The Gillard Government

[sptrawler]

But Julia claims that their new policy of going back to Nauru & PNG is different to the Libs policy.

How dumb does she think the electorate is?

Just reinforces the view she has the hide of a rhino and lacks the character to stand up and say she was wrong. Certainly takes the cake in arrogance stakes.

 

[sptrawler]

How people can keep harping on, Abbott hasn't a clue, when he keeps rubbing the governments nose in it is beyond me.
It will be interesting to see if the news reports give Abbott credit for being correct in his assesment of the action required.
Also lets see if they pay out on Gillard for being so stuborn and so wrong for so long!!!!!!

Obviously the papers don't want to say it as it is, another labor stuff up.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/po...erts-asylum-seeker-report-20120813-24417.html

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/14540535/gillard-backs-nauru-asylum-plan/

Sending in the storm troopers last year must have frightened the $hit out of the newspapers.
Why don't the papers say the experts back Abbotts stance, obviously scared to death.

I loved the SMH headline Gillard saying we are over it, what over being a stuborn so and so.

 

[Julia]

Well that's great, shows Tony's not negative, just stating facts. Gillard should start listening instead of talking, is there any wonder poor old Bowen looks ill.

I feel for Chris Bowen. He wanted to revert to using Nauru some time ago but was blocked by Gillard et al.
He had to front "7.30" this evening and managed to do so articulately and pretty honestly.

Has anyone heard if they plan to have TPVs? I understand that was an important part of the system that worked previously.

I think they have recomended that asylum seekers can't bring relatives over.

Yes: they have essentially recommended the spirit of the TPVs without actually using that name.

Mr Morrison encouraged Labor to ''get to work'' on reopening the asylum seeker centres on Nauru and Manus Island.

The Coalition frontbencher said the Houston report endorsed the spirit of temporary protection visas and supported the Howard government view that family reunions were a pull factor.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/po...eker-report-20120813-24417.html#ixzz23QP6ZDnM

Why don't the papers say the experts back Abbotts stance, obviously scared to death.

They don't need to. It's absolutely obvious and a complete humiliation for Gillard.

I can't stop smiling at how the Greens will be feeling.
Perhaps this will be the start of their irrelevance.

 

[drsmith]

I feel for Chris Bowen. He wanted to revert to using Nauru some time ago but was blocked by Gillard et al.

On the ABC's website there was an image of Julia Gillard and Chris Bowen while Julia gillard was speaking. It's gone now, but in it Chris Bowen didn't look very happy.

It's absolutely obvious and a complete humiliation for Gillard.

And vindication for TA's stance.

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As for Labor's so-called recent poll revival,



http://essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport

 

[Julia]

And vindication for TA's stance.

Yes, absolutely.
You were quite right when, some months ago, you insisted he should not budge.

 

[IFocus]

But Julia claims that their new policy of going back to Nauru & PNG is different to the Libs policy.

How dumb does she think the electorate is?

Actually there are differences that the committee recommended such as no advantage to boat people over those sitting in camps waiting for placement and relatives to only come through normal immigration not automatic selection.

Also the committee recommended seeking a regional solution along the lines of the Malaysia deal but with tighter controls over asylum seeker rights and protections none of which I believe are Coalition policy.

Interesting such a union driven, left wing, Fabians Labor party looking to adopt an ultra ring wing policy.

 

[drsmith]

Interesting such a union driven, left wing, Fabians Labor party looking to adopt an ultra ring wing policy.

Labor hasn't adopted anything. It's been forced down Labor's throat.

Perhaps Labor should outsource governing more often.

 

[moXJO]

Interesting such a union driven, left wing, Fabians Labor party looking to adopt an ultra ring wing policy.

You mean yet another thing they have had to back flip on.

 

[sptrawler]

Actually there are differences that the committee recommended such as no advantage to boat people over those sitting in camps waiting for placement and relatives to only come through normal immigration not automatic selection.

Also the committee recommended seeking a regional solution along the lines of the Malaysia deal but with tighter controls over asylum seeker rights and protections none of which I believe are Coalition policy.

Interesting such a union driven, left wing, Fabians Labor party looking to adopt an ultra ring wing policy.

Yep there is a million ways of saying another **** up, without saying it. LOL,LOL

 

[dutchie]

The incompetence continues..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_hesFOuUo3o#t=0s

 

[drsmith]

And now for Julia Gillard, the ultimate humiliation.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard has phoned the President of Nauru and the Prime Minister of Papua New Guinea to formally request re-opening twin asylum-seeker processing centres on both the Pacific island nations.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/gillard-calls-for-naurus-help-20120814-245h3.html

If she goes into the kitchen of what's left of the house of Labor, I suspect she will find both the knife block and the Redheads missing.

 

[MrBurns]

I'm about to order the party pies and the champers for election night.

I hope Gingerella hasn't scurried away by then to avoid the consequences of her actions.

 

[drsmith]

I'm about to order the party pies and the champers for election night.

I hope Gingerella hasn't scurried away by then to avoid the consequences of her actions.

Her party will slaughter her well before then, torch her political corpse and scatter the ashes in a far, far away palce.

She has brought her party to the brink of ruin.

 

[MrBurns]

Her party will slaughter her well before then, torch her political corpse and scatter the ashes in a far, far away palce.

She has brought her party to the brink of ruin.

And she deserves all that and more................

 

[Logique]

Labor hasn't adopted anything. It's been forced down Labor's throat.
Perhaps Labor should outsource governing more often.

True, and above all, exasperating. They just don't get it. Admitting you were wrong at least earns respect, that they can't bring themselves to it, goes to fitness to govern. To lead a nation, you must leave tribalism behind.

I don't place all the blame at the PM's feet. It's been a team effort by Labor. Anyway the CVs will say: "..Minister from-to..", "..PM from-to..", they'll move on. Always a safe place to fall if you're plugged in to the right networks. And the PM very much is. Kevin Rudd knows it.

 

[Julia]

True, and above all, exasperating. They just don't get it. Admitting you were wrong at least earns respect, that they can't bring themselves to it, goes to fitness to govern. To lead a nation, you must leave tribalism behind.

I'm wondering how the electorate will view all this. Might they in fact see it as an admission of being wrong and a preparedness to totally change tack? It was, after all, Kevin Rudd who dismantled the Pacific Solution.
Might be just another thing to add in the list of stuff for which Kev is to blame, thus minimising the fallout for Ms Gillard. Or perhaps the voters have seen enough of Labor's stuff ups to just not care about who to blame other than just the party itself.

I don't know. The next poll will be interesting.

Must be the ultimate humiliation for Ms Gillard to have to phone the leaders of Nauru and PNG.

Ultimately, perhaps the Greens will benefit from this as disaffected Labor voters, against any form of offshore processing, leave Labor.

 

[drsmith]

Not much fire in Julia Gillard's voice in Parliament today.

She's just parroting out her non-answers.

http://www.aph.gov.au/News_and_Events/LiveMediaPlayer?vID={853C649A-6FA7-4E44-A970-7D5F6C9F8FDE}&type=1&accept=true

 

[white_goodman]

I'm wondering how the electorate will view all this. Might they in fact see it as an admission of being wrong and a preparedness to totally change tack? It was, after all, Kevin Rudd who dismantled the Pacific Solution.
Might be just another thing to add in the list of stuff for which Kev is to blame, thus minimising the fallout for Ms Gillard. Or perhaps the voters have seen enough of Labor's stuff ups to just not care about who to blame other than just the party itself.

I don't know. The next poll will be interesting.

Must be the ultimate humiliation for Ms Gillard to have to phone the leaders of Nauru and PNG.

Ultimately, perhaps the Greens will benefit from this as disaffected Labor voters, against any form of offshore processing, leave Labor.

i think its a false idea that labors loss equals the greens gain.. theres plenty of labor supporters that should never support those radicals. Id see more go to independents, smaller partys and the LNP

id love to see more go to the lib dems

then again its all speculation, LNP sitting at $1.25 to win it, i cant see that price blowing

 

[Logique]

I'm wondering how the electorate will view all this.....Or perhaps the voters have seen enough of Labor's stuff ups to just not care about who to blame other than just the party itself..

Probably this Julia. I'd say the electorate are too far gone now, and every power bill reminds them. This is what Australia has come to, our federal governance is, to use the vernacular, and with apologies to that nation, a "Greek Tragedy".

 

[white_goodman]

ill make sure i post stuff like this on my FB leading up to the election to convince all my soft minded female friends

Gillard really does have a flexibility of conviction doesnt she