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Nice idea, but ..4 Corners, not going to happen.
Nice idea, but ..4 Corners, not going to happen.I reckon......................this could bring down the Govt before too long.
It just takes 4 Corners or 60 Minutes to run with it and it's all over, they will be working on it now I would think.
Regardless of how you feel an Abbott Coalition government will perform, you have at least accepted it as a likely prospect and thus given a verdict on Gillard Labor.The real tragedy of course is the sensitive souls that will be tipped into that same situation if it becomes reality
ungulate
http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/the-price-of-power.htmlseven_tech writes...
He is a dangerous man for this country with that attitude.
panther45
seven_tech writes...
He is a dangerous man for this country with that attitude.
Sure is. People are beginning to wake up to this.
zzzyz36
When people compare the cost of the NBN to other projects why don't they consider that it will benefit their entire country (22 million people) while other billion dollar projects will generally only service 10's or maybe 100's of thousands of people.
i.e. How does the cost per user compare to a big road project? A big road project that has no obvious accounting return and services maybe a few hundred unique visitors a year.
Mud Guts
seven_tech writes...
The man honestly cannot comprehend he is EVER wrong. He's been contradicted by MULTIPLE Coalition MP's for weeks on Carbon Tax, NBN, Asylum Seekers, you name it. But he'd NEVER back down.
He is a dangerous man for this country with that attitude.
This is the best that the Coalition can offer. How he manages to stay leader is beyond me.
All I can hope for is that prior to the election, the public support isn't there and the knives come out and that's the end of him.
Either way I suspect should Labor win again, that's the end of Tony Abbott.
I was just reading a thread (You know, the one that Conroy mentioned the other day, "the NBN and dealing with the FUD" over on Whirlpool.
And a couple of quotes from Whirlpool posters...subject is the NBN - FUD.
The ABC's Barry Cassidy doesn't think so.On the other hand, lefties are mysteriously silent on Gillard and certain AWU issues. She told the lie of lies over carbon tax, went ahead and legislated even though opinion polls clearly showed the majority of voters did NOT want it and then danced with joy in parliament. Shameful in a democracy, imo.
BARRIE CASSIDY: If what’s driving you is the policy that you took to the last election, what about the carbon tax? There’d be no carbon tax; that was disposable
CHRIS BOWEN: Well Barrie this is a conscience vote. In the conscience vote I've weighed up the feedback in my electorate, I've weighed up on all people who have spoken to me on both sides of the issue and I've come to that view.
BARRIE CASSIDY: But if you take that view that you’ll only ever adopt a policy that went to the last election, you‘ll never change. You’ll never change a policy on anything.
CHRIS BOWEN: Well Barrie, the Labor Party's views that we need action on carbon has been known for many, many years now. We took a policy of pricing carbon to various elections, as has the Liberal Party from time to time.
What has Abbott actually done wrong?...
The ABC's Barry Cassidy doesn't think so.
CHRIS BOWEN: Well Barrie, the Labor Party's views that we need action on carbon has been known for many, many years now. We took a policy of pricing carbon to various elections, as has the Liberal Party from time to time.
http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2012/s3565950.htm
It’s some of the things he says he will do that annoy me and I think many other swing voters.
Like cancelling the NBN. It is all too rare these days for any government to fund big infrastructure projects. They just don’t look beyond their 3 year term and provide for the long term.
Here is something worthwhile that most people support, and Abbott says he will stop it. Why ? I guess so he has the funds to throw at his ridiculous 6 month paid maternity leave scheme.
Ferret, I don't like everything the libs have on offer including the paid maternity leave scheme. I am concerned with the cost of NBN and wonder if it will be outdated before
However, we only have the choice of two major parties. So it's a case of continue on with no working border policy, a carbon tax the majority don't want and is likely to bite much harder yet and spiralling debt with a ceiling of around $300 billion. And that's for starters.
The coalition still offer a better, granted not perfect, alternative, imo.
The coalition still offer a better, granted not perfect, alternative, imo.
That would be Malcolm.I live in hope of a better leader coming out of left field.
What are the left so scared about Abbott? Why are they soooo desperate to be rid of him?
Is it because he is a real threat to their carbon tax, non-border policies and runaway debt? Is it because they fear he will repeal the legislation the majority don't want?
It seems the left have gone out of their way to denigrate Abbott and blame him for most of Gillard's stuff-ups. I find it difficult to comprehend why this viscous attack on someone who is not PM and who doesn't have serious questions to answer over his past...
On the other hand, lefties are mysteriously silent on Gillard and certain AWU issues. She told the lie of lies over carbon tax, went ahead and legislated even though opinion polls clearly showed the majority of voters did NOT want it and then danced with joy in parliament. Shameful in a democracy, imo.
What has Abbott actually done wrong?...
I would largely agree, but a bit more polish in his politics wouldn't go astray.Like him or hate him, he is the best person for the job at hand. Time after time Labor have tried to prove his stance on issues wrong and ended up with egg on their faces. So then they started the "negative Tony" chant, that has backfired as proven by the polls.
Actually now a lot of people are using the negativity chant as an excuse for their failings, which again reflects badly on the government.
When you consider the amount of poor press and mud slinging Abbott gets, I think his ratings are quite good.
If the reporters hounded Gillard and Conroy the same way, the unions would put the pressure on the reporters to back off.
I think Abbott would be stupid to start changing his staregy untill we are well and truly into an election campaign.
Gillard is proving one thing, she is capable of doing and saying anything, as long as it achieves the desired result.
Fighting people without morals, principles and honesty is really hard, that's why Turnbul has so much trouble, he thinks Julia will play fair.LOL
Here is something worthwhile that most people support, and Abbott says he will stop it. Why ? I guess so he has the funds to throw at his ridiculous 6 month paid maternity leave scheme.
I would largely agree, but a bit more polish in his politics wouldn't go astray.
That comment sums up the thread title magnificently.Just to bring you up to speed and add a bit of political reality into this Fantasy thread.
That comment sums up the thread title magnificently.
Just to bring you up to speed and add a bit of political reality into this Fantasy thread.
The Noalition now supports the NBN and will NOT scrap it, however they will try and "renegotiate existing contracts where possible" and try to switch to fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) rather than (FTTH) fibre-to-the-home.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/br...rap-nbn-turnbull/story-e6frf7kf-1226412903973
You're wise to get them in while you can.Hurrah.
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