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The Gillard Government

Only the one she spoke about last night (abortion).

I am impressed with the way Julie Bishop rejects Gillard's claims to be a victim of male chauvinism. She gives Gillard some good advice.

The day will come when you can no longer call the gender card or the victim card, and by pretending to be a victim the prime minister has demeaned every woman in this parliament…

We didn’t come here to be told that we could not do the job and needed to be treated differently.

We came here on this side of the parliament to say we were the best person for the job to represent the people, and the ideas we have are the best ideas to take us into government.

We don’t wish to be treated as somehow less able or a victim of somebody’s spiteful words…

Could you imagine (German chancellor) Angela Merkel making a speech like that, or Maggie Thatcher making a speech like that?

Of course not. The fact of the matter is if you take leadership you must exercise leadership and if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
 
The day will come when you can no longer call the gender card or the victim card, and by pretending to be a victim the prime minister has demeaned every woman in this parliament…

We didn’t come here to be told that we could not do the job and needed to be treated differently.

We came here on this side of the parliament to say we were the best person for the job to represent the people, and the ideas we have are the best ideas to take us into government.

We don’t wish to be treated as somehow less able or a victim of somebody’s spiteful words…

Could you imagine (German chancellor) Angela Merkel making a speech like that, or Maggie Thatcher making a speech like that?

Of course not. The fact of the matter is if you take leadership you must exercise leadership and if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Yes, the above is the sort of stuff we should be hearing from a woman in parliament. Really shows up Gillard for what she is.
 
I actually think both sides of politics don't even remember that they are supposed to be running a country. This whole saga is mind-numblingly boring. To be honest, I could care less what someone thinks of someone else. Why are we becoming so Americanised in turning politics into a game of nitpicking. Bring out a policy, I don't care what side does it and debate something of actual importance rather than what someone did or didn't say. There's far bigger issues facing this country than whether the estrogen/testosterone ratio in the Parliament is balanced.
 
How can Anna Burke perform her duties as speaker with any fairness or impartiality ?



New Speaker Anna Burke backs Julia Gillard in gender war

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...rd-in-gender-war/story-fn59niix-1226494243940

It is an absolute farce the way politicians are acting and it is not in the best interest of our great country.

Personally, I am sick to death of Gillard and her Green/Labor socialist left wing government. If the Governor General had any balls, she would sack the lot and call a double dissolution of both houses. But of course we all know why she can't or won't!!!!!!!!

How much more damage can they do if they stay in office for another 12 months.
 
I actually think both sides of politics don't even remember that they are supposed to be running a country. This whole saga is mind-numblingly boring. To be honest, I could care less what someone thinks of someone else. Why are we becoming so Americanised in turning politics into a game of nitpicking. Bring out a policy, I don't care what side does it and debate something of actual importance rather than what someone did or didn't say. There's far bigger issues facing this country than whether the estrogen/testosterone ratio in the Parliament is balanced.
+1 I completely agree.

The people in the media, the public (via letters to the editor, blogs and threads like this) seem to lap up every minute detail however, which I guess is why the wheel keeps spinning.

When you see personality debates confused with actual intellectual debate you know something needs to happen.

unfortunately, history shows and it has become more and more obvious since mass-media took over that rhetoric wins elections more than actual ideas.
 
How can Anna Burke perform her duties as speaker with any fairness or impartiality ?
New Speaker Anna Burke backs Julia Gillard in gender war

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...rd-in-gender-war/story-fn59niix-1226494243940
That is really concerning. I'm as against sexism - let alone misogyny - as anyone, but the farcical level Gillard went to her in her tirade this week was just embarrassing. And I'm not a Tony Abbott fan.

+1 I completely agree.

The people in the media, the public (via letters to the editor, blogs and threads like this) seem to lap up every minute detail however, which I guess is why the wheel keeps spinning.

When you see personality debates confused with actual intellectual debate you know something needs to happen.

unfortunately, history shows and it has become more and more obvious since mass-media took over that rhetoric wins elections more than actual ideas.
+1 to this and to McLovin's remarks.
Your last comment, Ves, is a good point. It seems that some politicians are now directing their entire approach toward what is going to play best across general and social media. The power of social media alone to generate a reaction to a quasi hysterical level is becoming increasingly apparent.

The overseas newspaper praise for Gillard's recent invective, where they failed to report the wider context, is an example.

The whole parliament seems to have descended into this paltry, tawdry exchange of viciousness. It is up to the Prime Minister to get over herself and move the discourse to a discussion of what will best advantage Australia in an ever more depressing climate.
 
+1 to this and to McLovin's remarks.
Your last comment, Ves, is a good point. It seems that some politicians are now directing their entire approach toward what is going to play best across general and social media. The power of social media alone to generate a reaction to a quasi hysterical level is becoming increasingly apparent.

I agree.

It's unfortunate because it means the real economic reforms of the '80s and '90s would be impossible today. There is no analysis anymore, just soundbites and one-liners. The media are just as much to blame. Outside of the ABC, when was the last time one of the networks did any sort of investigative journalism? They have gone from being the fourth estate to nothing more than a parasitic rumour machine that feeds off leaks and innuendo provided by the very people they are supposed to be keeping in check. There are no journalists left in television, just reporters.

Bam! That was a surprisingly well written tirade!:D
 
If the Governor General had any balls, ...

I can confirm that the Governor General does not have balls. Neither does the Prime Minister, the Governor of NSW or the Lord Mayor of Sydney. No wonder Alan Jones is so upset.
 
I agree.

It's unfortunate because it means the real economic reforms of the '80s and '90s would be impossible today. There is no analysis anymore, just soundbites and one-liners. The media are just as much to blame. Outside of the ABC, when was the last time one of the networks did any sort of investigative journalism? They have gone from being the fourth estate to nothing more than a parasitic rumour machine that feeds off leaks and innuendo provided by the very people they are supposed to be keeping in check. There are no journalists left in television, just reporters.

Bam! That was a surprisingly well written tirade!:D

Wow McLovin, great post, just shows it is better to write the posts pre evening drinks.LOL
I have to agree with you, the evening news is more like a weekly magazine, full of gossip and glitz.
They would be lucky to have 10 minutes of news in a news hour, it's an absolute joke.
 
The day the speaker participates in partisan political commentary is another day of shame for our parliament.

Likewise is the day the opposition leader calls the PM silly names across the floor and the PM dobs him in.
 
The next big step for this government, is how to introduce even more new taxes, to plug holes they have blown in the economy.
Seven years of financially inept people, trying to cope with running the country, when they couldn't even run a school canteen.
Worlds greatest treasurer, more like worlds greatest comedian.:cry:
 
I know it seems longer, but Labor's only been in for 5. ;)

I was sure they couldn't have done this much damage in five, so I gave them an extra couple.:D
Funny isn't it, it feels as though they have been in for longer.
I guess it's like a tooth ache, a couple of days seem like a lifetime, it must be time to have it removed.
 
I was sure they couldn't have done this much damage in five, so I gave them an extra couple.:D
Funny isn't it, it feels as though they have been in for longer.
I guess it's like a tooth ache, a couple of days seem like a lifetime, it must be time to have it removed.

Election night will be like the AFL grand final and Melbourne Cup day all at once, we should organise a get together.........
 
I guess it's like a tooth ache, a couple of days seem like a lifetime, it must be time to have it removed.
Indeed.

Replacing Kevin Rudd with Julia Gillard was their root canal. It has clearly failed and the infection has rapidly spread.
 
The whole parliament seems to have descended into this paltry, tawdry exchange of viciousness.
It is up to the Prime Minister to get over herself and move the discourse to a discussion of what will best advantage Australia in an ever more depressing climate.

Indeed it is.
Fat chance of the PM actually doing so though.
Far from wanting to advantage Australia, Gillard and her poxy government have done one stupid thing after another to disadvantage our great country.
When Gillard deposed Rudd I really thought she might bring some common sense and responsibility to the Labor Party by dismantling some of Rudd’s ridiculous policies and abandoning some of his grandiose plans. But the damn fool has done the opposite.
Whitlam and Rudd were the worst two PM’s this country has ever had......until Gillard took over. Bad as they were, Whitlam and Rudd didn’t even come close to matching Gillard for stupidity, arrogance, cowardice, dishonesty, nastiness, lack of moral fibre, and downright incompetence.
She has to go.
 
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