The Gillard Government

[shag]

This is all a joke right?

yeah send her home, the screaming crooked witch n along with that scottish twit who u struggle to understand n uses this n volume to overtalk everyone, wong may as well go back too, shes taken to screaming too n as useless as most at the top of them.
u get a bit sick of poms etc comming out and trying to tell the Colonianals what to do etc, as if they know better. unions were built on it. their preselection process abuses democracy n skews representation such as this.

like 300bill debt....for nought. as the twit would yell if honest.

 

[IFocus]

I think you have called it dead right.
Labor know they are going to be creamed, this is all about the internal battle between the unions and the moderates in Labor.
The unions are fighting for their survival in the Labor party.
If it is an absolute flogging in the election, the union influence in Labor will be over, they are in real trouble.
Selling out to the Greens was never a good option.
This is the problem when you put yourself before the team, the team ends up losing.

I don't think its a factions survival thing more a case of Rudd and or his supporters sniping from the side lines causing chaos plus some politically woeful decisions by Gillard that will see annihilation at the next poll.

Crean I think tried to stir up the party to either resolve Rudd one way or another or dump everyone and start again. When you go to a spill motion any thing can and will happen Abbotts one vote win is an excellent example.

As for the calls for an election now based on polls or the behaviour of a fraud opposition leader from others maybe they haven't followed politics for very long.

 

[drsmith]

As for the calls for an election now based on polls or the behaviour of a fraud opposition leader from others maybe they haven't followed politics for very long.

Tony Abbott is calling for an election on the basis of the incompetence of the current government.

It was a sentiment that Tony Windsor, Rob Oakeshott and Andrew Wilkie agreed with in the house yesterday. Oakshott and Windsor's support of Tony Abbott's move yesterday to suspend standing orders to put forward a no confidence motion in the PM was extraordinary in light of them being part of the government.

Even today explosions continue at the house of the ALP. Rudd supporter Chris Bowen has resigned from the Gillard Cabinet (ABC radio news).

 

[Aussiejeff]

Tony Abbott is calling for an election on the basis of the incompetence of the current government.

It was a sentiment that Tony Windsor, Rob Oakeshott and Andrew Wilkie agreed with in the house yesterday. Oakshott and Windsor's support of Tony Abbott's move yesterday to suspend standing orders to put forward a no confidence motion in the PM was extraordinary in light of them being part of the government.

Even today explosions continue at the house of the ALP. Rudd supporter Chris Bowen has resigned from the Gillard Cabinet (ABC radio news).

We await the ultimate resignation with belated breath...unfortunately far from resigning as is our wont, the incumbent will need to be dragged kicking and shrieking from office after the party is over.

 

[Calliope]

The mystery is...how could such a boofheaded, gutless windbag have fooled so many people for so long?


Kevin Rudd was pumped up in Parliament at 12:35pm (left) but by 4:15pm said he wouldn't challenge for the leadership.

 

[dutchie]

The mystery is...how could such a boofheaded, gutless windbag have fooled so many people for so long?

It's a mystery to me too.

 

[MrBurns]

The mystery is...how could such a boofheaded, gutless windbag have fooled so many people for so long?
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They're Labor supporters they'll believe anything, just ask Bob Hawke.

 

[IFocus]

Tony Abbott is calling for an election on the basis of the incompetence of the current government.

It was a sentiment that Tony Windsor, Rob Oakeshott and Andrew Wilkie agreed with in the house yesterday. Oakshott and Windsor's support of Tony Abbott's move yesterday to suspend standing orders to put forward a no confidence motion in the PM was extraordinary in light of them being part of the government.

Even today explosions continue at the house of the ALP. Rudd supporter Chris Bowen has resigned from the Gillard Cabinet (ABC radio news).

Abbott has been doing this since he failed to form government.

The independents certainly made a point but if they wanted to they could have bought the government down this they didn't do.

And plenty of fall out to come I think mostly negative for Labor.

A rampant Abbott as PM with a massive mandate is where we are headed I think, serious threat for Australia as he pays back the right I suspect.

 

[drsmith]

Kevin Rudd today,

"Mr Rudd has said consistently over the last 12 months that he would not challenge for the Labor leadership and that he would contest the next election as a local member of Parliament at the next election. That position has not changed."

"Furthermore, Mr Rudd wishes to make 100 per cent clear to all members of the parliamentary Labor Party, including his own supporters, that there are no circumstances under which he will return to the Labor Party leadership in the future."

Time will tell.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/the-pulse-live/politics-live-march-22-2013-20130322-2gjkw.html

 

[IFocus]

Kevin Rudd today,



Time will tell.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/the-pulse-live/politics-live-march-22-2013-20130322-2gjkw.html

Rudd already had plenty of opportunity to quieten his supporters which he didn't that speaks to what he is about

 

[drsmith]

Abbott has been doing this since he failed to form government.

I share his view that it's largely been an incompetent government since it was formed.

The independents certainly made a point but if they wanted to they could have bought the government down this they didn't do.

Tony Windsor hates the Nationals and Tony Abbott in particular and as a group these independents want to preserve their legacy with policies such as the carbon tax. Their best chance of that is to preserve the current administration as long as possible, no matter how bad it is.

And plenty of fall out to come I think mostly negative for Labor.

A rampant Abbott as PM with a massive mandate is where we are headed I think, serious threat for Australia as he pays back the right I suspect.

There's no doubt the country would indeed be better served with two strong political parties motivated by the betterment of the country and its people as a whole.

Rudd already had plenty of opportunity to quieten his supporters which he didn't that speaks to what he is about

In relation to Rudd's character, it also speaks volumes about a party that is split close to 50/50 between him and his current leader.

 

[dutchie]

Abbott has been doing this since he failed to form government.

The independents certainly made a point but if they wanted to they could have bought the government down this they didn't do.

And plenty of fall out to come I think mostly negative for Labor.

A rampant Abbott as PM with a massive mandate is where we are headed I think, serious threat for Australia as he pays back the right I suspect.

More like he starts repairing the massive damage Labor has done to Australia.

 

[IFocus]

More like he starts repairing the massive damage Labor has done to Australia.

That is certainly the spin Abbott will run but reality is its power and politics.

As for damage the bulk of Australians are better off today than when Labor 1st came to power (but hay who can ague with Abbott spin) whether that continues under Abbott remains to be seen but really it has little to do with government and their decisions more to do with good luck and world economic conditions.

Of course governments do get to decide where each slice of the pie goes, note Howard didn't look after pensioners and the political powerless end at all now thats real politics.

 

[Whiskers]

That is certainly the spin Abbott will run but reality is its power and politics.

As for damage the bulk of Australians are better off today than when Labor 1st came to power (but hay who can ague with Abbott spin) whether that continues under Abbott remains to be seen but really it has little to do with government and their decisions more to do with good luck and world economic conditions.

Of course governments do get to decide where each slice of the pie goes, note Howard didn't look after pensioners and the political powerless end at all now thats real politics.

There is no doubt that benificaries of the welfare system and maybe certain sections of the business community are much better off under Labor.

I agree one thing Abbott needs to do is continue to tone down the political spin. In this highly technological age, people can catch you out so fast with bad spin and hurt your reputation very quickly. While he has not put foot-in-mouth too much, he needs to generate more positive karma with the electorate, not rely so much on negative sentiment for Labor.

To combat Rudd, he will need to be seen to be taking the higher moral and ethical road in his demeanour and policy statements.

 

[MrBurns]

Martin Ferguson....gone.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-...s-as-labor-spill-claims-another-scalp/4589062

 

[MrBurns]

Martin Ferguson....gone.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-...s-as-labor-spill-claims-another-scalp/4589062

Excellent speech.............Gillard has destroyed some decent people in her quest for power:bad:

 

[dutchie]

Forced adoption victims 'disgusted' at Labor spill


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-22/forced-adoption-victims-disgusted-at-labor-spill/4588552

 

[Miss Hale]

Martin Ferguson....gone.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-...s-as-labor-spill-claims-another-scalp/4589062

That's a shame. He's one of the few Labor MPs that I thought wasn't too bad.

 

[drsmith]

The non-believers in Julia Gillard's leadership are one by one jumping ship.

Next up to the plank will be Kim Carr (Fairfax).

Meanwhile, Simon Crean continues his public rants on Kevin Rudd.

 

[MrBurns]

All that's left is Gillards lapdogs, Australia is Gillard playground now for the next 6 months.