The Gillard Government

[sptrawler]

The problem is Noco, Tony is right but comes over rough as guts, Hockey is a nice guy but comes over fat, so therefore lazy. Turnbull just wants to be loved by everyone so doesn't no where to sit down.

 

[Julia]

Oops, sorry. Thanks, Sails. I was looking at the 2010 figures. Apologies, all.

 

[drsmith]

I would like to see a Tony Abbott with a broader longer term vision than what we have seen of him in opposition.

 

[sptrawler]

I read today they are backing down on the live trade ban, talk about policy on the run. Has anybody run the course ,statesmanship 101 or diplomacy for dummies for this government.
Please John come back all is forgiven.
Or maybe a life supply of gaffa tape for the labor party mouths.

 

[noco]

How much longer can this incompetent Gillard Labor Government be tolerated.

Gillard's character is in tatters. Her ratings are so low in the latest News poll.

Satisfaction 30%
Dissatisfaction 55%

Labor's primary vote 31%
Coalition's primary vote 46%

Abbott is closing the gap as preferred Prime Minister 38 to Gillard 41.

I am starting to believe Hawkie, "she will be gone in 3 months".

If the Labor Party do change leaders now, the independants stated last year they would not support Labor if there was a change of leadership.

Bring on an early election asap.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ord-low-newspoll/story-fn59niix-1226075299938

 

[Logique]

Do as Labor says, not as Labor does. And screened on Aunty too!

Lateline: https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa...mumCDA&usg=AFQjCNEF4Uwt9oNct6FRl1eE6E9KUWkLuQ
Roxon caught seeking big tobacco money
Australian Broadcasting Corporation, Broadcast: 14/06/2011, Reporter: Hayden Cooper

"...NICOLA ROXON, HEALTH MINISTER: It's time to kick the habit Mr Abbott.

HAYDEN COOPER: But the ABC has learned that the Health Minister once sought her own slice of tobacco industry support.

In 2005, in opposition, she wrote to three executives from Philip Morris, asking for them to support her re-election by attending a $1,500 a table fundraiser. The new MP, Peter Garrett, was the star attraction.

PETER DUTTON, OPPOSITION HEALTH SPOKESMAN: Well this just blows the Minister's credibility. People don't like politicians who are hypocrites, and Nicola Roxon has been an absolute hypocrite when it comes to this matter...

...HAYDEN COOPER: It comes a week after the Minister admitted to attending a tennis match as a guest of Philip Morris a decade ago..."

 

[boofhead]

Roxon admitted it on Q&A when she was on, a bit over a week ago from memory.

Dutton is probably concerned he's dropping off the radar. If we're interested in hypocritical politicians etc. then we look no further than Abbott.

 

[sails]

...If the Labor Party do change leaders now, the independants stated last year they would not support Labor if there was a change of leadership.

Bring on an early election asap...

I would think an early election is the last thing the indies would want.

Provided a new leader pork barrells with taxpayer funds as generously as Gillard, I can't see them rocking the boat simply due to leadership change. They might make noises, but when push comes to shove, I would expect them to hang on to maximise their day in the sun.

 

[noco]

The glum look on Julia Gillard explains it all.

Not only has she turned voters against her, her own back benches are about to revolt as well. An implosion is about to take place.



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ackbench-dissent/story-fn59niix-1226075251606

 

[Julia]

I would think an early election is the last thing the indies would want.

Provided a new leader pork barrells with taxpayer funds as generously as Gillard, I can't see them rocking the boat simply due to leadership change. They might make noises, but when push comes to shove, I would expect them to hang on to maximise their day in the sun.

Agree.

Noco, you keep on about a leadership change. Who do you suggest they change to and why?

I don't think they'll do it anyway because (1) they'd be more of a joke than they are now, (2) there isn't anyone who would likely do any better than Ms Gillard, and (3)
their problems are as much about policy, more even, than they are just about the leader.

Btw who saw that bit of flim flam on "60 Minutes" last Sunday, where Julia giggled like a schoolgirl, and most nauseatingly, stood outside The Shed with a coy remark to the effect that she had been told to stay out.

I'd say she did herself much more harm than good with that little effort.

 

[pilots]

We in the west are mad at the fact that when the next election is called we in the wests vote won't count as it will be all over b4 the pools here close.

 

[Knobby22]

Btw who saw that bit of flim flam on "60 Minutes" last Sunday, where Julia giggled like a schoolgirl, and most nauseatingly, stood outside The Shed with a coy remark to the effect that she had been told to stay out.

I'd say she did herself much more harm than good with that little effort.

True, she should sack the spin doctors and concentrate on running the country, policy and trying to get some gravitas.
Can you imagine Maggie Thatcher or Helen Clark doing that???

 

[Calliope]

And this poll is in the SMH, a newspaper with a left-wing readership.

Poll: With latest polls suggesting support for Julia Gillard is at an all-time low, can she recover her standing?
Yes
18%
No
82%
Total votes: 6538.Poll closes in 19 hours.
Disclaimer: These polls are not scientific and reflect the opinion only of visitors who have chosen to participate.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...ion-appears-20110614-1g1qe.html#ixzz1PKBc0QPZ

 

[noco]

I would think an early election is the last thing the indies would want.

Provided a new leader pork barrells with taxpayer funds as generously as Gillard, I can't see them rocking the boat simply due to leadership change. They might make noises, but when push comes to shove, I would expect them to hang on to maximise their day in the sun.

What if the Indies joined the National Party? Surely they would be safe from extinction!!!!!

 

[noco]

Agree.

Noco, you keep on about a leadership change. Who do you suggest they change to and why?

I don't think they'll do it anyway because (1) they'd be more of a joke than they are now, (2) there isn't anyone who would likely do any better than Ms Gillard, and (3)
their problems are as much about policy, more even, than they are just about the leader.

Btw who saw that bit of flim flam on "60 Minutes" last Sunday, where Julia giggled like a schoolgirl, and most nauseatingly, stood outside The Shed with a coy remark to the effect that she had been told to stay out.

I'd say she did herself much more harm than good with that little effort.

Julia dear, the Labor Party behind the scenes are becoming desperate and will do anything to overcome the current situation. They about to implode.

IMHO the longer they tolerate Gillard, the longer the Labor Party will be out of office.

As to Mr.Who would take over is anyone's guess.

Yes I did watch 60 minutes and thought her performance was pathetic. It did more harm than good.

I believe we will see some dramatic events in politics before Xmas.

 

[sptrawler]

The only Labor minister showing any smarts at the moment is Ferguson, the mining industry like him. The unions trust him and he seems to know when to shut up, which seems pretty unique in the Labor ranks.
However I tend to agree with our Julia, they won't dare get rid of Julia Gillard. More likely that the independents will be the catalyst for a spill.

 

[sails]

...Btw who saw that bit of flim flam on "60 Minutes" last Sunday, where Julia giggled like a schoolgirl, and most nauseatingly, stood outside The Shed with a coy remark to the effect that she had been told to stay out.

I'd say she did herself much more harm than good with that little effort.

No, it wasn't watched at our place. Watched the rest of 60 minutes but changed channels in protest. The pre-views were enough to put one right off the giggling gertie show...

Funny thing though, I noticed in the pre-views that Gillard was dressed in Liberal colours...

And this poll is in the SMH, a newspaper with a left-wing readership.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...ion-appears-20110614-1g1qe.html#ixzz1PKBc0QPZ

Thanks for the heads up Calliope - I just voted and there are now 7939 votes (about 1400 more since you posted) and still at 18% think she can recover and 82% don't think she can.

I think she has to get a mandate from the people at the next election before imposing carbon tax and pick up the phone to Nauru. That might stop the polls falling so quickly, however, it may be too little too late for Ms Gillard.

 

[sptrawler]

I see on the news tonight, the live cattle being held due to Julia's policy on the run( as per normal) is blowing up in her face.
Interesting Collin Barnett is getting involved, he is certainly becoming the "Lone Ranger" for the Liberals.
This term of Labor is going to go down as the worse performing on record. Four years, huge spending, nothing to show for it.

Getting back to Barnett, I wonder if the Libs will parachute him into Federal politics, at least he has the smarts.

 

[sails]

The only Labor minister showing any smarts at the moment is Ferguson, the mining industry like him. The unions trust him and he seems to know when to shut up, which seems pretty unique in the Labor ranks.
However I tend to agree with our Julia, they won't dare get rid of Julia Gillard. More likely that the independents will be the catalyst for a spill.

I can't see the indies creating a catalyst for a spill as they are enjoying themselves too much with their new found fame. And they don't seem to care much for the wishes of the majority of their electorates, so can't seem them being concerned at going against the opinion polls with Gillard's carbon tax nonsense.

Gillard is a "what ever it takes" power girl. I would think there is a reasonable possibility that she would resign if anyone dared to take her out. That way, she possibly has the proverbial gun to labor's head.

 

[sptrawler]

I can't see the indies creating a catalyst for a spill as they are enjoying themselves too much with their new found fame. And they don't seem to care much for the wishes of the majority of their electorates, so can't seem them being concerned at going against the opinion polls with Gillard's carbon tax nonsense.

Gillard is a "what ever it takes" power girl. I would think there is a reasonable possibility that she would resign if anyone dared to take her out. That way, she possibly has the proverbial gun to labor's head.

Eventually their new found fame fades and they are just thrown out with the dirty bath water. They are not stupid (welllll maybe) so they will realise as things go from bad to worse that at some point it is best to jump in the lifeboat. Rather than go down with the ship.
If they don't there is no way they won't be thrown out and then you are of no use to your electorate. Actually I am suprised they have not yet distanced themselves, lets not forget they had protracted talks with Abbott and Gillard before deciding their allegiance.