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sails said:
It seems that one of the biggest differences between the left and the right is that the left only look for the "now" with little or no concern what the spending and decisions of this Rudd and now Gillard government will have on the country in future generations.

Those from the right seem to have more concern for the next generations who may be saddled with huge debt, potential religious/political interference in our way of life and an economy with high unemployment.

Employment might be OK for now, but what are the longer term effects of the Rudd and Gillard "policies on the run"? What will be the longer term effects on the country's economics if/when a carbon tax is forced on us?

Sure, we can be selfish and not care, but I have growing grandchildren and there is no way I want to see them with massive taxes paying off this government's seemingly mindless spending sprees and find themselves under restrictive laws of certain religious/political groups.
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Ã'm with you on this sails, I have grandchildren and hope they are in a position to pay tax, at least that will show they have a job. What worries me is the huge wasted spending in the last three years and the stupid sending comming up on the N.B.N.
The amount of money, somewhere in the vicinity of $100billion, I just can't get my head around none of it is on infrastructure that will feed our kids or provide them with jobs.
If this is the way labor thinks you build a better Australia they are fools.
I really see it like me giving my bankbook to my teenage kids and saying run the family finances. They would run around like chooks with their heads cut off, new car, buy a plasma and wow must have high speed broadband for the study and gamming of course.
Is there any wonder labor get thrown out after they have made a shambles of the finances.
It's just so bL@@@dy sad
I really hope we are both wrong, but it sounds as though we have been around long enough to be able to tell $#iit from clay without having to taste it.
 
I actually think both parties are not addressing the problems.

I want to see the Libs propose some reforms. Its not all about balancing budgets. Nothing much has happened since Howards second term.
 
sptrawler said:
Ã'm with you on this sails, I have grandchildren and hope they are in a position to pay tax, at least that will show they have a job.
...I really see it like me giving my bankbook to my teenage kids and saying run the family finances. They would run around like chooks with their heads cut off, new car, buy a plasma and wow must have high speed broadband for the study and gamming of course.
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Are your "teenage kids" the parents of your "grandchildren?" They must start breeding young in the trawler family.
 
Calliope said:
Are your "teenage kids" the parents of your "grandchildren?" They must start breeding young in the trawler family.
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No I was just being reflective, remembering what they were like when they lived at home.:D:D
Does show your on the ball though. That was your brain trainer for the day LOL.
 
When I was a young fellow my mother said you get into less trouble when you tell the truth.
I passed it on to my children.
I have passed it on to my grandsons(3 of)
Now two of the three little fellow understand it ( 4 & 6). the other guy is 2.

So what happened to Swan & Gillard?????

There is a bit missing here somewhere.

Cheers
 
joea said:
When I was a young fellow my mother said you get into less trouble when you tell the truth.
I passed it on to my children.
I have passed it on to my grandsons(3 of)
Now two of the three little fellow understand it ( 4 & 6). the other guy is 2.

So what happened to Abbott, Swan & Gillard?????

There is a bit missing here somewhere.

Cheers
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...................Found the bit missing. :)
 
Knobby22 said:
I actually think both parties are not addressing the problems.

I want to see the Libs propose some reforms. Its not all about balancing budgets. Nothing much has happened since Howards second term.
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Agree. Much as I despair about the current government, I'm unable to feel that the Opposition represent salvation. They are all self-serving with little genuine thought as to what is really best for Australia and her people, intent merely on furthering their own personal ambitions toward power.
 
Julia said:
Agree. Much as I despair about the current government, I'm unable to feel that the Opposition represent salvation. They are all self-serving with little genuine thought as to what is really best for Australia and her people, intent merely on furthering their own personal ambitions toward power.
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I agree with you Julia, bring us back Costello, or even Keating; we needs some balls here: ideas, leaderships, goals;
 
qldfrog said:
I agree with you Julia, bring us back Costello, or even Keating; we needs some balls here: ideas, leaderships, goals;
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Yes it has to be said, the Libs stand accountable for at least some of our present predicament as a nation.

They were determined to ride John Howard's coat tails, right into Opposition. They simply would not see that Howard had to go, 12 mths before the election. Costello just never had the numbers in the party.

I reckon most would crawl over broken glass to get him back, as would any taxpayer with an ounce of financial literacy. The surplus provided under Costello's Treasury is the real reason Australia stayed afloat during the GFC.

Having consistently opposed Costello in parliament, this current mob of ALP-Green 'drunken sailor'-like spenders run around claiming the credit, as if they had something to do with it.

So there, I've been even handed and criticized everybody.
 
Logique said:
So there, I've been even handed and criticized everybody.
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Well done Logique!
Reading today that Karl Bitar, recently no.1 guy in the Labor party now will work for Crown to try to slow pokies reform just makes me hate the political class.

Wouldn't it be good if one of the major political parties said that we should have the law that you can't take positions like this. Even in the US you have to wait 2 years after you quit.

Its all about the gravy train for many of the scum that make up our political parties now. No wonder Labor and Lib memberships are at an all time low.
 
Knobby22 said:
Well done Logique!
Reading today that Karl Bitar, recently no.1 guy in the Labor party now will work for Crown to try to slow pokies reform just makes me hate the political class.

Wouldn't it be good if one of the major political parties said that we should have the law that you can't take positions like this. Even in the US you have to wait 2 years after you quit.

Its all about the gravy train for many of the scum that make up our political parties now. No wonder Labor and Lib memberships are at an all time low.
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The Labor NSW right were / are in a class of their own.
 
John Smith started the day early having set his alarm clock (MADE IN JAPAN) for 6 am.
While his coffeepot (MADE IN CHINA) was perking, he shaved with his electric razor (MADE IN HONG KONG).
He put on a dress shirt (MADE IN SRI LANKA), designer jeans (MADE IN SINGAPORE) and tennis shoes (MADE IN KOREA).
After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet (MADE IN INDIA) he sat down with his calculator (MADE IN MEXICO) to see how much he could spend today.
After setting his watch (MADE IN TAIWAN) to the radio (MADE IN INDIA) he got in his car (MADE IN GERMANY) filled it with GAS (from Saudi Arabia) and continued his search for a good paying AUSTRALIAN JOB.
At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day checking his Computer (made in MALAYSIA), John decided to relax for a while.
He put on his sandals (MADE IN BRAZIL), poured himself a glass of wine (MADE IN FRANCE) and turned on his TV (MADE IN INDONESIA), and then wondered why he can't find a decent paying job in AUSTRALIA.

AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT WHO ARE GOING TO CREATE EVEN MORE JOBS OVERSEAS WITH A CARBON TAX DESIGNED TO DESTROY EVEN MORE AUSTRALIAN JOBS BECAUSE IT'S IN THE "NATIONAL INTEREST" - according to an `Un-Elected PRIME MINISTER’ MADE IN WALES.
 
sptrawler said:
Well Julia it seems the action is moving up a notch.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...berra-eyes-china/story-fn6q7nm8-1226064451924

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...nd-in-tax-debate/story-e6frgago-1226064396114
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From the second link, outgoing Woodside boss Don Voelte gave Wayne Swan this backhander,

At The Australian Deutsche Bank Business Leaders Forum yesterday in Perth, outgoing Woodside boss Don Voelte echoed the views of many in the industry when he praised Resources Minister Martin Ferguson but treated Swan with contempt, saying he had been taught only to say nice things about people, so would say nothing about Swan.
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Colin Barnett also got stuck into the proposed carbon tax,

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...tonne-carbon-tax/story-fn6q7nm8-1226064412865
 
Thanks sp and dr. Read those articles with interest in "The Australian" this morning.
Mr Swan's credibility is looking minimal, to say the least.

This, from one of the articles:
The economy is a lot weaker than most people think and certainly anyone in discretionary retail would quickly agree.
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We've been hearing too much about the riches brought with mining, and imo this bravado has distorted the reality of an economy which is starting to look like a cause for concern.
 
The REAL Juliar Gizzard address's the media scrum on parliament steps.

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Hard to believe 3 and half years ago we had very little debt and a rosy outlook.

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