The Gillard Government

[Calliope]

It wasn't on the menu, but I think you can blame Abbott for this incident;

 

[drsmith]

That interview by Howard Sattler, Julie Bishop's view.

JULIE BISHOP: No, I'm just saying that it's unacceptable for that kind of behaviour to go on, and people should take a stand. Now, the Prime Minister was perfectly entitled to refuse to answer the questions that Howard Sattler put to her, for example, and she was perfectly entitled to terminate that interview. And that's what I would have done. So, set high standards and live by them.

On turning back the boats.

JULIE BISHOP: First, it's false to claim that ours is a tow-back policy and it's false to put those sorts of questions to the Indonesian Vice-President as being representative of Coalition policy. What happened under the Howard Government, and what can happen again, is that Indonesian flag boats with Indonesian crews that have come from Indonesian ports can be turned back. That's what happened in 2002. In fact, Julia Gillard was the shadow immigration minister at the time. And she applauded the Australian Navy for turning boats back, on international waters, back to Indonesia, and they went back - four of them. And Ms Gillard said at the time that turning boats around was a very important plank in dismantling the people-smuggling trade. She supported it in 2007. Kevin Rudd, before the election, said that he would embrace a policy of turning around boats where it was safe to do so in international waters. Now, there is no suggestion that anything that we would do, nor anything the Howard Government did, would violate Indonesian territorial integrity. We've never said that. And it's absolutely false to call it a tow-back policy, and infer in some way-

HUGH RIMINTON: That wasn't the question that was put to him, actually. It was “turning back” not “towing back”.

JULIE BISHOP: No. It was -

HUGH RIMINTON: But “turning back”. So-

JULIE BISHOP: No. Well, I agree with what the Indonesian Vice-President said, absolutely agree with him. He said that there won't be a violation of Indonesian territorial integrity, and there won't be, and there wasn't under the Howard Government. And what Julia Gillard embraced when she was shadow immigration minister, what Kevin Rudd embraced as leader of the opposition, is in fact Coalition policy. Today we’ve seen another boat arrive. There are now 44,000 people who have come to Australia via the people-smuggling trade. Hundreds and hundreds of deaths at sea, a $10 billion blow-out, and no-one in the Government is taking responsibility for it. The decision that the Australian people have to make in September of this year is whether Labor have the competence, the capacity, and the policies to protect our borders and stop the boats, or whether the Coalition's policies, which have been proven to work, will work again.

http://resources.news.com.au/files/2013/06/16/1226664/584104-meet-the-press-transcript.pdf

 

[sptrawler]

Jee wiz doc, that's telling them as it is, shame the reporters only want to pedal Labor crap.

 

[MrBurns]

It wasn't on the menu, but I think you can blame Abbott for this incident;

What a pig I hate that, I bet there will be a few around that will look forward to returning the favour.

 

[Julia]

That interview by Howard Sattler, Julie Bishop's view.

Julie Bishop imo fulfilled her role really well this morning. Agree with her entirely that Ms Gillard should have set a standard by simply terminating the Sattler interview immediately on that first question.
Instead, she participated in the exchange.

Just one of the real points of difference in behaviour in the two women.

 

[IFocus]

That interview by Howard Sattler, Julie Bishop's view.



On turning back the boats.



http://resources.news.com.au/files/2013/06/16/1226664/584104-meet-the-press-transcript.pdf

The looks the interviewers were exchanging pretty much put the lie to Bishops position. BTW Bishop has never had to answer the questions to her own sex life of which there are plenty of whispers but of course that would be grubby wouldn't it given Bishop is from the pure right side of politics.

No comment on insiders......strange........ more grubby, gutter discussion.

 

[drsmith]

The looks the interviewers were exchanging pretty much put the lie to Bishops position.

What lie is that IF ?

Can you clarify from the above quoted remarks.

BTW Bishop has never had to answer the questions to her own sex life of which there are plenty of whispers but of course that would be grubby wouldn't it given Bishop is from the pure right side of politics.

No comment on insiders......strange........ more grubby, gutter discussion.

I have empathy from your point of view and can see how you are keen to discuss matters other than the impact of Labor's passionate fingers on their policy outcomes.

Our PM is the same in that regard.

 

[noco]

Julie Bishop imo fulfilled her role really well this morning. Agree with her entirely that Ms Gillard should have set a standard by simply terminating the Sattler interview immediately on that first question.
Instead, she participated in the exchange.

Just one of the real points of difference in behaviour in the two women.

Julia as I said on another thread, Gillard is an expert at deflecting questions she does not want to answer but instead she continued on because she was looking for mileage of sympathy. She was more than happy to stay with the questions because it suited her.

 

[Julia]

You're entitled to that view, noco. I don't share it.

The latest Fairfax Nielsen poll will have Kevin Rudd cheering and Gillard supporters very anxious indeed.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...gillard-and-labor-plunges-20130217-2ele0.html

 

[Knobby22]

Yes truly disastrous for Labor. I can't see Rudd having much affect though.
They need to take a long hard look at themselves otherwise they may be out of power for 15 years after this. (As long as the coalition performs capably).

 

[drsmith]

Julie Bishop imo fulfilled her role really well this morning. Agree with her entirely that Ms Gillard should have set a standard by simply terminating the Sattler interview immediately on that first question.
Instead, she participated in the exchange.

Just one of the real points of difference in behaviour in the two women.

I found the video of the Howard Sattler interview interesting in the context of her body language.



There was a change in demeanour just after half way through, but even at the end, she didn't look as outraged as she was later.

She also participated in a photo shoot with Howard Sattler after that interview. Clearly not a happy photo, but he looked more worried than she did. Surprising she agreed to it if she was outraged.

 

[sptrawler]

Yes, Sattler is just collateral damage to the Gillard game plan.
She played "rope the dope" and Sattler went along for the ride.IMO I'm sure Julia now says "Howard Sattler, never heard of him".

 

[drsmith]

What impact will this have on the increasingly nervous members of Labor Caucus ?

POLICE from the Victorian Fraud Squad have seized boxes of legal documents from Julia Gillard's former employer, Slater & Gordon lawyers, as part of an ongoing probe into the AWU slush fund scandal.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ize-files-on-awu/story-fng5kxvh-1226664754177

 

[bellenuit]

You're entitled to that view, noco. I don't share it.

The latest Fairfax Nielsen poll will have Kevin Rudd cheering and Gillard supporters very anxious indeed.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...gillard-and-labor-plunges-20130217-2ele0.html

Julia, I knew something didn't make sense when reading that link. It is an article from February 18th.

I hope the correct poll, if there is one just released, shows an equally as bad shift against Gillard.

 

[wayneL]

Out and about yesterday.... noticed all the men's shops are pushing blue ties LMAO.

 

[dutchie]

News flash

A large contingent of Labor supporters (estimated at about 7%) where seen leaving the Gillard camp.

It was observed that all of them were wearing blue ties.

 

[Tink]

So true sptrawler.

We have had Jeff Kennett come forward from Beyond Blue, maybe he is concerned for all the decent men in this country and what this woman keeps pedalling.
Even her party are getting restless..

It disgusts me to see this, as a woman.
The extremes a person will go to...
Men arent allowed to speak anymore in fear they will be branded - what is this world coming to?

 

[Logique]

The brinkmanship will continue.

Just heard on ABC about the latest Nielsen poll. Labor primary 29%. Lost 7% of men after BlueTie-gate. 57% - 43% 2PP.

Meanwhile, Police execute a search warrant on Slater & Gordon offices.

 

[db94]

The brinkmanship will continue.

Just heard on ABC about the latest Nielsen poll. Labor primary 29%. Lost 7% of men after BlueTie-gate. 57% - 43% 2PP.

Meanwhile, Police execute a search warrant on Slater & Gordon offices.

It'll be interesting to see if anyone will step up to take the job by challenging her. I doubt it, the position is ruined and they are doomed regardless of who they have as leader. Could it get any worse for Labor?!

 

[MrBurns]

If she does go a side benefit will be that Garret will go as well, if Rudd takes over that is, I hope she stays there but my tip is Shorten will take the job if he gets the chance after all the position of PM would be hard to knock back even if its only for a month or 2