The Gillard Government

[medicowallet]

The Gillard government is definitely looking like a rudderless ship.

Love the pun

 

[sptrawler]

Yes it's a rudderless ship on a swanless lake with,brown overcast skies. Thats from a dubious independent forecast.

 

[joea]

Hi!
I have read some of the post about doctors.

7 days ago on Sunday afternoon, one of my sons had a accident going over to a friends
place, where there were to make pizza's for the parents on Mothers day.

He had a accident when a p-plater did a u - turn as he was passing.
He lost his lower left leg 6 - 8 centimetres below his knee.

I have currently been at the ICU (Intensive Care Unit) in Cairns for a week until he was processed.

What I witnessed, opened my eyes. It is another world, where time only seems to be stable between 7.30 am - 8.30 am when they have a meeting. The rest of the time they work in relation to the emergancy's for the days.
Yes the doctoring is a small part and the recovery is the big part.

But they save peoples lives. They are people oriented to the patients and family. They
seem to be a part of your family for a period, and then recovery takes over and the patients are gone.
I thought normal people are in a rut. We are "drones". We wake at a certain time to a time table and go about our lives. Then bitch about what we don't like.
The ICU unit staff go to work at a particular time, and then all hell brakes loose until
they finish their shift.
I take my hat off to these doctors, and I wonder what made them choose that career.

I am not looking for sympathy. But I did this post to say that "not is all as it seems"
To me Doctors are special people, more now than 8 days ago. At the very least I still have my son. As parents, " when our children hurt, we hurt".

I just wonder how this type of doctor winds down before sleep each day or night.

Cheer

 

[sptrawler]

WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH THE GILLARD GOVERNMENT.
START A THREAD DOCTORS ARE CRAP/ DOCTORS ARE WONDERFULL.
BUT GET IT OFF THIS THREAD . JEEZ GIVE US A BREAK

 

[trainspotter]

LMFAOOOOORRF..... Sorry. ... Am looking at this thread through a internrt phone. Just read joea post. Omfg. ... Sorry is not enough

 

[trainspotter]

WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH THE GILLARD GOVERNMENT.
START A THREAD DOCTORS ARE CRAP/ DOCTORS ARE WONDERFULL.
BUT GET IT OFF THIS THREAD . JEEZ GIVE US A BREAK

Sheet i feel sorry now. ... Bugger. ... And bugger again. .. Sorry about what happenes. Sheewt

 

[sptrawler]

Well wasn't being funny trainspotter, however if it is such a controversial issue it must be worth it's own thread, rather than fragmenting this one.
On the other hand if this thread has run its course it should be closed.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Watching the slow death of this Gillard government is like ....

Pulling teeth.

gg

 

[Julia]

7 days ago on Sunday afternoon, one of my sons had a accident going over to a friends
place, where there were to make pizza's for the parents on Mothers day.

He had a accident when a p-plater did a u - turn as he was passing.
He lost his lower left leg 6 - 8 centimetres below his knee.

joea, I'm so very sorry about your son. That's just a dreadful thing to happen, for him and for you.
As TS says, there really are not the words.
At least know some of your friends on ASF are really feeling for you. It's going to take a lot of courage and determination in the weeks and months ahead.
With every best wish, encouragement, and sincere concern.
Julia

 

[sptrawler]

joea, I'm so very sorry about your son. That's just a dreadful thing to happen, for him and for you.
As TS says, there really are not the words.
At least know some of your friends on ASF are really feeling for you. It's going to take a lot of courage and determination in the weeks and months ahead.
With every best wish, encouragement, and sincere concern.
Julia

JOEA I am so sorry to hear of the accident that happened to your son, I know how hard it is when something terrible happens to your child. Trust me when I say I know how hard it is.
Our best wishes are with you

 

[medicowallet]

Best wishes for your son Joea.

I hope that his recovery goes well.

All the best

MW

 

[sptrawler]

JOEA I am so sorry to hear of the accident that happened to your son, I know how hard it is when something terrible happens to your child. Trust me when I say I know how hard it is.
Our best wishes are with you

I should have added your strength will give your child strength, don't weaken brother he will need you.

 

[IFocus]

Hi!
I have read some of the post about doctors.

7 days ago on Sunday afternoon, one of my sons had a accident going over to a friends
place, where there were to make pizza's for the parents on Mothers day.

He had a accident when a p-plater did a u - turn as he was passing.
He lost his lower left leg 6 - 8 centimetres below his knee.

I have currently been at the ICU (Intensive Care Unit) in Cairns for a week until he was processed.

What I witnessed, opened my eyes. It is another world, where time only seems to be stable between 7.30 am - 8.30 am when they have a meeting. The rest of the time they work in relation to the emergancy's for the days.
Yes the doctoring is a small part and the recovery is the big part.

But they save peoples lives. They are people oriented to the patients and family. They
seem to be a part of your family for a period, and then recovery takes over and the patients are gone.
I thought normal people are in a rut. We are "drones". We wake at a certain time to a time table and go about our lives. Then bitch about what we don't like.
The ICU unit staff go to work at a particular time, and then all hell brakes loose until
they finish their shift.
I take my hat off to these doctors, and I wonder what made them choose that career.

I am not looking for sympathy. But I did this post to say that "not is all as it seems"
To me Doctors are special people, more now than 8 days ago. At the very least I still have my son. As parents, " when our children hurt, we hurt".

I just wonder how this type of doctor winds down before sleep each day or night.

Cheer

joea that's a hell of a stressful story when our kids get hurt it can tear our hearts out best wishers to your son, yourself and family.

IF

 

[sails]

Joea - so sorry to hear of the distress for your son. It must have been a worrying time for you and very difficult for him too. I trust he makes a good recovery and that he will eventually become inspired by others whom have lost limbs and yet still achieve their goals in life. It almost seems so flippant just to type a few lines, but please be assured that your friends at ASF do care and please keep us updated to his progress...

 

[noco]

Does Gillard and Swan really know what they are doing?

I reckon a hand full of high school kids would do a hell of lot better.

Could we see a Labor back bench revolt any time soon? I believe it is not a matter of "IF" but "WHEN" AND THE SOONER THE BETTER.

http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermail/andrewbolt/index.php/couriermail/comments/labor_close_to_panic/

 

[Logique]

Labor has nothing to lose now, they may as well have a caucus spill and ballot. Conversely the PM will feel she has nothing to lose by staying. The winners are the Greens. The losers are us, and Chris Bowen.

 

[Calliope]

Labor has nothing to lose now, they may as well have a caucus spill and ballot. Conversely the PM will feel she has nothing to lose by staying. The winners are the Greens. The losers are us, and Chris Bowen.

The Caucas can't replace Gillard. It's a sad commentary on the Labor Party but she is the pick of the bunch. Bowen and Combet have become ineffective - they have been too involved with Labor's most unpopular policies, the boats and the carbon tax.

 

[sails]

I went with my daughter to her GP this morning as he has now been treating her a few years for depression and other health related issues that are often the result of poor choices due to the long term depression.

He is a GP that has had a special interest in mental health for almost 30 years, and now he finds that the money allocated for mental health is partly being paid by stripping GP rebates for mental health consultations.

This is absurd - but what isn't absurd with this government... Swan sprouts off the 1.5 billion injection into mental health, but then partly pays for it by making it difficult for patients to get treatment at the GP level. This is unbelievably stupid, imo.

In my daughter's case, having a GP manage her condition is working well as he is able to address the other health issues at the same time. If she were under the care of a psychiatrist, he/she would not be qualified to address the other issues, so it makes more sense to let the GPs who have an interest in this area to be in the front line with these patients and then referring to specialists as the need arises.

Mental illness is a tough thing to treat, imo. I have been present for many of the GP visits and there are times it must be depressing for the treating GP as this type of illness doesn't always just get better. Although, this GP is pretty good at sorting out what is causing the latest issues. So, I am appalled that this government has no insight into the reality of supporting and helping to care for an inflicted person and now intends to reduce funding from the treating GP.

It seems plenty of funds for other causes of their choosing. Plenty of money for Gillard and her entourage and private jet to go to London to see the Queen. Shame on them.

More on it here: http://www.medicalobserver.com.au/news/doctors-paid-too-much-for-mental-health-role-says-minister

The Minister’s comments followed strong criticism earlier this week from AMA president Dr Andrew Pesce, who claimed the Budget measure devalues the role of the family doctor.

“The changes will take the family doctor out of the coordinating care role for people with mental health issues," Dr Pesce said earlier this week.

“We need to improve funding for mental health but this Budget decision gives with one hand and takes away with the other.”

So why bother with mental health at all if GPs and other mental health professionals will possibly try to reduce their time with these patients? The good ones will probably just take it on the chin, but I think it will decrease the motivation for mental health providers to help those in our community who desperately need the help.

Sorry for the rant, but I am appalled. Does anyone know if there is anything we can do apart from public awareness?

 

[medicowallet]

If she were under the care of a psychiatrist, he/she would not be qualified to address the other issues, so it makes more sense to let the GPs who have an interest in this area to be in the front line with these patients and then referring to specialists as the need arises.

Mental illness is a tough thing to treat, imo. I have been present for many of the GP visits and there are times it must be depressing for the treating GP as this type of illness doesn't always just get better.

What psychiatrist?
Don't we have a shortage of them?

Where is Swann going to get them from?

 

[Logique]

Sails:
...He is a GP that has had a special interest in mental health for almost 30 years, and now he finds that the money allocated for mental health is partly being paid by stripping GP rebates for mental health consultations.

This is absurd - but what isn't absurd with this government... Swan sprouts off the 1.5 billion injection into mental health, but then partly pays for it by making it difficult for patients to get treatment at the GP level. This is unbelievably stupid, imo...

Thanks, wasn't aware of that Sailsy. I'll take it up with my local MLA. Big plank of theirs in the last election. Ridiculous to undermine the frontline care givers -our local GP, it makes no sense.