gillard, in an interview published in News Corp. newspapers on Saturday, said her center-left Labor Party "lost a sense of purpose and plan for the future" under Rudd.
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Nick Economou, a Monash University political scientist, said Gillard's comments were evidence that her colleagues are considering replacing her.
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Interesting that this would be in a Malaysian rag.
 
Apparently Julia and some of the boys are giving a talk in Kevin Rudds electorate. Guess what, Kev wasn't invited to speak.
Sounds like there is internal trouble brewing.
Over here in the West just about every radio station is taking the mickey out of Labor.
I have never seen a government cop this much bad press.
 
sptrawler said:
Apparently Julia and some of the boys are giving a talk in Kevin Rudds electorate. Guess what, Kev wasn't invited to speak.
Sounds like there is internal trouble brewing.
Over here in the West just about every radio station is taking the mickey out of Labor.
I have never seen a government cop this much bad press.
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And yet I saw her on TV tonight where she stated she was "very secure". When will she learn that it is that sort of apparent arrogance that turns voters right off? The people are sending a message via the polls and she doesn't give a hoot?
 
She is very secure.

What she fails to realise is that it's in the crap she's buried herself in, which has now gone solid.
 
sptrawler said:
Apparently Julia and some of the boys are giving a talk in Kevin Rudds electorate. Guess what, Kev wasn't invited to speak.
Sounds like there is internal trouble brewing.
Over here in the West just about every radio station is taking the mickey out of Labor.
I have never seen a government cop this much bad press.
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The're sinking the boot in over at The Australian,

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-ascension-nears/story-fn59niix-1226077594651

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-ascension-nears/story-fn59niix-1226077594651

Rupert's obviously happy to fork out the overtime to his journalists.
 
sptrawler said:
Apparently Julia and some of the boys are giving a talk in Kevin Rudds electorate. Guess what, Kev wasn't invited to speak.
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Is this the Labor Party annual conference? Apparently it's tradition in all these events that past Prime Ministers are invited to speak. So a complete smack in the face for our Kev not to be invited to impart his words of wisdom.

Sounds like there is internal trouble brewing.
Over here in the West just about every radio station is taking the mickey out of Labor.
I have never seen a government cop this much bad press.
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Me neither. Even the pro-Labor ABC led all its news bulletins today with an extensive coverage of the 27% result.


sails said:
And yet I saw her on TV tonight where she stated she was "very secure". When will she learn that it is that sort of apparent arrogance that turns voters right off? The people are sending a message via the polls and she doesn't give a hoot?
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Sails, if you think back to the periods preceding any leader being dumped, didn't they all protest that they felt very secure?
I suppose she can say nothing else. I can't quite imagine her saying to journalists:
"well, I know I've stuffed up hugely, that my leadership style is every bit as bad as our Kev's, and that the policy on the run plan just somehow doesn't seem to have worked, so yes, I reckon my job is on the line"!
 
I listened to the Prime Minister's speech today at the Labor Party Conference which she delivered with confidence even though the opinion polls suggest she and her government aren't popular presently. One part of her speech I did find silly was taking pot shots at the opposition. The Labor Party should focus on what they do best. Play the ball not the man.

I like Julia. I can tell she is trying her best for Australia.
 
Wysiwyg said:
I listened to the Prime Minister's speech today at the Labor Party Conference which she delivered with confidence even though the opinion polls suggest she and her government aren't popular presently. One part of her speech I did find silly was taking pot shots at the opposition. The Labor Party should focus on what they do best. Play the ball not the man.

I like Julia. I can tell she is trying her best for Australia.
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Yes, trying her best to wreck Australia more like it.

She says she has a plan. That's what Kevvie said in 2007 and again by Gillard in 2010 and now again in 2011.

Her ultimate plan is send Australia down the gurgler and give her reason to nationalize the banks. mines, farms and manufacturing. That has always been the solialist left ideology which is one step behind communism.
 
noco said:
Her ultimate plan is send Australia down the gurgler and give her reason to nationalize the banks. mines, farms and manufacturing. That has always been the solialist left ideology which is one step behind communism.
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Get real. Do you seriously believe an Australian prime minister would be trying to send our country down the gurgler?

She is doing a lousy job and just keeps making bad decisions, but I don't accept that she is deliberately out to destroy.

She will be savaged next election. I just wish there was a promising leader to take her place.
 
These are the political hotspots for the Labor government.
Mining Tax, Asylum seekers, Carbon scheme, Gambling and now the cattle trade.
On the 24th June last year Julia said she would get Labor back on the rails.
She said Rudd had "lost his way" and the commitment she made was to fix, the mining tax, climate change policy and border protection.

Currently these 3 issues remain unresolved, while she has also added 2 more issues above.

So 24 months on, the people may see her as non- effective as a Prime Minister.
No doubt she is one of the better politicans in Labor, but has an extremely bad habit of "nit picking " at Abbott. This to me is a major weakness in her resolve.
If she had resolved even one of the above, she may have got some respect.

Labor cannot change the leader and continue to have the support of the independents.
The risk of a leader change will trigger a no-confidence vote in Parliment. The Independents will switch sides.

Gillard major weakness is to not resolve even one issue, before she raises another.
She is running the agenda, but flits from one unresolved issue to another, because its too hard. She creates new issues to get the pols up. Bad, bad , bad mistake.

Finally Colin Powell has 18 lessons of leadership, and lesson 1 is...
"Being responsible sometimes means pissing people off"
So to give Julia some credit, she has achieved this by pissing off 60 - 70 % of the Australian people.
Finally if there is a strong Gillard supporter out there, maybe you can send her the other 17.
Cheers
 
All doesn't seem to be well in the Labor camp.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/nat...him-to-be-gagged/story-e6frg15u-1226077769232

Add to that, Oakeshott giving the Labor party an ultimatum, if they get rid of Gillard he will change sides.
Who is controlling these clowns, now an independent with no standing or moral obligation to the party is telling them who they have to have as leader. Is he afiliated with Labor for their policies or because he finds Julia attractive, obviously his loyalty to the government is very tentative.LOL
 
sptrawler said:
All doesn't seem to be well in the Labor camp.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/nat...him-to-be-gagged/story-e6frg15u-1226077769232

Add to that, Oakeshott giving the Labor party an ultimatum, if they get rid of Gillard he will change sides.
Who is controlling these clowns, now an independent with no standing or moral obligation to the party is telling them who they have to have as leader. Is he afiliated with Labor for their policies or because he finds Julia attractive, obviously his loyalty to the government is very tentative.LOL
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He is afiliated by $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Thats all.:D
Now he is looking at his political future.
God help him!:cautious:
 

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