The Gillard Government

[drsmith]

Kim Carr has jumped.

Next up Kevin Rudd.

I'm not sure what's left for him to say at this time. He's already been splashing in the water for a very long time and now more than ever, is gasping for breath.

 

[Julia]

Rudd already had plenty of opportunity to quieten his supporters which he didn't that speaks to what he is about

That's so true. Yet now he seems to have made the definitive statement that "there are no circumstances in which I will ever again lead the Labor Party". He has been pretty successful in wreaking his revenge and perhaps thinks they can complete their self annihilation with no further assistance from him.
Who would know? Rudd seems to have an infinite capacity for trickiness.

I agree one thing Abbott needs to do is continue to tone down the political spin. In this highly technological age, people can catch you out so fast with bad spin and hurt your reputation very quickly. While he has not put foot-in-mouth too much, he needs to generate more positive karma with the electorate, not rely so much on negative sentiment for Labor.

Agree. He is also socially and politically inept at times. Example is yesterday when addressing the group gathered to hear Gillard's apology about forced adoptions: he referred in his speech to 'birth parents!
Mr Abbott, the whole point was that babies were taken from single mothers against their will. If there had been 'parents' the babies would not have been removed. Further, he apparently suggested the babies were 'relinquished' which implies some voluntary action on the part of the young mothers which was not the case.

It's pretty extraordinary that in a really sensitive subject like this, he still cannot get his language right.

Excellent speech.............Gillard has destroyed some decent people in her quest for power:bad:

The non-believers in Julia Gillard's leadership are one by one jumping ship.

Yes, they will be much the weaker for the loss of Chris Bowen and Martin Ferguson.

Meanwhile, Simon Crean continues his public rants on Kevin Rudd.

Can't blame Crean for feeling pretty bitter. He went out on a limb and was left hanging there by Rudd.

What a mess all round.

 

[drsmith]

Can't blame Crean for feeling pretty bitter. He went out on a limb and was left hanging there by Rudd.

According to Kim Carr (in his current media interview), no one came with Simon Crean to support Kevin Rudd. I've also seen this reported in media commentary.

 

[MrBurns]

Kim Carr has jumped.

Next up Kevin Rudd.

I'm not sure what's left for him to say at this time. He's already been splashing in the water for a very long time and now more than ever, is gasping for breath.

Rudd might do everyone a favour and resign.............

 

[ROE]

need to call the election now ... how can you the country when you have front bench reshuffle every few months..

 

[Julia]

Tony Windsor losing his resolve, perhaps?

Independent MP Tony Windsor says he d support the opposition s right to move a no confidence motion.

AAP © Independent MP Tony Windsor says he'd support the opposition's right to move a no confidence motion.

Federal Independent MP Tony Windsor says he'd support the opposition's right to move a no confidence motion to test the Gillard government's numbers.

The opposition will put a motion of no confidence in the government at the next sitting of parliament - budget day, May 14.

Mr Windsor wouldn't indicate whether he would support the motion, saying he would wait until Opposition Leader Tony Abbott moved it.

But he says he'd support Mr Abbott's right to seek leave to test the market place.

"I think it's a debate that needs to be had and (I'm) quite happy to participate in it," he told the Nine Network.

"I've been saying to him for a couple of years if he believes that the membership of the house doesn't have confidence in the government, test it in the house, and that's exactly what he should do if he believes that, then we'll all know what the numbers are."

 

[Country Lad]

Anybody mentioned that Martin Ferguson pulled the pin? I don't read all these political threads

Cheers
Country Lad

 

[moXJO]

There is no doubt that benificaries of the welfare system and maybe certain sections of the business community are much better off under Labor.

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The only business better off are those providing kickbacks to the unions. Business has been set back 30 years under this government.

 

[moXJO]

I lol when I saw this reply

What ever it takes of Toon Town Posted at 4:00 PM Today
If anyone ever wondered what sort of circus you would get if you spent $300 Billion, we are watching it right before our eyes. New name for the ALP, Circus Oz Party.

 

[Miss Hale]

Blimey! They're dropping like flies

 

[Miss Hale]

Agree. He is also socially and politically inept at times. Example is yesterday when addressing the group gathered to hear Gillard's apology about forced adoptions: he referred in his speech to 'birth parents!
Mr Abbott, the whole point was that babies were taken from single mothers against their will. If there had been 'parents' the babies would not have been removed. Further, he apparently suggested the babies were 'relinquished' which implies some voluntary action on the part of the young mothers which was not the case.

It's pretty extraordinary that in a really sensitive subject like this, he still cannot get his language right.

I disagree, I was listening to what he said and couldn't for the life work out why people were heckling him. I don't think he said anything wrong at all. Even if he had expressed himself clumsily (which I don't think he did) it was inapproriote to heckle someone in that context. Makes me think there was an agenda there.

 

[drsmith]

The week wouldn't be complete without some bile from Mark Latham.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...fitzgibbon-and-richardson-20130321-2gik7.html

As for Kev's speech, I think he's been to Hungry Jacks too many times.

I suspect that's it for the resignations.

 

[DB008]

N.T. News Cover - LOL!
(read under the picture)

 

[drsmith]

N.T. News Cover - LOL!
(read under the picture)

One thing I liked about the NT News many years ago was the cartoons by Wicking.

 

[Whiskers]

Well... Gillard won the battle of wits and mitigated the damage in the short term, from speculation about the leadership... but the orchestra plays on with resignation after happy, smiley resignation.

Surely she is being successfully railroaded into being left with more unpaletable decisions re the formation of an acceptable government and ultimately quitting parliament for the good of the Labor party!

The party will eventually recognise the sentiment of both Rudd and Gillard, 'this party ain't big enough for both of us'. One of them has to go. For my money, Gillard is the fight and flight type. I expect she is likely to quit politics altogether a-la Howard if deposed... leaving the way open for Rudd to be overwhelmingly drafted back into the job.

 

[qldfrog]

That is certainly the spin Abbott will run but reality is its power and politics.

As for damage the bulk of Australians are better off today than when Labor 1st came to power

labour supporter or not, it would be nice to live in the real world, open your eyes, my 14y old son will still pay the debt we are gathering daily when he will be my age
you can have conviction, ideal, (I am not a fanatic of TA either) and support labour for this but it would be very nice to see some people living in the real world.
Do you live in Canberra? That is probably the only place where what you state could be true.
I seriously believe saying what you say is an insult to Australian intelligence
Anyway, plenty of right wing people can follow on this one , but please...

 

[sptrawler]

Well... Gillard won the battle of wits and mitigated the damage in the short term, from speculation about the leadership... but the orchestra plays on with resignation after happy, smiley resignation.

Surely she is being successfully railroaded into being left with more unpaletable decisions re the formation of an acceptable government and ultimately quitting parliament for the good of the Labor party!

The party will eventually recognise the sentiment of both Rudd and Gillard, 'this party ain't big enough for both of us'. One of them has to go. For my money, Gillard is the fight and flight type. I expect she is likely to quit politics altogether a-la Howard if deposed... leaving the way open for Rudd to be overwhelmingly drafted back into the job.

Does she have to be in the Prime Ministers position for a certain period before she qualifies for all the associated pension and perks?

 

[Calliope]

I disagree, I was listening to what he said and couldn't for the life work out why people were heckling him. I don't think he said anything wrong at all. Even if he had expressed himself clumsily (which I don't think he did) it was inapproriote to heckle someone in that context. Makes me think there was an agenda there.

Yes it was an over-reaction to a very mild breach of PC. Perhaps the "mummy bloggers" were behind it.

 

[Julia]

I disagree, I was listening to what he said and couldn't for the life work out why people were heckling him. I don't think he said anything wrong at all

You think it was OK for him to refer to 'birth parents' when the issue was all about single mothers?

. Even if he had expressed himself clumsily (which I don't think he did) it was inapproriote to heckle someone in that context. Makes me think there was an agenda there.

Sure. The group would have been Tony Abbott haters in the first place.
But imo all the more reason not to give them any reason to dissent from what he said.
It would not have been that hard to give a speech which left no room for them to have a go at him.

We can all agree about the ridiculous level PC has come to. But that's the reality amongst parts of the electorate.
I see no reason to throw away votes when you can appease people with more carefully chosen words.

 

[drsmith]

You think it was OK for him to refer to 'birth parents' when the issue was all about single mothers?

What would have been better for him to say ?