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So Bob Carr is FM today.
Will he be tomorrow?
Will he be tomorrow?
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Julia
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Stephen Smith also has plenty of reason to feel miffed. Was he amongst the Gillard supporters in the ballot with Rudd? I think he was, and if so he will hardly be feeling his loyalty was being rewarded.
McClelland is taking today to discuss his relegation to the back bench with his family.
Hopefully he'll be sufficiently annoyed to resign and cause a by-election.
I wonder how the rest of the 'team' will feel about Bob Carr being parachuted in for FM?
Not great, I suspect.
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Stephen Smith (now known as SS in defence) probably wanted to stay there and achieve something. They have had too many ministers on this portfolio to put another one in charge.
With McClelland, good to see Gillard demoting someone for a change, shows she is going to be tougher.
Putting Bob Carr as foreign minister does appear to show her lack of faith in some of her front bench though. At least he is a cleanskin.
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Bob Carr seems like a nice bloke compared with the rest of that crummy bunch.
But she cant help telling fibs can she, big ones small ones it's all the same no carbon tax, you're ok Kevin etc etc I havent spoken to Bob Carr, the lies just keep rolling out.
But she cant help telling fibs can she, big ones small ones it's all the same no carbon tax, you're ok Kevin etc etc I havent spoken to Bob Carr, the lies just keep rolling out.
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Yes I think it was about stability there, 3 Ministers in 4 years or something similar, and a possible perceived slight by the dept.
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**Off-topic**
I know that this is off topic, but have a look at some of the posters that are going up on Sydney Uni/Tafe campuses.
I snapped this one off this afternoon....
I know that this is off topic, but have a look at some of the posters that are going up on Sydney Uni/Tafe campuses.
I snapped this one off this afternoon....
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It looks like McClelland will hang about hoping to see Rudd back again and then he will be rewarded with a Ministry. I am not sure how he will go if there is another contender to challange Gillard.
Yes, with Carr now in, I would say there will be plenty of trouble for Miss Gillard.
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I think she's not only stuffed it for Labor, no one will vote for a woman as PM again for eons.
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Or better still he might resign from the labor party and sit on the cross benches as an independent and take his revenge by blocking supply...
Oh well, we can only hope...
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Welcome back Mr Burns. You have been gone for 28 months, and the lack your insightful contributions has been the forum's loss.
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Many thanks Calliope back by the good grace of Joe and glad the be here, I promise not to be good
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McClelland has publicly stated that he fully expected the demotion, therefore he will be happy enough to serve from there. Is it impossible for conservatives to take that at face value????Or better still he might resign from the labor party and sit on the cross benches as an independent and take his revenge by blocking supply...
Oh well, we can only hope...
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Fair comment, Eager. I suppose when he joined Team Rudd he would have done so in the knowledge that he was already a bit on the outer with the PM, and his demotion was more or less expected.
I quite admire those people who (however misguidedly) threw their lot in with Rudd.
They must have known they'd not be on the winning side, but were still prepared to do themselves in as far as Gillard was concerned.
Bob Carr will probably make a pretty good Foreign Minister. I can't help contrasting him with Julia Gillard: the urbane, beautifully voiced and articulately spoken, quite cultured Carr against the Strine speaking roughie.
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I've finally woken up to what Mark Arbib meant when he resigned saying not just the usual cliched stuff about wanting to spend more time with his family (how tired is that!), but then saying that he was resigning in the hope it would help Labor heal.
No one seemed to know what he meant by this latter remark.
Obviously, the plan all along was to recruit Bob Carr into the Senate so he could from there be Foreign Minister. Mark Arbib has been the patsy who has given up his job in order to create the vacancy for Carr to take and thus facilitate the greater plan for Labor.
It all makes sense now.
No one seemed to know what he meant by this latter remark.
Obviously, the plan all along was to recruit Bob Carr into the Senate so he could from there be Foreign Minister. Mark Arbib has been the patsy who has given up his job in order to create the vacancy for Carr to take and thus facilitate the greater plan for Labor.
It all makes sense now.
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It does, politics is rubbish.
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Welcome back Burnsie, I trust the gaolers in Zimbabwe showed some kindness to you.
Here in Oz with the Government it's same old, same old.
gg
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Many thanks Calliope back by the good grace of Joe and glad the be here, I promise not to be good
Oh you have been missed all right.
like we didn't have enough posters spewing extremist right wing views.
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Good to see familiar faces again, thanks for the welcome GG, I was whipped a little but I quite liked it
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Oh you have been missed all right.
Well that little problem is easily fixed.
