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Yes, why not Stephen Smith? I am not a fan of many Labor MPs but he is definitely a good one IMO and was (and should be again) a very capapble Foreign Minister.
 
Radio National's Breakfast program this morning had a discussion about who should be Foreign Minister with Bruce Haigh and Hugh White. Neither of them were impressed with Stephen Smith in the position and think he'd be better left in Defence where he's doing a pretty good job.

I like Stephen Smith with his calm demeanour, politeness but perhaps he doesn't quite have the strength of personality to engage in the pretty heavy international negotiations often required for the position? I don't know.

They agreed that Bob Carr would have been good but thought the politics of parachuting him in over existing cabinet members would have created more mayhem.
Anyway, it's not on, apparently.

I don't know how much weight should be given to these two commentators. I've always had respect for Hugh White but don't know much about Mr Haigh.
One of them suggested Penny Wong could be an effective Foreign Minister.
Any views on this? It struck me as pretty 'out there'.
 

It does hit you at first but actually it is a good idea. She's now the minister for finance and deregulation which could be done by someone else and as foreign minister she's not going to be the show off the Rudd was.

Defence needs Stephen Smith as it has been mismanaged for a very long time and he is doing a lot to clean it up. Bob Carr is all "I look intelligent" but he is mostly bluster in my opinion.
 
Julia said:
They agreed that Bob Carr would have been good but thought the politics of parachuting him in over existing cabinet members would have created more mayhem.
Anyway, it's not on, apparently.
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Gillard's new assertiveness is a fizzer.

Any views on this? It struck me as pretty 'out there'.
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Wong? Does she speak Mandarin? She is quite fluent on gay marriage. She could be a big hit in diplomatic circles. She would certainly have a rapport with Hilary Clinton
 
The reason the Labor govt. can't get its message across is because:-

1. Most of their policies turn to cr@p.
2. They spend a lot of time spinning 1.
3. They spend a lot of time blaming Tony for all their self inflicted problems.
4. They spend a lot of time saying how bad Tony will be as a Prime Minister (although they never back up this mantra with any facts).
 
If they were going to resurrect Carr for Foreign Affairs and he knocked it back what about Mark Latham - he would put all those "foreigners" in their place!

Can you imagine him shaking hands with all those dignitaries
 

dutchie
I think you have summed it up.
I would like to add a couple.
3a They blame Tony for their next problem.(the one that has not happened yet)
3b They use the second sentence of any, and all explanations, of all topics, blaming Tony. It is either a virus or a brainwash!!!! but they must be s##t scared of him getting into power and finding out the correct bottom line of debt, and the correct unemployment figures.
joea
 
Julia said:
...One of them suggested Penny Wong could be an effective Foreign Minister. Any views on this? It struck me as pretty 'out there'.
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Young baby there, so she wouldn't like the travel. Apart from that, I like the idea.
 
dutchie said:
If they were going to resurrect Carr for Foreign Affairs and he knocked it back what about Mark Latham - he would put all those "foreigners" in their place!

Can you imagine him shaking hands with all those dignitaries
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It wont be long before the slimy, slippery, lying Gillard will be caught out misleading parliament.




http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...er-who-never-was/story-e6frg75f-1226286606441
 
Bob Carr is a huge Americophile.

He would have saved us a packet on travel expenses - Washington, New York, LA, Yellowstone, Yosemite, Washington, New York, LA....in a closed loop.
 
Good grief! Bob Carr is to be Foreign Minister afterall, just been announced, I am gobsmacked
 
Miss Hale said:
Good grief! Bob Carr is to be Foreign Minister afterall, just been announced, I am gobsmacked
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Well I reckon our Julia will help consume an expensive bottle of red tonight.

She played "mind games " with the media and won.

joea
 
Miss Hale said:
Good grief! Bob Carr is to be Foreign Minister afterall, just been announced, I am gobsmacked
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I am too!
The press got it wrong...Gillard showed she had control but who leaked the "partial story". Is someone is still out to get her within the Cabinet? and Rudd can't be blamed. Also,why did she deny it? Panic?

Gee she must be wondering who the new "bastard" is... I feel a bit sorry for her.
 
Probably just easier to just appoint Carr to Senate/Foreign Minister than have the Opposition pursue the PM for misleading Parliament, and/or saying falsehoods.

I'll tell you who may be feeling nervous right now - Peter Garrett, Member for Kingsford Smith. Not only Kristina Keneally, but now Bob Carr, both potentially eyeing off that safe Reps seat - it's hard to be PM from the Senate. Cheryl and Maxine are waiting for you Peter.

Also possibly feeling a little miffed, the ACTU and Bill Shorten, who may have thought it would all fall into their laps.

Julia Gillard might be turning into a leader after all.
 
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